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Weighing 2.1 ounces, the Kovea Supalite Titanium Stove is compact, light, and powerful. This top-mount canister stove features a 4 minute boiling time for 1 liter of water Read More
HikingDawgShipping this anywhere in the States should only cost $3.09 max with USPS First Class so most of the shipping fee is just hidden cost to balance out the sale price.
chugger
Jul 12, 2019
HikingDawgEspecially considering the Soto Amicus I just bought from here shipped for $2.75.
As @ay-ay-ron said: " ... the shipping fee is just hidden cost to balance out the sale price."
Maybe Drop got a better deal on the Soto and was able to offer lower shipping.
And not so good a deal on the Kovea, so they charged higher shipping to make up for it.
Just guessing.
Fans0ngKovea is a hidden gem here in the states. I have their Spider remote canister stove and it is awesome. I have also learned that they make some stoves/components for MSR and other major brands. Kovea is top shelf, buy with confidence.
The 7600 BTU on this is much lower than some other similar stoves (which are over 10,000). Is this a problem? Does it mean it takes longer to boil water?
BTU ratings by companies vary also, depending on how long they test for in terms of whether they do 15 min testing and multiply that by 4 or 30 min testing and multiply it by 2 will change the BTU.
Also depending on the type of gas used in testing also will change BTU. Be careful of BTU ratings as they can be changed based on a lot of variables.
Please understand that Kovea has low BTU ratings because they test with just Butane and not Iso Butane canisters, this is done so that an accurate measurement will be made. Since all the different gas canisters on the market do not have an equal amount of Propane and Iso Butane mix, you can get different results.
There was mention of the SnowPeak Lite Max, its the same stove as this as Kovea manufactures the Lite Max.
At $40 after shipping, I think I'd rather wait for the the Snowpeak LiteMax to go on sale if you must have this style stove. It's a higher btu stove, and I think it's lighter.
You can pick up a Soto Amicus for less than this. It'll be about 1/2 oz heavier, but it should be MUCH better in a breeze.
aturlov: I'm intrigued by the idea of counterfeit BRS-3000Ts. On the one hand, why counterfeit an $11 (retail) stove? A model that itself is a copy of the heavier $30 Fire Maple FMS-300T? As opposed to counterfeiting some $70 MSR offering? On the other hand, it would explain those BRS-3000Ts about two years ago with marginal threads (the ones that mate to the canister) and perhaps our different experiences (yours and mine) versus Jim's and Miguel's with the pot supports. Or maybe the manufacturer, in putting out a cheap little stove, has poor QA/QC and the machining and alloys vary somewhat from batch to batch?
Like any stove, tent or sleeping pad, (1) test it when you receive it and could still return it or get a refund through Amazon / eBay, and (2) retest it at the beginning of every season to remind yourself, in the light of day, how to set it up, that all the tent poles are there, it hasn't mildewed, you've packed the mini-Bic with it, etc. If I just grab a tent in the Spring (or tire chains in the Winter). without testing them first, I really can't count on it working for me 100%.
DavidinKenaiI suspect it's just bare-bones quality manufacturing with little to no QC really although it could be counterfeit, Amazon is full of identical products that differ only in the brand-name sticker on them (I'm looking at one right now in fact) .. so why not also crank out an 11 dollar stove, and realize you'll sell a lot more if you use someone else's brand name ? I guess in this sense it's not a "cheap knock off", it's "another cheap knock off". But it probably is just bad QC.
Great advice on testing out gear as soon as you get it, particularly if it's an online deal with a short return period. I'm actually pondering a -10 quilt, but by the time it arrives we won't be in single digits anymore and although I really, really want a -10 quilt I don't want to wait a year before I can test it :(
@aturlov yes, I was referring to Hikin Jim's experience with it deforming. I have to say, having the support at an angle like that does seem like awkward design. Either way, ultralight or night I just got two new stoves so I think I have to lay off the stoves for a while until I can put these through more paces. I don't want to be "that guy" who has a closet full of unused gear.
ttran946Honestly I'm bound by what the stores near me sell, as shipping in fuel as a hazmat is often double the price of the canister themselves. That said I see MSR and Jetboil most often, on occasion SnowPeak and IIRC there's no subnstantial difference between them.
Great little burner, I got the titanium version while traveling in Australia some 12 years ago. Mine has a problem with the top screw unwinding because of heat expansion.
Great stove. I've been using it off and on for a couple of years now. No problems, lightweight, quick boil times. I just use it for boiling water so I can't speak to simmering but the flame seems stable and adjusts well.