DDroI love the Sebenza; they're an awesome knife, but these knives can actually give Chris Reeve Knives a run for the money. Liong Mah is a well known designer. He's designed for Columbia River and other mainstream manufacturers. These knives are actually manufactured by Reate, a China based company that's taken the mid-tech knife world by storm. Reates have incredible quality, fit and finish. In addition to manufacturering for Mah, they also manufacture for Todd Begg, Faisal Yamin and produce their own in-house designs. I own several Reates and they're all excellent. They're active at Blade and Shot Show, as well as on enthusiast forums. You can't go wrong with these knives and the price has gradually crept up...I bought my first Reate, a Horizon B, used for $140! These knives surpass your basic Benchmade, ZT and Spyderco and compete with >$500 mid-techs.