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Radomane
17
Jul 16, 2016
Without a proper review of these and no other information, you would have to be stupid to throw your money at them. Send a pair to Zeos though, and I'd jump on these in a heartbeat if he say's they're good.
Xephyroth
238
Aug 18, 2016
Radomane| You would have to be stupid to throw your money at them.
You'd definitely be taking a bit of a gamble. But hey, in order for there to be reviews, somebody either has to buy it, or somebody has to receive a review unit.
| Send a pair to Zeos though, and I'd jump on these in a heartbeat if he says they're good.
Annnd...you just lost a bit of credibility. Zeos' reviews aren't scientifically accurate—his content can be pretty controversial, at times. Like how he claimed the SHP9500 are "amazeballs." That's a very exaggerated claim. I do his enjoy his reviews for his personality and his love for the hobby. But I'd prefer to hear a review from someone of a bit more credibility such as Tyll of InnerFidelity.
Radomane
17
Aug 18, 2016
XephyrothI don't really care about my audiophile "credibility". He makes subjective reviews that I usually agree with, and usually feel safe basing my purchases off his opinions.
Afterman
237
Aug 18, 2016
XephyrothCredibility on Massdrop? At least Zeos will give us a proper review like comparing headphones and sound signature recording plus build quality. Unlike Unbox Therapy who Massdrop gave a HE-350 to review and all he did was try to give reasons why headphones are better than earphones, lol.
Xephyroth
238
Aug 18, 2016
AftermanSound is subject, absolutely. I, personally, don't trust headphone reviews from Austin Evans, Unbox Therapy, MKBHD, etc. They cater to the general tech audience—not to specific niche audiences. I'd rather LinusTechTips give me reviews on headphones than the others, any day. But that's because LTT takes their research to a much deeper level than the others.
Zeos is definitely a better source of info compared to Unbox Therapy. Zeos is an enthusiast hobbyist, and once again, I watch his videos, too. That being said, I take what he says with a grain of salt. But I've still bought certain products based on his recommendation—just not *solely* his recommendation. He's not some sort of headphone god overlord. He's a dude with ears who speaks his mind—whether or not everybody else agrees with it.
My point here is that I would not "jump on [purchasing anything] in a heartbeat" based on anything Zeos or anybody else says. I'd do my own research, find other reviews, etc. I am the master of skepticism. For example, the ATH-M50X have been exaggeratedly hyped. I've never owned a pair, and I probably never will because I'm educated on the product, and it's just not right for me. I don't buy into hype. I buy with skepticism.
lugnut
103
Aug 19, 2016
XephyrothHard to believe nobody has heard these and have any comments about them. Xephyroth, glad to see someone else that is not a sheep. I have nothing against Zeos, I have watched a few of his videos. I however take his comments as with any on the internet, with a grain of salt. He is just a man with two ears, and we all hear different, I have heard some speak as if what he says is 100% fact. When in the end it is just his opinion.
Xephyroth
238
Aug 19, 2016
lugnutI'm really hoping we'll hear something soon from any individuals from the previous drop. It's pretty amazing that so little can be found regarding these cans. They certainly look interesting, but looks can be quite deceiving!
When I enter any hobby, I definitely do so with skepticism. In the past, I've joined the hype train and have been disappointed. As a result, I try to avoid the hype and make my own assessments. I don't want to experience the placebo effect, after all. Zeos' videos are fun to watch, so are all the much bigger tech YouTubers who have delved into headphones. But I often am skeptical of their knowledge because I have a B.S. in Computer Science, I studied music technology and acoustic engineering, and I also have ~8 years of home audio engineering and music production under my belt. That's something a lot of these YouTubers don't have, and sometimes it shows when I catch them saying something misguiding or make exaggerative claims based on some information that they found elsewhere on the internet.
So even if we all have different backgrounds and different ears, I do think everybody should "be skeptical, but learn to listen." Use your doubt to discern the truth!
expontherise
161
Aug 19, 2016
XephyrothI just wanted to clarify if 'Zeos' is Z-reviews?
Xephyroth
238
Aug 19, 2016
expontheriseThat is correct.
nantipaneith
374
Aug 23, 2016
XephyrothI don't consider Tyll from InnerFidelity as having more credibility than any other reviewer, includig Zeos. Perhaps I consider him to have less credibility, as he has a retail outlet where he sells merchandise, and sale strategy might bias the odd review or two.
ZeosPantera
1246
Oct 5, 2016
expontheriseI assume yes darling.
ZeosPantera
1246
Oct 5, 2016
XephyrothCorrect. I have made recommendations that some people just HATE.. I can only speak for myself and with a sample of one it is hard to speak for an entire headphone and all its batches. Had at least two headphones that were absolutely horrendous and were later redeemed with the same model from a different batch.
Just the way it goes. Add my opinion to the pile of opinions and try and find a consensus.
LIBY555
192
Oct 5, 2016
ZeosPanteraDon't listen to this, you are indeed a sort of headphone god overlord. and we WILL jump on [purchasing anything] in a heartbeat based on anything you say. Just keep making videos Zeos, WE LOVE YOU!
LIBY555
192
Oct 6, 2016
RadomaneYes, the same tyll that saying now that the th-900 are a bad sounding headphone, which is crazy. in the end everyone's was his own taste, but at least z reviews doesn't hurt to watch. BTW for their price the 9500 are truly amazing. and that's the opinion of most people, you're a part of the minority that says otherwise, so you can't realy use this as an example for anything.
Annndy
89
Oct 6, 2016
nantipaneithTyll hasn't had the retail store for 6 years. He left Headroom, the store he founded, in 2010 and now reviews headphones for TEN, the publisher of Stereophile and Inner|Fidelity.
nantipaneith
374
Oct 7, 2016
AnnndyHow do you know this?
Annndy
89
Oct 7, 2016
RadomaneHe said it in one of his videos, he wrote about it at InnerFidelity and I know I saw a brief article on it at Headphone.com, but I can't find it at the moment. They also discuss his leaving on head-fi.org. http://www.head-fi.org/t/481612/thanks-tyll-from-headroom
Z3phyrOverEar
17
Oct 9, 2016
ZeosPanteraIs the review coming soon? I think they would fit me perfect,
ZeosPantera
1246
Oct 9, 2016
Z3phyrOverEarNo response yet from the company and it would be a long wait joining here.
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