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Lasmex L-85 Headphones

Lasmex L-85 Headphones

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Hi I was wondering what the bass on these headphones sounded like as I am looking for an open back pair of headphones with lots of bass
With a detailed EQ profile applied (see below) and pads swapped to protein leather (standard oval) Brainwavz pads, I've found that the Lasmex L-85 headphones can be transformed into absolutely superb headphones. Though, their presentation is a little less spacious/airy than most open-back headphones.
I recommend installing a free Windows program called Equalizer APO. Then click on the green "+" and select "Graphic equalizer with variable bands". Then simply copy-paste the following customized EQ into the 'Edit text' bar:
GraphicEQ: 30 0; 35 -5; 40 -7.5; 45 -9; 52 -10.5; 60 -11.25; 70 -11.75; 80 -12; 120 -12; 160 -11.75; 200 -11.5; 250 -10.75; 315 -9; 400 -6; 500 -3; 630 -1; 800 0; 1000 -1; 1500 -3; 2200 -5; 4000 -7; 5000 -7; 7000 -7; 8000 -7; 10000 -7; 11000 -7; 13000 -7; 15000 -7; 17000 -7; 19000 -7; 20000 -7
In iOS (iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch), I recommend the Lounge, Treble Reducer, or Pop presets. Please read my older post for more information.
In summary, I highly recommended the Lasmex L-85 as long as you can use an EQ program... and change out their pads.
does this include the mic?
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how is the mic quality? Thanks for replying btw :))
imkzf
I haven't tried it, but if these headphones get another drop again, I'll be sure to post my impressions.
(Seriously though, these headphones are one of the best values in all of audio.)
On amazon (Canada) its less expensive when you take into accoutn the shipping and import taxes so yeah... https://www.amazon.ca/LASMEX-Semi-Open-Headphones-Over-Ear-Microphone/dp/B01MQXWO7X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505265772&sr=8-1&keywords=Lasmex+L-85
Over the past decade, or so, I've owned dozens of sub-$300 headphones. These are my favorite by far. Everyone can read the extensive discussion below, but to summarize:
- The drivers inside are relatively high-quality... they just need to be EQ'd... which turns them into giant killers. (See below for my customized Equalizer APO profile. iOS users, the Treble Reducer, Lounge, or Pop presets are suitable.) - Soundstage, imaging, and clarity is spot-on... with EQ applied, of course. - Exchanging the (mostly on-ear) stock pads with Brainwavz protein leather pads improves comfort and wearing stability. - Build quality is stellar, with smooth metal and high-grade plastics. - The single-sided 1/8" jack makes cable swapping easy.
TL;DL I say with confidence that the Lasmex L-85 is the best-sounding, relatively inexpensive, open-back headphone in the world. But it absolutely must be EQ'd to sound correct. Pad swapping to Brainwavz is recommended.
mattris
I am new to audiophile world and my preference is to have a headphone with decent bass and good sound stage. Can your recommended EQ for this headphone satisfy my needs? I am planning to use it with Sabaj da2/smsl idea. Can you suggest whether using the aforementioned amp increase SQ and soundstage even further? Thanks in advance.
nlarsensmith
Let me welcome you to Audiophilia. You probably won't simply arrive and stay in one place, so prepare yourself for a journey...
I haven't listened to the small, plug-and-play Sabaj DS2 or SMSL Idea. You'd have to read reviews that mentioned their relative SQ and how they present the sound-stage. If you're in the market for a lower-price DAC/amp, I recommend the bigger (but non-battery-draining) FiiO Q1 mkII, which will provide better sound quality than those Sabaj or SMSL units.
Keep in mind... If you decide to get a pair of Lasmex L-85s, you absolutely must be able to configure a detailed EQ profile. Check out my other posts.
Are the headphone a on ear or over ear design
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The stock earpads can easily be replaced with around-ear Brainwavz protein leather pads... or for $20 less, these $5 earpads should work just fine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-Memory-Foam-Earpads-Suitable-For-Many-Other-Large-Over-Ear-Cushion/142484784197
mattris
ohhh thats nice thank you
obligatory "no, they are not as good as any fidelios- despite the likeness"
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Hey mattris, this is dimetime. I got the LASMEX L-85s yesterday and I was going to EQ them using the updated post you told me to check out and I can't seem to find that particular post. I'm new to this site and I'm not sure if I'm overlooking it. Is there any way you could repost your EQ instructions somewhere I can easily find them? Or send them to me somehow? According to your posts about the L-85s, I prefer to use your EQ method. Thank you
I wouldn't use fidelios without EQ either - and even after, the bass distortion makes it a pretty bad headphone. I'd rather use one of these Equalized than an expensive yet inherently bad headphone like the Fidelios.
