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planb10113
352
Dec 27, 2017
I'm putting together a fire starting kit/tinder box and am looking for something waterproof to hold everything. I was considering something like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004699DS6/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2LS8DXHFWPBGC&colid=32MM0GCA7E2PR&psc=1 or a small Pelican case, but if this is sturdy enough to be open and closed regularly I could see this being a lighter option. Anyone have any thoughts as to how well this would serve my purpose of being a waterproof tinder box?
holygoat
92
Dec 27, 2017
planb10113They're pretty durable, at least when compared to a ZipLoc bag, but they're flat, and so they aren't great for holding significant volume.
planb10113Hi there, I actually keep *all* my essentials (not just fire, but signal, first aid, knive, cordage etc) in a single OpSak and have been for years. Works great, much better than a hard container IMO for several reasons - lighter as you pointed out, *conforming*, less rattling/shifting in the bag (man, stuff clunking around in my bag while I walk just drives me crazy ) AND, because it's conforming I can take it out of my pack and shove it into a cargo pocket for those times when I'm dumping ruck to take a side trail (when I'm gassed there's no way I'm taking my ruck a half mile down off the ridgeline to filter then a half mile back up, that bitch is staying on main trail, but I'm also not dumb enough to leave my survival kit on the main trail).
Have to say it's worked wonderfully and I'm super pleased with the setup. I'm here now because they are great bags - I forget the actual thickiness but I want to say they are 6 or 7 mils. By comparison standard 'flimsy' ziplocks are about 2, and the freezer ones around 4 (there are variables, of course) . The zippers are very good, well sealing yet easy to manipulate, and after years of use there's no sign of perforation on the main pouch or any issues with the zippers either. Mine are the scent proofed version for food storage, and alledgedly after several years the scent proofing can wear off - if in bear country I don't think I would rely on these alone without hanging (and in most of the bearish woods in my area you're required to hang or can anyhow) so I'm not very concerned about that. Apparently some people are interested in these bags for storing recreational products and are more concerned about their scent proofing abilities and duration. Also not very concerned about that.
In the past I carried FAK items in plastic bins like you suggested; - still have them all, some of them still holding unused items. They're a great inexpensive alternative if you're starting off or need/want to be frugal, but ultimately I'm much happier using a locksak instead. Note that my FAK contains only a few soft items and they're all small - some 2x's and some bandaids, tape etc. No paper wrapped ABDs, no cotton swabs, nothing that really needs to be protected. It's a super trimmed down individual kit I built very specifically for hiking. I do have other kits that have more dressings that require some more protection (paper wrapped, not foil and I do keep those in plastic containers for protection. However they're just for car camping with the fam, or fishing, keeping in the car, the garage etc. I don't hike or backpack with them.
Hope this helps, I would buy confidently. These genuinely are a solid product that will last many years.
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planb10113
352
Dec 28, 2017
EverythingIsBetterOutdoorsVery helpful answer, you've convinced me. I really appreciate the input. I think I may still get the hard case, but I'm going to pick up a set of these as well for more options. Glad there's someone else out there that's used them for the same purposes I'm thinking. This is why I love this site and these discussions, so much to learn.
planb10113Glad I could be helpful. Yes, having discussion pages on the products, vs just reviews, is extremely helpful and adds a lot of value to the site. The fact that manufacturer reps and MassDrop employees are active on them are a huge huge plus.