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LUM-TEC M Series Automatic Watch

LUM-TEC M Series Automatic Watch

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I really like the B series of the watches and if you can get them on a deal, I think the price is fair for something made in the USA. Compared to say Helson, which is made in China. Not saying they can trump a Seiko but I do really like them and I just ordered a b33 when I was able to get it at a huge savings.
I REALLY Love the bronze b18 though. Ever put that up here and I would be interested. But I got no love for the M series.
Sorry, I just don't see where the $700 value is earned in this watch. If you look around, you can pick up a really nice micro-brand diver for $300-$500, with the same (or equivalent) movement, sapphire crystal, as good or better WR. Personally, I don't find the design to be anything special that would justify the premium price. Not for me.
Is Lum-tec going upmarket now ? We have to pay a hell lot more just for a brighter and longer lume now ?
Lum-Tec makes a decent watch, but they're way overpriced. If you want a reliable watch with killer (& better) lume, buy a Seiko diver.
You can get a Maratac automatic for a third of that price. And, I think they look better.
I do not own this watch, but I do own one of their other watches. For my line of work, there is nothing better. Yes, these watches are expensive. But if you're looking for a watch that glows brightly for hours, this is it. It is an expensive watch for the movement, but I've been to their store in Ohio, I've met the owner, and they really take a ton of pride in their stuff and stand behind their products.
This glows as bright as one of those luminox watches, except unlike those, it's actually built well and won't break on you. I have so many buddies that have luminox watches and they all break on them very easily. These watches won't. I literally see the reflection of my watch glowing on the walls in the evening.
You're not buying the moment here. You're buying a watch that will glow almost all night long, looks fantastic, and you're buying something that you know the company will stand behind.
I paid, if I recall, 700 for my watch and it isn't automatic, it's battery - so with this one being automatic perhaps that will help you justify this purchase. I wear it daily and it's my favourite watch I own.
I hope this helps someone out!
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there's no point in this watch if davosa is offering a swiss movement at a lower cost.
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Unless we're getting into smart-watches and other innovations made in the last decade or two, there's nothing that ANY affordable mechanical watch has done lately that's truly original. You simply can't afford bleeding-edge horology or style at that price point. But that's not what I was implying, I never said that they were paving ground. I said that they're not blatantly imitating anyone. They're not doing Mercedes hands on divers with unidirectional bezels with cyclops magnifiers and a triangle / rectangle / circle hour markers like Davosa, Steinhart, Squale, Casio, and so many others copy blatantly ALL of those features as a whole.
If you're going to give Lum Tec shit for using sword hands (GAA! homage!), screw down crown (triggered! someone else did it first!), lumed sausage arabics (but muh panerai!), then you can pretty much throw the entire mechanical watch industry in that same category. Sword hands aren't really an homage at this point, they're just a good timeless choice. If they're not allowed to use those, what shapes for hands are left? Veiny dicks?
tl;dr: Copying an entire watch and calling it an homage (e.g. Steinhart) is one thing. Mixing lots of different styling cues and other mechanical watch design bits into a new watch that have been used by multiple manufacturers for over a hundred years, that's not an homage. You can't have an homage to sword hands or an homage to a screw down crown. The homage is to a piece. I don't even consider this a Panerai ripoff by any means. It's got its own character. If I were to give the same test to a watch that I own, the Lum Tec Combat B34, I can't think of a single watch that it's an homage to. It's really a unique piece.
flyinglotus1983
I'm talking about aspects of style. And no, you cannot throw the entire mechanical watch industry in the same category of watchmakers that take all aspects of their watches from a mix of other makers/models. Talk about a bullshit statement. What Lum-Tec builds looks like each piece of the watch came from a mixed parts bin. There's nothing original except for the combination of each piece's origin. Most of these boutique companies need to make watches that look familiar so people will buy them. It would be nice to see some original designs that don't look like a frankenwatch. Seiko Sumo; aside from the hands, it's a completely original design. Most Orients, Seiko Monster, Swatch Sistem51, several of the Victorinox autos, Autodromo, Mondaine; all are highly original design mechanical watches. And if you think your B34 isn't built from the "been there, done that" parts bin, well, you must not have been collecting watches for very long.
Ok everyone, let's move past the comments about women and different ethnicities and focus on watches. Don't make me pull this car over!
IanAnderson
Speaking of watches, I just stumbled upon this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/398973070/ventus-caspian-a-salute-to-heritage/description and I'm so bummed that I missed the campaign! Seeing quite a lot of kickstarted projects on Massdrop, do you think it would be possible to drop this baby?
