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LG 49" or 65" 4K UHD 120Hz Smart LED TV

LG 49" or 65" 4K UHD 120Hz Smart LED TV

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To clarify about the model numbers and so on...the model numbers is lg 49UH6030...THE REASON MOST RETAILERS aren't listing them is because they were holiday models...thats why they seem to be 6150s but they are not. They are 4k and only support hdr content. Hope this helps some.
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Ok, so if this TVs are not real 4k, which one are?
I wanna buy a 4k display. I'm between a monitor or TV. I prefer the TV for the size and price, but also don't wanna buy something that is truly bad. Any recommendations?
P.D: I'm developer, not much into gamming.
mamcx
Monoprice has a 28" true 4K that is usually on sale for $300ish. FYI, I purchased this TV from newegg and wrote a review on it below. It's not a bad piece of kit but I can't speak to the "true 4k" nature of the display. I haven't tried running it as a monitor yet but text in the built in apps is pretty decently crisp.
Best Buy has a 50" 4k TV for $399 with free shipping right now, just ordered it there. Hope you guys figure out that this isn't a good deal before it goes through :(
I just bought this from Newegg for $399 + $20 s/h. Will report back with a review when it arrives.
techwiz
Got my TV in today (probably the only real benefit to living in PA lol) and I have to say, for $400, this TV ain't half bad. The built in software is a little on a sluggish side and while it works well most of the time, it will occasionally slow to a crawl when whatever CPU is in this thing gets bogged down (I found the slowdowns to be mainly related to multi-tasking). Picture wise, I can say that it looks pretty good, but I'm not a professional TV reviewer nor do I have any hardware to validate any of LG's claims, so take this review with a grain of salt. The only other 4k display I have to compare against is a Monoprice 4k which I find has a pretty good picture compared to my Acer GN246HL. I could argue the picture looks a bit better on the monoprice, but that isn't to say the LG looks bad.
The only thing that really got me with regards to the picture quality is that the LG has a bit of light bleed that makes blacks look slightly grey, however it is currently about 1:30pm and very bright outside so I can't speak for the darkest blacks without this massive glare across my screen potentially influencing my opinion. I'll get back to you guys later today when it gets a bit darker outside (I don't have blackout curtains). Also, the display seems to run at a mostly consistent 60Hz on the internal apps, but the stuttering/blanking effect that comes from the TruMotion 120 feature is pretty noticeable on animated or CGI content, I can't say if this is a huge deal breaker yet as it does remove ghosting and motion blur pretty significantly. I'll have to poke around in the settings some more to see if there's an option to turn it off for an apples to apples comparison with my monoprice.
I tested the monitor with some 4k content from the built in YouTube app (which does support native 4k) and some 1080p content from my Plex server via the Plex app you can download from the LG store. 4k cinema content looks pretty good, albeit a little grainy on the finer details at a reasonable viewing distance but nothing that I would have noticed had I not been looking at the display with a critical eye. Motion is hit or miss depending on the style of content. Cinema motion blends smoothly while animated or CGI content feels jittery (was watching some anime that had a frame rate of 24fps). Will have to try playing a game on it, but I suppose the 60fps my PC can push would be enough to eliminate any jitters. TV has a plethora of picture modes and settings, but I did most of my testing on the "standard" preset.
Speakers on the TV sound alright, nothing to write home about, but they are fairly loud which is nice. TV also has a setting to split audio between built in speakers and audio out (optical or otherwise). The TV itself looks pretty nice, relatively thin bezels but the feet look a tad bit pigeon footed, may or may not be an annoyance. But at least it seems to have VESA mount points on the back and the feet are very easy to remove, so that's a plus. I wish the power port were on the same side as the inputs, for whatever reason they're on opposite sides of the device. And finally, the remote is trash. My god is this remote bad. There's no tactile difference between many key buttons so you will find yourself looking at the remote constantly to get your bearings. Fortunately, the TV supports being controlled via a smartphone using an LG app on Android or iOS and it supports basic chromecast like functionality with the internal apps like YouTube, Plex and Netflix. Oh, and damnit LG, who told you onscreen keyboards were good? They're terrible, get that LG app to type stuff as soon as you have the wifi or ethernet hooked up, you can thank me later.
