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Ray_NC
29
Mar 7, 2018
The photos for this knife don't show a full view of both sides of the blade. Does this knife come with a Massdrop logo?
TravyTrav
54
Mar 7, 2018
Ray_NCI'd sure hope not lol this knife doesn't have a thing to do with Massdrop other than being sold on the Massdrop site
Ray_NCNo, only knives that have a Massdrop logo are massdrop collaboration knives, such as the Ferrum Forge designs made by WE Knives and the perpetua by TJ Scwartz. This is an excellent piece imo made by Lionsteel, an Italian knife company.
Itsraining
78
Mar 8, 2018
Ray_NCI wouldn't buy any knife that had a massdrop branding. I don't like branding to begin with let alone the name of a middle man. Aside from that, I have 4 Lionsteel knives and they're great quality knives.
Omniseed
1972
May 6, 2018
ItsrainingWell between the Falcon, Crux, Gent, Buc, Perpetually, Terzuola CTF, and Zinker Dogtooth, you're missing out on a lot of really excellent knives
Ray_NC
29
May 6, 2018
OmniseedIf I need to pay a few dollars more to get the original unbranded, so be it. If it's a massdrop exclusive, I'll consider them on acase-by-case basis, but so far no really compelling offerings. I hear a lot of other people saying that don't want the massdrop logo either, so another potential issue is: if I ever decide to sell it, would the logo limit resale options I would have? Or lower resale value?
Yeah, if I was the only one that felt this way - ignore me. In fact, ignore me anyway, even though it seems I have a lot of company among those who feel the same way as I do. Look at the bright side, fewer of the logo knives are being sold, maybe the value of yours goes up? :)
Omniseed
1972
May 6, 2018
Ray_NCThe 'original' Crux is a completely different knife that costs a minimum of $600+ dollars and has a wait list because it's a custom.
The 'original' Falcon is also an entirely different knife, even less similar than the Crux and Mordax, and likewise costs four times what the Falcon costs. Or you could get a WE 605, which is also not a Falcon, and also costs twice what the Falcon costs, and is also not free of the maker's branding.
There is no 'original' Gent, unless you consider it a downsized liner lock version of the Crux/Mordax, so that's not even possible.
The Buc is a completely original design with no obvious precursor, again you will not be finding an 'original' version of that design.
The Schwarz Perpetua is another new design, though it looks like a thumbstud mashup of the Benchmade 550 and HK Axis folder. Another knife you aren't going to be able to get without the logo of the company that orchestrated the knife's manufacture and handled a significant portion of the logistics of bringing it to market.
The Terzuola CTF is very similar to previous Terzuola designs, but again, you get either this one, or you get a CRKT gas station quality collaboration (which will have branding, because all companies brand their products) or you will be paying several thousand dollars for a custom from Terzuola that may or may not be as practically good as the WE/Massdrop-made production version. So if you're cool with spending twenty to twenty five times the cost of the Massdrop Terzuola, you can have a high quality Terzuola without Massdrop's branding.
The Zinker Dogtooth is a new design, again there is no 'original' version without branding. Zinker customs will still have branding, Boker's Zinker designs have branding too.
Your expectation is askew because you seem to think that Massdrop is just selling existing knives but with their own logo slapped on.
That is not the case. It is not an accurate reflection of the reality of these knives, or the realities of our consumer goods marketplace. Companies brand their production products, you are jousting at windmills if you think a little tiny 'Massdrop' on the blade ruins these knives.
Lastly, if you are that upset over logos, just remove them yourself. Why endlessly slam doors on your own dong when you can just get some sand paper and polishing supplies and make your knives look however you want?
None of the knives I mentioned are simple Massdrop exclusives, they are knives that would not exist without Massdrop making it so. These are not off-the-shelf knives that would exist anyway, these are extremely well made WE knives with some neat designs that cost as little as half of what any other S35VN WE knife would cost.
Ray_NC
29
May 6, 2018
OmniseedI'm sorry you missed the sentence where I said none of them were compelling offerings for my tastes. It would have saved you a lot of time and typing.
Omniseed
1972
May 6, 2018
Ray_NCIf you were so disinterested why did you bother pretending that you like the knives but the logo made you abstain?
I think you're the one wasting time.
Axeguy
1372
May 6, 2018
OmniseedNice. :) I think that these quality collaborations are going to be a reason for people to join Massdrop. The quality of the ones I own is impressive and I am a collector, at heart. (That is to say I’m scaling back but still have a lot of nice knives.) I have enough experience to know that this is some of FF’s best design work: they are giving their collabs their ‘all’. It would not surprise me if some of these collabs increase in value! (I await Tashi’s Prism with great interest.) No problem with a Massdrop logo: I’m kinda proud to be on the ‘ground floor’ of these collab ventures!!!
Ray_NC
29
May 7, 2018
OmniseedThe zealotry and intolerance for dissenting opinions among the fanboys is truly amazing.
I was not disinterested, nor was I pretending to like ANYTHING. My comments were in the Lion Steel SR2 Mini Molleta discussion. I BOUGHT ONE and it's a GREAT KNIFE. All I did was ask whether or not it had a Massdrop logo before I purchased it. I never asked anybody about any of the knives you mentioned, NOR did I post in those discussions for those knives.
That said, I own several hundred knives, and of those probably 15 or 20 were "Must Haves" for me. The rest were either impulse purchases or knives that I just wanted to check out and use, or knives that had some particular appeal. The vast majority of my knife collection, I could have "gone either way", either purchasing them or passing them up, and more often than not, that decision hung in the balance.
So the Massdrop logo isn't a big deal for me. But when my decision comes down to the little details and I'm "on the fence" about a particular blade - it does weigh against that decision. If it's truly a Massdrop exclusive that is one of those rare "must haves" - then, yeah, I could probably live with it. For my tastes and my collection, just haven't found "must haves" yet that have a MD logo.
What really is interesting to me is people talking about "all the hate" for logo and/or for Massdrop. It isn't hate - it's a PREFERENCE. The hate is reserved for those who, like me, dare to state that preference. It's the classic case of those screaming the loudest about "intolerance" who are themselves the most intolerant people on the planet.
Omniseed
1972
May 8, 2018
Ray_NCYou are saying that the logo is a dealbreaker for you in one breath, and in the next saying that you never really liked the designs and that's why you aren't interested.
Either way, your weird tirade against me for daring to converse with you in a discussion board is enough for me, you have yourself a normal one bud.
Ray_NC
29
May 9, 2018
OmniseedOnce again, you have misrepresented what I said, twisting my words into what you want them to be, rather than what I actually said.
I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you read some of the posts that other people made in this discussion of LION STEEL knives, and mistakenly attributed them to me. That's the only way that I can keep from thinking you're a complete < profanity not used here for civility >.
You may want to re-read the posts in this discussion, and pay careful attention to the ones that I posted, and the ones I did not.