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loercase
83
Jan 30, 2018
Finally, a monitor for me!
> 1080p
Nooooooooooo
Raiderx
67
Jan 31, 2018
loercaseRight, who the hell needs G sync for 1080p
MrBonk
1
Jan 31, 2018
RaiderxPlenty of people, try playing at 1080p with extreme anti aliasing and watch your performance quickly tank. Plenty of dx9 games when using 8xSGSSAA require a crap ton of performance, you won't be getting anywhere near 144hz with anything but potentially a gtx1080 or better. Later UE3 games in particular are memory bandwidth hogs when forcing AA or even playing at high res. (Ex, A Hat in Time, ShadowComplex remastered, mn9,etc). Even some games that max at 60 require a beast GPU. Metal Gear Rising for example, a GTX 980 over clocked cannot maintain a perfect 60fps at 1080p with only 4xSGSSAA. And there is a big quality difference between 4 and 8x SGSSAA.(do some googling and look at the thread on Guru3d or 3dcenter forums)
And for non dx9 games that means lots of downsampling on top of whatever mediocre AA they offer in game(most post AA and most TAA is garbage quality and requires additional SSAA on top to improve quality or mitigate all the artifacts TAA introduces into the image), again will quickly drain performance.
So who needs 1080p? People who care about image quality, that's who.
jaeun87
133
Feb 2, 2018
MrBonkSeriously. People don't understand that to run at 144fps you're going to need more than a meager GTX 1060. I got a 1440p 144hz screen and almost regret it because my 1070 cannot keep up at all on newer titles. It's pretty much pointless, unless I seriously notch down the detail and I don't think I'll be springing for a 1080 or 1080 Ti anytime soon either...
loercase
83
Feb 3, 2018
jaeun87Massdrop is for enthusiasts. I guarantee most of us looking for a high-end monitor also have modestly high-end equipment to run it on, or are at least aware that they need it.
And to the other guy: you don't need to go so wild on AA when you're at higher resolutions anyway. Jaggies are less noticeable when the pixels are so small. Upgrading to 1440p was absolutely incredible for me over 1080p, I can never go back. All I want now is a higher refresh rate. 4K for the future, but my rig isn't there yet.
jaeun87
133
Feb 3, 2018
loercaseI've yet to see any deals on gaming hardware that are actually "great deals" on MD so I don't make the same assumption about "enthusiasts". There's communities that have way better/unique deals on MD but gaming really isn't one.
geeb
7
Feb 5, 2018
MrBonkfor the same price of this you can buy a 2k 4k monitor and have it at 1080p or 1400p or whatever your card can give you and have plenty of upgrade room. why buy a max out product
Frizle
24
Feb 5, 2018
geebdoes it have 144Hz and G-Sync?
wrswldo
2
Feb 6, 2018
geebYou only get good results doing that on old CRT monitors. LCD displays look worse when displaying at something other than their natural resolution. The lower you go the worse it gets. Some might not notice much of a difference looking at 1440 on a 4K but I think everyone would notice 1080 on a 4K. I notice a difference when running 1080 on my 1440. Some games have a setting to help with this, I think Witcher 3 and BF1 iirc.
wrswldo
2
Feb 6, 2018
jaeun87I'm with you there. I almost regret my 1440p 144hz screen too but since it has g-sync I think it has been an improvement overall. I don't play current games (still chugging along in Fallout 4) and my 980ti manages only about 70fps average on High Detail. I value higher refresh rates over resolution as I feel it helps my motion sickness which occurs even in top down slower paced games like Civ and I feel like I'm on the edge of acceptable minimum average fps.
Otrinh
11
Feb 13, 2018
Frizleit says that in the freakin title. do you speak english?
Frizle
24
Feb 15, 2018
OtrinhIf you would have paid attention to who I was replying to you might take back what you said. What do you speak? Your grammar doesn't look good. Try not make an ass out of yourself so much. You're capable to complete basic tasks like read and write, just get better at them. You were able to read the title so good but you seem to lack basic problem solving skills.
DarknessAngel
43
Feb 16, 2018
wrswldoI notice it as well. Run native res or your degrading the picture. I run a 1440p 34 ultrawide with a 8700k over clocked to 5ghz and 2 970s in sli. Without AA I hit mostly 100 to 150 fps if I max all settings on any game and tone down shadows by 1 notch. I'll be upgrading to the newest Vega top tier card when it releases.
I'm waiting on a 144hz gsync 2k monitor at a decent price point that is an IPS panel. I've used tons of TN and tested buddies VA panels and they are just ugly compared (if you don't use a quality IPS all the time you won't notice the difference and wouldn't be a big deal). VAs tend to ghost even with 144 hz gsync 1ms.
Now 4k is another ballgame. No way to get decent frames without turning down alot of settings and no AA on demanding titles. I'm talking 120 plus fps.
jeremya
82
Feb 19, 2018
DarknessAngelI’m in a similar boat... but I’ve got *ancient* monitors. I’m waiting on this quadfecta to appear:
1. G-sync 2. 144hz 3. 1440p 4. IPS
(Of course, the ultimate would be a monitor that does g-sync *and* FreeSync for max compat, but no mfr out there seems interested in producing one despite the huge win it would be for the market. I’m starting to suspect that nvidia has some kind of “thou shalt not include competing technology” clause in their g-sync license)
xfloggingkylex
23
Feb 20, 2018
jeremyaIt is almost certainly what you suspect, that in order to license the use of g-sync you agree not to use any other form of adaptive sync in the monitor.
nickysticky
3
Feb 22, 2018
jeremya That exists already, the trick is it's pretty pricey and the QC isn't great. I have an Asus, I think Acer makes one too. I believe I paid $750 for it... If I could do it again, I wouldn't worry so much about IPS because the backlight bleed affects pretty much every unit, really hard to find one that has proper quality control. A well made TN or VA panel or whatever else is better than a crappy IPS panel IMO.
jeremya
82
Feb 22, 2018
nickystickyThanks for the data! I‘m sad to hear that. Is it worse than a TN or other cheaper tech?
maybe IPS is a “nice to have“ for some, but maybe what I should be aiming for is microLED or OLED. After all, I’ve gotta keep my wishlist as infeasible and unreasonable as possible (lest I actually spend money on something). Hehe :-)
Djghost1133
22
Mar 11, 2018
loercaseThis.
Platokrates
0
Mar 11, 2018
Frizle"You're capable to complete" and "Your grammar doesn't look good" in the same sentence?
Frizle
24
Apr 2, 2018
PlatokratesThink about it. If you wanted me to write "capable OF" then I would have to change complete to completing. It also isn't in the same sentence lol. Nice try though. If anything the biggest mistake was where I said "Read and write" would have sounded better as "reading and writing" but it still works.
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