How might I change the ear cups?
Catman420
Do you mean the earpads? They're easily replaceable. Just pull one side of the earpads to expose the lip that wraps around the plastic frame. Then work the pad to pull it off.
Since they encompass all but the largest of ears, the popular Brainwavz (HM5) protein leather pads are more comfortable than the stock pads. Though, I recommend the Brainwavz angled sheepskin pads, which also improve the solidity and impact of the sound.
TWO SCOOPS OF EQUALIZER REQUIRED
I own two Lasmex L-85 headphones. My impressions:
Build quality is stellar: smooth metal and high-grade plastics used throughout. They have and open-back design, with less sound leakage (out) that most open-back headphones. Comparatively, a fair amount of outside sound is let in.
The L-85 stock earpads' openings are too small to encompass normal-sized ears, so they would be classified as having an on-ear design. Fortunately, the pads are easily replaceable. To improvement comfort and to sound-stage width, I replaced the stock pads with various Brainwavz Earpads.
Unfortunately, the L-85's frequency response is drastically V-shaped, with a wide bass-to-lower-mids hump and too much treble. Using Brainwavz protein leather earpads installed, a FiiO Q1 mkII DAC/amp, and a free Windows program called Equalizer APO, simply copy-paste the following into the 'Edit text' bar of the Graphic Equalizer:
GraphicEQ: 30 0; 35 -5; 40 -7.5; 45 -9; 52 -10.5; 60 -11.25; 70 -11.75; 80 -12; 120 -12; 160 -11.75; 200 -11.5; 250 -10.75; 315 -9; 400 -6; 500 -3; 630 -1; 800 0; 1000 -0.5; 1500 -2; 2200 -4; 4000 -6; 20000 -6
In iOS (iPhone, iPod, iPad), the Pop , Lounge, or Treble Reducer presets are suitable.
Brainwavz Hybrid Earpads improve the airiness of the sound. I configured this profile with them installed:
GraphicEQ: 20 0; 25 -4.25; 32 -7.5; 40 -9.5; 50 -10.75; 60 -11.5; 70 -11.9; 80 -12; 100 -12; 160 -11.75; 200 -11.25; 250 -10; 315 -8; 400 -5; 500 -2.5; 630 -1; 800 0; 1000 -0.75; 1500 -2.25; 2200 -4; 4000 -7; 20000 -7
And finally, on another pair of L-85s (that have less bass and treble than the first headphone), I installed Brainwavz Angled Sheepskin Leather Earpads and configured this profile:
GraphicEQ: 21 0; 25 -3.5; 30 -6; 36 -8; 44 -9.5; 53 -10.25; 65 -10.75; 80 -11; 120 -11; 160 -10.75; 200 -10.25; 250 -9.5; 315 -8; 400 -5; 500 -2.75; 630 -1; 800 0; 1000 -0.75; 1500 -2.25; 2200 -4; 4000 -5; 20000 -5
The driver used in this headphone is likely the one discussed here: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/lasmex-l-85-headphones.817590
In summary, the Lasmex L-85 is a well-constructed, value-conscious headphone with capable drivers. With some initial effort (pad exchanging and customized EQ applied), they can be transformed into an absolutely superb headphone that will compare favorably to more expensive models.
(updated August 21, 2018)
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Have you had any issues with connections inside the cups perhaps? I agree (and we talked too) about the build quality and such, however I believe I've had mine longer than you. I've had my right ear cup intermittently drop out on occasion. Just curios if you've had anything interesting going on or if it's just me.
I find these to be pleasant enough even without an EQ, but it is great to know that my ears can tell a V-shape curve.
ZeypherUndellus
I got mine a few weeks ago. No drop-outs or cable connection issues.
I invite you to try-out my EQ correction for these. Curious to hear your thoughts on what it does to the sound.
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x2?
I really need to know the sound leakage on these, I usually listen to music at school. If everyone can hear what I'm listening to in a quite classroom I won't get them
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Classy
i have actually heard them they do leak a decent amount for sure.
Classy
There open back... if you expect them to not leak you dont know what your doing
I love my $37 superlux 668b with lyxpro $10 has-30 leather replacement pads.Hahaha I'm good! I call them lux-lyx!
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Elsid
Does that split headband work well for you? Doesn't it leave bumps on your head in the middle spots on the edges? I previously had AKG Q701 and the headband screwed up my head pretty bad until I fixed those spikes. Currently looking for a cheaper headphones that would be super comfortable (and don't care as much about sound quality).
dmedvinsky
They don't bother me and are adjustable. Must replace ear pads lyxpro has-30 pads are good. Out of box enexpensive and comfort Philips 2050 on newegg $55. Isk 2010 amazon or spadger. Anything that looks similar to sennhiesers or beyrdynamics. Read reviews verified purchase. Hope this helps. Ps Check ohms. Anything over 32 I would at least get small portable amp to get every thing out of headphone, unless your plugged into something that can drive phones. I have inexpensive Toppping nx1a long battery life for 50 to 250 ohm.
