Klymit KSB 20 Down Sleeping Bag Discussions | Drop

Klymit KSB 20 Down Sleeping Bag

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Jan 12, 2017

Has anyone directly compared this to the Kelty Cosmic 20? Seems like they're both around the same price +/- a few bucks and the Kelty sets a solid standard for a lot of bag at the price point.

Jan 14, 2017

brewmeisterAt one point Kelty still had the edge because they were spec'ing better quality down, but at least as of 2016 they cheapened it a little in both fill power and feather content, so I think these two bags are very comparable now, slight differences in construction.

Jan 14, 2017

StepbystepThanks for the info, STS. Which would you consider to be a better purchase, if price is assumed equal for both?

Jan 14, 2017

brewmeisterThe Cosmic has more durable fabric and a little more room, but because of that it gains several ounces. I've not laid in the Klymit but I know that I don't care for stretch bags like Montbell's models, as nice as they are, and the Klymit looks tighter to me. It does have a better looking neck baffle. Kelty did change to dry down if that matters to you (not a very important feature in my opinion). I haven't heard anything about Klymit's warranty for their bags, but they say lifetime and they obviously have excellent service for folks with their pads...Kelty is also stand up and will always take care of you.

Mar 19, 2017

StepbystepAn honest, fair and experienced opinion from someone on MD that presents an objective case for multiple products and not just the one dropping? WHOA

Mar 19, 2017

m0arpheusConcur, I picked up Klymit and I am absolutely happy with it, too.

Mar 19, 2017

brewmeisterDo you think at this price it's worth it? I mostly want a new bag for bicycle touring. I'm not a massive weight weenie so I don't really care about that aspect. I care most about how quickly the bag dries and the bag having a bit of room for me to move around in.

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Mar 19, 2017

m0arpheusHaha...thank you. Hey, nobody likes to buy something that doesn't work for them and buying online without return options is a little dicey sometimes. I'll help when I can!

Mar 19, 2017

StepbystepI'm torn between the Kylmit and the Kelty as well. The kelty is available online for $159.99 right now, should I just try and wait for it to go on sale? I like the fact that it probably dries a little bit faster and has tougher material so it won't rip as easily. I tend to fuck up my gear. I'm not in a massive rush at all to get the bag. My ex stole my touring bike so I have to wait until the divorce is over to go camping again using that bike...so I have some time to wait for better deals.

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Mar 19, 2017

m0arpheusSure. You can definitely go lighter or less bulky but these are solid and the MD price is great. The Sierra Designs Zissou Plus that just dropped a week ago was a stellar deal and of the three mentioned in these comments I'd say that one would top the list. Maybe they'll run it again if you're not in a hurry. Have you even considered quilts? Sure can save a lot of weight and bulk, which would be great for the bike, and the prices aren't too bad. For fast drying, a synthetic model would be ideal and you can get ul fabrics with top quality Climashield Apex insulation for $180 to $220 from Enlightened Equipment, Nunatak, Loco Libre. Mountain Laurel Designs also has some but they are more expensive and fewer sizing options. The Apex combined with light fabrics is a real winner for moderate temps. Below freezing they will get a bit bulky and that's a good time to switch over to down instead.

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Mar 19, 2017

StepbystepWhoa, thanks for the recommendations! I know a bit about nunatak and like their bags but haven't heard of other brands you mentioned. I was a little miffed I missed out on the sierra designs one...I wanted that bag for a hot minute and just missed the drop. Any recommendations for quilts? I've definitely thought about going the quilt route too. On my last tour, which went through Scotland, I was SO weighed down on my bike. In total, I had about 50lbs of shit on my bike with everything I thought I needed (it was my first "real" bike tour) and I packed everything in my life essentially. My dad's giant sleeping bag from 1981/82 weighs about 5 lbs by itself and does not stuff down at all literally. The thing is fucking massive.

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Mar 19, 2017

m0arpheusFor the drop price, absolutely...the price to performance ratio was right in my court.
Enlightened Equipment has a solid following in Reddit's Ultralight area and I may pick up one of their quits down the line, too.

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Mar 19, 2017

m0arpheusIf you go synthetic, I would recommend the Nunatak over the others because it has a couple of nice features like the side drawcord and offset foot cinch so that it eliminates drafts when you don't want them, without having to stuff a sock or something down there...nice Pertex fabric, too, if you choose, and he does full customization for sizing which is awesome. Just got a 40F from him and love it. Nothing wrong with the other companies' versions, though. If you go with down, I would look at UGQ or Nunatak because of their fabrics and they both use more down per temperature rating, plus will let you overstuff and customize. Nunatak is a lot pricier for their down models but they do have an off-the-shelf option now for cheaper with minimal sizing options. Loco Libre does a great job and those zig-zag baffles are a great idea for down (no doubt a ton of work for him to dew, though). Enlightened is great, too, just bump down a temp rating if you'll be toward the bottom end of what you want (they use a little less down and won't allow overstuff or other customizations anymore). Below 40F you may want to get a sewn/closed footbox instead of a cinch drawcord but it sure is nice in moderate temps to be able to open up and vent the foot or lay the whole thing out flat like a blanket. The important thing with quilts for colder temps is that you have a good pad that will keep you warm down there, and while you can snug up pretty tightly in most quilts you may still get some drafts once in awhile if you move around a lot (not a big deal if your shelter blocks the wind well but something to consider). Around 20F or so a normal bag is sometimes a better choice but quilts are still doable for sure. I think anything you get now will wow your socks off compared to a giant old 5lb bag!

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Tofu

Mar 20, 2017

brewmeisterMy friend bought the Kelty Cosmic 20, we went camping recently and tried swapping bags, overall very similar. I prefer the stretch baffles on the Klymit because I move around a lot in my sleep, there's a flap with a drawcord that tightens around the top of the torso/neck line to keep the heat in even while moving around.
The Kelty felt just as warm and didn't seem to shed as much down, though it did feel more restricting to me but that's because I move around a lot. My friend kinda prefers the Kelty because he feels like the stretch of the Klymit lets out too much heat but I don't think he knew how to use the drawcord flap to seal it. I will mention that he's had to send his in to get fixed as the zipper got stuck and broke, it took them almost a month for them to fix it and send it back.

gdisalvo

Oct 4, 2017

brewmeisterI own a kelty 20 and a klymit 20. I believe klymit is a tad heavier, but it is humerous how much more lofty and stuffed it is. I consider the Kelty more of a 30 + degree bag while I take the klymit my cold weather bag. The baffles are awesome and it keeps its loft. INO, a much better bag than the Kelty. MUCH better.

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