Overall I think I'm pretty satisfied with my purchase. A few nits here and there but for $400 I can't really complain. I think the display looks pretty good and the features are pretty solid. No real issues with the software... yet. I also don't have a cable sub so I can't speak for how well the enhanced guide feature is, I think they call it Channel+ or something. You will definitely want to use your smartphone or a universal remote as an alternative to the included remote.
You can walk into a local Sams club and get better deals than this. Wait for Black Friday it's not far off.
is this only shipping in the us?
Does anyone know if the built in apps support 4k streaming natively?
techwiz
Nothing supports 4K Native.... Netflix 4K is still a downgraded version of 4K but you can watch 4K stuff with the "smart features"
MrPleasan_exe
That's being a bit pedantic IMO, I just want to be able to plug this thing in and view 4k content without needing a 4k source box or chromecast ultra since it does have apps and such. Good to know the apps support 4k, thanks.
Note that this TV isn't a TRUE HDR TV. HDR Pro only supports HDR content, but you dont get the picture benefits of a 10 Bit panel. It's insidious marketing on LG's part
Does this TV have passive 3D capability? (overlaps the two images, works mint with theatre glasses [take apart the theatre glasses and play split-screen multiplayer using the full screen])
Moneigh
no, there are no passive 3d tvs anymore and you have to up to the 8500 for active 3d.
zanzabar
LG's 55UH8500 has passive 3D. Passive 3D TVs are very much a thing still; especially since many people (such as myself) prefer passive over active 3D.
But there was no mention of this particular model having, or not having, 3D, so figured I'd ask. Thank you for clarifying it does not have the capability
Although there cant be a real 4k tv with 120Hz, due to the amazoning amount pixel need to be ptocess, I still want a real 4k tv with 120hz refresh rate. Because I love 4k and high refresh rate. Do you guy know if there is any tv that features it or going to release?
I saw some of you were talking about upscaling algorithm, I think NNEDI3 and waifux2 are the most powerful two, one for almost any kind of video and the other for anime. However, those two are too "expensive" for average user(I thing at least need TTXPs to make it real time). At the same time, the upscale math comes with tv is not too bad compare to some common method; i assume that the manufacturers have done a lot of optimizations. Probably, it is enough for us.
Kice
You probably want to look for a monitor with DisplayPort 1.3 or higher. TVs tend to prefer HDMI because of HDCP, which I don't think DP supports. I could be wrong, tho.
Kice
hello, 120Hz mean to 'TruMotion 120Hz'. TruMotion 120Hz is a technology like frame dubbler.
see bellow link.
https://www.cnet.com/news/fake-refresh-rates-is-your-tv-really-120hz/
Can we get one goddamn TV with display Port? 120hz doesn't mean shit over HDMI 1.4
UPPERCASELETTERS
it is not 120hz input, it is 120hz interpolation. this guy also has hdmi 2.0 since it will do 4k60.
These will probably ship through UPS or FedEx in the US. That being said, as a UPS employee, I wouldn't trust my TV getting shipped through them. We've seen a lot of returns come back through.
Zipanadublecup
You're the second UPS employee who has said to never ship a TV via UPS, FedEx or DHL because of the handling they receive. It's a shame really, but thank you for your honesty.
Thanks again for joining this drop! We have submitted the group's order with the vendor for the LG 49" or 65" 4K UHD 120Hz Smart LED TV and they are working hard to prepare it for shipment.
As soon as the group's order is ready at the vendor's location, they will ship the individual orders directly to you. The current estimated ship date is 10/18.
We will keep the group updated throughout the fulfillment process. You can expect an update from us by the end of the day Pacific Time on 10/18.
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Can anyone confirm if this TV has the "fuzzy math" as mentioned above, I really want true 4k
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Hello, I thought I'd chime in again to clarify my process a bit.