Can anyone with glasses comment on comfort or noise when wearing these over frames?
They look small, do they fit around the ear like the large Sennheisers and AKGs or do they rest on your ears?
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ralphgonz
Fit over the ear on my big ears. Tight fit however
ralphgonz
the pads have a small opening for people with average size ears the they work well as over ears. for large ears they will be on ear... they are comfy to answer the question they are no where near the size of sennheisers i own both the 598 and the hd 650. hope this helps .. these are fun headphones
I dont see a spec for sensitivity other tjan the listed spec SPL: 83 +/- 3 dB but at this sensitivity I would expect then to be dissaointingly soft/ quiet sounding open headphones. Please reply if otherwise.
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yes but the lasmex dont (imo) have the best soundstage, good but not great, imaging was good also. they are for sure decent for the 65$ price point but to much higher and i would skip them. at 65$ they are a very nice headphone. build quality was also pretty nice, i saw no issues other then the one i had with the left side driver. but headband was actually very nice. i would buy these before i would buy say the status audio or something like that. imo status audio is a joke of a company. i have a brand new set sitting here that came with the hinge broken and never had a single bit of contact about it. and compared to the shp9500 and the lasmex it would come down to the type of sound you prefer. these being much more forward and brighter (imo) a little tighter soundstage wise. the shp being a bit warmer and having a better soundstage but a bit less detailed then these.
Socianthman
yes they are 64 omh with SPL: 83 +/- 3 dB yes they are soft open back if your using them powered by mobile phone but when used with a modest amp/dac they wake up and sound very well, i've tried them with my fiio e17 and my xduoo xd-05.
I got mine today and in the short time I've had them on I've been pleasantly surprised. Very good for the price.
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How's that WA-6 doing ya? I've been looking at it and the WA-2 as my second high end tube amp for awhile now.
ZeypherUndellus
I've only had it for about 2 weeks and there'd be only a couple of hours usage so far. I love it though. It's certainly a step up from the Little Dot and Bravo Audio Ocean, which are both quite decent as well. I'm amazed how much volume the little Bravo puts out. I bought the Sophia Princess tube to go with the WA6 and have never heard it with the Chinese rectifier it came with but apparently it's a decent improvement.
got these today and the left side is cutting in and out. sucks. the right side sounds decent. not sure what to do at this point. i sent a message to support.
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Apologies if this had been asked and answered ... read through it and can't find anything. Do this leak sound like hell? I mean as is it suitable for use in office environment?
TIA ...
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Thanks ... actually I just wanna know how bad the leak.
Guess I'll have to look elsewhere for office use or wait for the E-mu to drop again....
SabaDen
I can hear mine from in my bedroom with the door closed at comfortable listening levels. They're just like any other open headphone in this regard.
I guess I'll leave my final honest opinion here for all to see:
These are some great sleeper headphones. Period.
I was expecting garbage. Cheap knockoffs of a headphone that I could not afford to search out, bid/buy, and wait. I also wanted something different. Something that very few others had. (mostly) Everyone has heard of M50s, 770s, K7XX, TH-XX, Brainwavz, even the Fidelios that these are supposed to model.
I've never owned Fidelios and I probably never will. Therefore the statement from Massdrop's site, "the Lasmex L-85 headphones should make fans of the discontinued Philips X1 very happy," means nothing to me. However, for this price and for what they deliver it is astonishing what I have stumbled across.
My ranking scale of preferred headphones (the ones I currently own) are as follows: DT 990, Lasmex L-85, DT 770, K7XX, SHP 9500, ATH-AD900x, NVX 1000, Thinksound ON1, T20RP, ATH-M50x, ATH-AG1 (headset), some others I can't remember right now, HE-350. Why are the L-85's so high up on this list of other great headphones?
Let me start by saying I consider headphones by experience, not by sound. The presentation of these headphones is quite nice for it to be so cheap. Nice box, the included 2-length cables terminate in non-proprietary, metal encased, removable 3.5mm jacks (although sproingy) with quarter inch adapter. The build actually has some metal to it, although I believe the earcup retention system is plastic. Overall, they are smaller than average and are solidly built. The clamping force is not too tight and they have great stock earpads for cheaper headphones.
