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Kovea Hydra Dual-Fuel Stove

Kovea Hydra Dual-Fuel Stove

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Is there any benefit to this over an MSR Whisperlite Universal or International? The pricing is very similar and MSR has a great reputation. I've never heard of Kovea but that obviously doesn't mean they don't make a quality product. I'd appreciate any thoughts and insight. Thanks.
Nice to see the Hydra available again. The Hydra is an innovative approach to one of the quietest stoves of its type. I wouldn't call it super light, but if you need the dual fuel (white gas, canister gas) capability, it's worth a look. It's also by far one of the most compact stoves of its class.

One of the things that seems to be true about stoves is that the quieter they are the more you have to protect them from wind. The Hydra is no exception. One needs to use a windscreen that extends no less than 75% up the sides of the pot. In other words, the height of the windscreen, at a minimum, has to be equal to the height of the stove + three quarters of the height of the pot. And that's minimum. More coverage is better, up to the top of the pot.

I have reviewed this stove if anyone were interested: https://sectionhiker.com/the-kovea-hydra-backpacking-stove/

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I have not tried to burn alcohol in this stove. I generally will only try fuels recommended by the manufacturer in a stove. There is an issue of safety. Some materials (gaskets and such) can be degraded by alcohol. Degradation could result in a catastrophic stove failure and a visit to the Emergency Room -- or worse. One should NOT assume that seals that work with petroleum based fuels will automatically work with alcohol fuels. I counsel against experimentation with such unless you're familiar with alcohol resistant material types and equally familiar with what materials are used in a particular stove.

Well, if you're looking for a stove that can operate on both canister gas or liquid petroleum based fuels, I don't think the Milli Joule would meet your needs. The Milli Joule is canister gas only and is a relatively high end stove designed primarily for cold weather use.

If you want a dual fuel option (anister gas or liquid petroleum based fuels), then the Omni Lite Ti is a good options although the Omni Lite is a tad expensive and is a little lower powered than some. The regular Primus Omni fuel is heavier but is less expensive and more powerful.

The Whisperlite Universal at $140 is a good buy, but does not come with a fuel bottle.

Really, when you consider that this drop (of the Hydra) comes with a fuel bottle, I don't think you're going to do better for a stove that can handle both canister gas or liquid petroleum based fuels.

Please offer this on a drop--you have 122 folks interested in this stove.
Available now!
yep, I was the first one to buy!
You have lock picking tools offered daily and now have 95 users requesting this stove so how about offering it again?
Any chance of this drop coming back in the next month or three?
Finally available, after a long anticipated wait!
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Bulk order shipped! The vendor informed us that the group's order was picked up and is on its way to our warehouse in New Jersey. Based on the tracking provided, the order is scheduled to arrive on 1/5.

Expect another update from us on 1/10 or sooner if something comes up.

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Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Kovea Hydra Dual-Fuel Stove and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.

As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will send the bulk shipment to our warehouse in New Jersey where our warehouse team will break it up into individual orders and ship them. The current estimated ship date from our warehouse is 1/5.

We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 1/3.

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Is there anyone experienced with both this and the Kovea Spider?
How would the burner on this compare with the Spider?
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Thanks hikin_jim!
I own the spider, and it is usually my go to stove. I really love it.
I generally hike with one other friend, so I don't need larger pot stands or white gas capabilities. I just wondered whether it was a better burner or more reliable/easier to clean and service?
I like the inverted cannister stand, but it's probably not strictly necessary or worth joining for.

I like your reviews, and appreciate the reply :)
If you've got the Spider and it's working for you, then there's no compelling reason to go to the Hydra. I would not say that it's easier to clean and service. The Hydra has a side mounted jet. I wouldn't say that it's horribly difficult to service, but certainly not easier than the Spider.

I have a kovea stove in my possession and all documents
-no warranty details, web page has no details
-field repair details shows a pair of pliers

so again why buy a stove when you can't get parts or customer service?
go to msr web page you can call them for anything and they are awesome. I broke a msr product and they replaced it and shipped 2-3 days.
Are you going to call korea for support?

field repair tool incomplete and instructions shows pliers. Msr has a small flat lightweight tool that has a V notch to substitute pliers.

anyways people do your research and just because it's on MD doesn't mean it's a great price. Go to REI and see what is comparable and cheaper.

What I would do if I were you is to scroll way down to the last post you made about this...where John Parks, the Kovea USA rep replied very nicely with a ton of information including his personal contact information (his own cell number if I recall?). Sure sounded like he was willing to bend over backwards to help with anything you or other customers need. When was the last time you saw someone from MSR show up to address customer comments and such? For me, that'd be never, as much as I do also love MSR as a company. I think the EDC community has some nice sharpening stones for that axe you're grinding. :)
Look for a post by ODJP , he answered all camshaft questions. camshaft never responded. Do not up vote this. ODJP is John Park from Kovea USA. He literally gave out his cell phone number for anyone who has issues or questions with Kovea. How much more customer service do you need?
DannyMilks can you confirm the weight? Is the 10.9 oz with or without the fuel pump?
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Thank you. I missed that.
No worries. If I'm missing something that basic in one of my reviews, please let me know!