Yes, I have to evaluate lots of these televisions in the store. These are indeed always set to "Vivid" or "Dynamic" picture settings for the customers because they do have to compensate for the over-the-top lighting in our store. But of course I switch them back to a somewhat calibrated setting. On most tv's this is called "Cinema Home/Pro" or "ISF expert" or anything like that. This makes the TV's look dim in the bright store lighting but gives a more honest idea of the picture quality. I wouldn't compare 2 televisions unless I've done some basic calibration on the TV's in question. After 2,5 years of doing this I surely know that this "vivid" setting is just for catching the eye. But, even then, since "vivid" pushes each panel to (or even past) it's limits it does show the shortcomings or strengths of certain panels, even if they don't represent the correct at-home setting.
And yes, after those 2,5 years I've gained some understanding of the tech in televisions. Most brands always throw terms at you that are essentially the same thing with a different execution. Take extended colour panels. Samsung "Nano-crystal colour technology", Sony's "Triluminos", LG's "Colour prime". They all mean they use an extended colour space but they differ slightly in execution. I could go in depth on this, but just know that (apart from slight differences) these are essentially the same. This is all technical jargon that's used to impress a potential buyer.
The refresh-rate of the panel, the colour-space, contrast-ratio. These all amount to the purely technical aspect of the television, the "specs". But more often than not, I see a television that boasts slightly lesser specs than another TV while still looking better than a more highly-specced model. These brands all include their software for image enhancement, and a lot of these are merely used for the "Vivid" setting, quite a lot of them actually DO ENHANCE the image past it's original content. The way Samsung saturates their colours, the almost unrivalled up-scaling of Sony or the sweeping motion enhancement on the newer LG oled models. (But once again, all of these enhancements are turned off in "Game" mode.)
And that's how I evaluate TV's. Sure, I do look at their specs to get the general idea. But then I also use my own eyes to see the effect of this. I can take any customer that walks in, explain the white-sub-pixel in less than a minute. And even some technology illiterate people will then be able to pick these panels out of the bunch. I do not discourage them to buy these, I merely show them the effect of these and let them find the other TV's. Where a salesman just looks at the model with highest specs and highest profit for the store, I tend to take my customers through a comprehensive crash-course and let them find their own TV.
In the end each person has their own preferences for image-quality. Just as there is no definitive "Best headphones" or "Best speakers". They offer, even if in a smaller degree, a personal preference. I'm just here to share my experience with this particular model. It's one the least popular models in our store but that doesn't mean it's immediately a bad television. Just a very budget-oriented choice that is rarely picked up for it's image quality.
I hope this clears up some things. If there's any further questions I'm always excited to share my experiences or answer any questions, so ask away if needed.
DEAVERtheBEAVER
It is faux-k.
Buyer beware: LG has been known to use 'fuzzy math' on their LED TV line, claiming they are 4k TV's; this is not true. I DO NOT KNOW if this series also suffers from the fuzzy math issue, but I thought I'd post this as a just in case. The model series that are specifically called out here are: 6100, 6500, 6800.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3104880/smart-tv/how-lg-uses-fuzzy-math-to-label-some-of-its-lcd-tvs-as-4k.html
FTA: As with any other 4K TV, the panels in these LCD models have 2160 horizontal scan lines with 3840 pixels in each line. The pixels in these LG models, however, are very different from what you’ll find in competing 4K TVs—and that difference has a negative impact on image quality. It’s an issue that flies beneath most consumers' radar because LG doesn’t disclose its departure from conventional standards in its advertising or published specifications.
4K RGB LCD: 11,520 subpixels in groups of red, green, and blue, forming 3840 RGB pixels per row. LG’s 4K RGBW OLED: 15,360 subpixels in groups of red, green, blue, and white, forming 3840 RGBW pixels per row LG’s RGBW LCD: 11,520 subpixels where only some groups have all three color elements. Every fourth red, green, or blue subpixel is replaced by a white subpixel to increase luminance. That still comes out to 3840 pixels per row, but there are only 2880 RGB groups staggered over those 3840 pixels.
abusedduck
To be fair... at the distance most people sit from their TVs, I don't think this would matter much. Their subpixel layout looks pretty sane to me, but I haven't seen them in person to compare. It looks like their using the white pixels to boost the surrounding pixels so the effect would probably look similar to anti-aliasing or image softening (again, haven't seen it in person, just speculating here).