The sound signature seems a bit v-shaped, with a lot more bass than I was expecting. I made a comparison to the SHP 9500 where the highs practically match but there is a greater emphasis on the bass in the Lasmex. And it's good, clean bass. It's not DT 770 clean, but they're closed back so I can't compare the two directly. Midrange is accurate and female/high pitched male vocalists are a blast on these. They have soundstage and great imaging, so nothing really to complain about there.
So should you spend your money on this? Well, it depends on what you're interested in. The Lasmex were my 11th headphone, so I wanted something different that no one else had that was special to me. However, if you don't already have a pair of 9500 and were trying to decide between the two, get the 9500 because you don't need to go through Massdrop and a few weeks to get those (and they are a bit cheaper, too).
That's the last I'll say. Now to wait for the TH-x00 Ebony to get here.
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ZeypherUndellus
Could you elaborate on your comparison between the Lasmex and dt990, particularly in their treble performance (amount, clarity, etc.)? Thanks again.
mattris
DT 990 has more clarity overall, but many (myself included) think that there is a lot of it. I don't mind it that much. It's a much different story with the lasmex as they have a decent quantity of it like the 990 but their quality is different. Because the midrange is more pronounced, the lasmex seems warmer to me, whereas the 990 seems to be colder.
Also the bass is looser on the lasmex, but I think we knew that the dt series from beyerdynamic tend to have the some of the cleanest bass around.
I do prefer the 990 sound over the lasmex.
Driver is NOT the same as the X1. Impedence is different. Also construction of the earpads are different which makes a substantive difference in sound. Doesn't mean this is not a good buy - just that this is no X1 which are fantastic for the dollar. (I just checked on ebay and a few people paid over $400 for used X1. Crazy!)
MassDropFan
The outside of these Lasmex headphones' earpads are protein leather. The Philips X1 have velour pads. While it's true that a headphone's earpads greatly affect the perceived sound, headphone manufacturers (should) shape the sound with the stock pads in mind. So comparing the sound of these two - based on the outer pad material alone - wouldn't be fair.
Other earpad attributes affect the sound: the type/density/thickness of the internal padding, vent holes, the space inside of the pad, and distance the pad makes the driver sit away from your ear opening.
True though... Given the same power, the lower impedance X1's should be able to reach a louder volume than the Lasmex.
Just got mine today. Very quick first impressions are I wish the he-350 was this decent out of the box but I'm not letting go of the dt 990 so soon. Build quality is exceptional for China and they fit my very large head nicely. Sproingy as hell, non-proprietary cable (standard 3.5mm jack) so you can easily replace the stock cables. I just might pick these over the shp9500 if the 9500 weren't so damn comfortable.
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ZeypherUndellus
I moded mine 350s with these 2 mods. First is put peace of towel paper between drivers and headphone cushions. This should reduce that problematic edgy treble. Second is remove stickers from behind of drivers. For that you need to open them but, its really easy to do. It will give more bass and make sound warmer. But it seems to me that sound is no longer that precise. More about this here: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-hifiman-he-350/talk/530648
Bruno3833
I don't care. After the fitting and connection issues, the HE-350s are dead to me. I did the paper towel technique. I had to open up the drivers in order to see what was wrong with my connections for my cables. They sound ok from my standpoint, and I guess that's why I like the Lasmex better because they are, to me, just better. Better fitting. More comfortable. They sound good for $74. I've spent the entire day listening to my modded 350s, and I'm starting to wish that I had the Lasmex again because I prefer their signature over the 350s.
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Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the Lasmex L-85 Headphones and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
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Review in Chinese
http://www.miui.com/thread-4975251-1-1.html
driver is 50MM neodymium magnet
http://www.dgtle.com/thread-362479-1-1.html
Reviewer say this head phone more suitable for female vocal and the vocal is a bit distance not "on your face / in your head type"
http://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404001156782288288&mod=zwenzhang?comment=1
Reviewer say definitely not for bass head, bass not muddy, there is depth. Sound stage is is decent, it give you live feeling, not too wide. Mid and High is smooth and crisp, not sharp for reviewer ear. This headphone is neutral not colorful Suitable for OST and pop song (i believe is chinese pop song) It might give your suprise when you listen to violin or orchestra
Above review is not done by me, i just translate what i read from above link
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Soooo did they send you a pair of these? Lasmex has a link for YouTube review requests on their website: http://www.lasmex.com/en/web/other.asp?id=31
AndyHXD
interesting.
I haven a headphone which is not this one, but it's called C-45 which is on-ear headphone that I bought from Amazon and built by same company, Lasmex. I did a little research about this company, Laxmex. Apparently they are German company and they don't sell much of their products in US. I made a lot of wired headphones that are over-ear and on-ear, Bluetooth, and monitoring headphone as well. But it is still hard to buy some random product where you cannot find an review for the product what so ever.