This TV is $499 everyway ...what a great deal Massdrop :)
What are the actual model numbers? 49UH6003 does not appear to be an LG product.
napmaster
49UH6030 and 65UH6030
Crashspeeder
Thanks!
These model numbers aren't real. Massdrop, this is a horrible practice. Fix this or you will lose our trust.
beside the model number, this TV is a real 4k. It said it's upscaling to 4k. However, I don't think the the algorithms of LG is better than madvr or "Sony(joking face)" . I am looking forward to next TV drop.
And also, I saw that bestbuy offer this model (or looks like) only $50 higher.
Just so people know, this is NOT a 120hz tv. It can only do 60hz, but it interpolates the frames to smooth them out. This doesn't even apply to gaming, only videos, netflix etc. Again, NOT a 120hz display, TruMotion is just smoothing of the frames
Hello Everyone, Please check my post in response to Acidose. He mentioned the correct model numbers and I explained why. Cheers.
Sorry MD, but I have bust you on this one for lack of accurate & definitive information. TVs are long term purchases so as a consumer looking for a 65" TV, I need to know exactly what I'm buying here and wouldn't touch this until the correct model number is supplied. Returns will be a real pain so let's get this right first time.
Here are my concerns:
1. Neither model exists on LG's website which leads me to look to indicators..... 2. You say "Just like all 2016 TVs" without stating this (65") is or isn't a 2016 model - more uncertainty 3. It runs Web OS 3, BUT you have a footnote (2) that doesn't exist at the bottom. - Some 2015 models were IIRC touted as being updatable to WEB OS 3 but with "Lite" features - so it could feasibly be a 2015 model or - it could be a low end 2016 that doesn't run all features 4. Isn't the G series (from your description "LG 65UG6003" a 2015 model? We're at H series now (2016) - to further complicate things - you have a H series for the 49" and a G series for the 65", or both model IDs could be completely wrong.... 5. Overall I see 4k TVs discounted all the time.... we need the correct model to know whether this is a good deal
Arrgggh, yer killing me.... can you please confirm the model numbers?
Cheers (& PS Still love ya)
Dingo
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apparently Massdrop couldn't put the real model number which shouldn't be a practice Massdrop be a part of. I hope Massdrop doesn't do this again. If the Manufacture can't display it's true name of the product they shouldn't be allowed to offer a drop. Customers need to know exactly what we are purchasing. Not giving us a model number true to the TV gives us the feeling they trying to pull a fast one on the community. Especially since it was so easy to find out what it was anyway.
Raiderx
I agree with you wholeheartedly. I hope Massdrop makes it their standard that they post the model number of any item which has one, of the product they are selling. Not doing so makes it appear they are trying to sell junk or do a bait and switch.
120 Hz is the same between betwen UHD televisions and monitors, but the larger the screen size, the more dramatic the streaking becomes with games. Typically you want a Motion rate or Refresh Rate of 240 Hz at over 46 inches (which is also why they cost so much more). It looks different between televisions and monitors because of the screen size and the number of pixels you have to pack into an area for the visible eye to discern those differences. Higher refresh rates make it easier for our eye tracking.
120hz? so can be used as gaming monitor?
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There is no 120hz, its only 60hz. The 120hz is LG's TruMotion technology and it just take 60hz and interpolates the frames to make it look smoother in videos and netflix. Its not actually 120hz, and it doesnt apply to games.
jc.denton.unatco
That is incorrect. TruMotion creates interpolated frames to fill in the refresh rate, because the refresh rate is higher than the broadcast rate.
49 or 65? How much is the 65"?
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Actually it is... if you want to buy the 65-inch then at whatever the 49-inch drop ends you just add $450 to the price. Ex: right now the 49-inch is 499.99 => 65-inch 949.99
acidose
AH, Thank you sir!
So can has anyone confirmed if the model number is correct?