Anyway, here's the poll if anyone is interested: https://www.massdrop.com/vote/kickstarted-wrist-watches
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basedfob
I am Korean, but that really has nothing to do with my point. I could say the same thing about U.S. when you look at regions of the country like LA or Miami. It is natural progression to want to look good when you have money and time. I think the way I do because I know we are all silently judged and stereotyped as you are doing.
basedfob
I'm actually quite a lot offended by this post - and I'm English. To make such a sweeping generalisation about an entire nation of people just smacks of bigotry and ignorance in my opinion. No place for this kind of thing here, in my view.
It's a nice looking watch. That said, it's quite expensive for a Japanese movement. In my opinion, either go with a real Panerai or stick to the cheaper Seiko options. You could even have a Seiko modded to look pretty much exactly like this for half the price.
Please, tell me more about what having good watches can do for you.
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The thing is, most higher end watch makers that do have "better parts" based on an ETA movement, are also in house. Most of that work is down outside of the realm of ETA as a movement manufacturer. It's more the name ETA brings more with it than anything. Proprietary hairsprings, material blends, etc will go into a movement -- and at that point, when does it stop being ETA.
With regards to tuned spec, no one claims a tuned specification in their spec docs, because that's not how it will arrive. Anything can be made to perform better. If someone cared enough, I'm sure they could make their own pieces in the best material and clone a movement outright, and it'll perform better.
With ETA shutting down most of it's ebauche operations, other companies are either outright cloning or going outside, and rightly so. It's also what they're used to, and what people expect. I don't really see it as overpaying for a Miyota, but maybe it's the other way around. Miyota is more known for "workhorse" movements, and the name Miyota/Citizen will carry a stigma. Just like Seiko will probably be looked down upon, simply for the fact that it's a Seiko. Sure we all know of their common divers, and maybe even their Prospex line, but their Grand Seiko line is actually top notch.
Soundprank
I can't find the spec sheets for ETA movements anymore but wikipedia still has the information. For the ETA 2824-2, here are the different grades:
.the Standard grade is adjusted in two positions with an average rate of +/-12 seconds/day, with a maximum daily variation of +/-30 seconds/day; .the Elaborated grade is adjusted in three positions with an average rate of +/-7 seconds/day, with a maximum daily variation of +/-20 seconds/day; .while the Top grade is adjusted in five positions with an average rate of +/-4 seconds/day, with a maximum daily variation of +/-15 seconds/day.
"The key components which differ at the line of demarcation between Elaborated and Top are the barrel spring, shock protection system, pallet stones, balance wheel & hairspring and the regulator mechanism."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_SA#ETA_2824-2
Note that it's not just a matter of difference in tuning but also an array of upgraded parts.
Yes, the clone market is huge right now since ETA patents have long expired. However, market price is what determines how much I'm willing to pay for a product. It's a matter of economics, like paying extra for a PS4 when it was sold out everywhere. Back in the day you can get an authentic mid range ETA movement watch for less than $700 when ETA was still supplying for everyone and their mom. Now it's gonna cost you at least $1000 due to ETA limiting their supply to outside watch manufacturers.
That being said, I still rock a Seiko Pepsi Diver as a daily wearer over my more expensive ETA movement watches because it's a workhorse and a beater. Japanese movements are OK in my book.
I think LUM-TEC is overvaluing their product here. "Limited Edition" just means that there isn't that much demand for it. 316L stainless is common and nothing special since many other manufacturers, even Chinese ones, have it for cheap. It doesn't look like they did any modifications to the movement except tuning it. Their "top grade" leather band says "genuine leather", the cheapest grade underneath "top grain" and "full grain" that cracks easily and is usually spray painted.
The only real feature for them is the lume. Kudos to them for being American based though because 'MURICA. They may have my business in the future, just not this product at this price.
I have a Panerai watch and I don't know why people say it is worthless to pay $6000 for just the brand name. You pay $6000 because of the brand name. Just save up and get a decent watch like Panerai. I would go in further to explain what having good watches can do for you, but if you have one, you know. And if you wear cheap watches, you will just have resentment toward those who own them and no reason will make sense to you.
Twice as much as a Miyota 9015 powered watch should cost.
a lot to pay for a Japanese movement
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im not taking anything away from Japanese movements but still this seems a little pricy. especially when davosa drops swiss movements to 500$
This has a Japanese Miyoya movement in it, which is part of the Citizen watch group. Nothing is close to being Swiss about this watch.
This exact watch is going for $595 on Amazon. I really don't get Massdrop.
Frcotting
You're looking at the M58, a quartz watch, not the M68, an automatic.
i have a LUM-TEC, although a different model from several years ago, and the quality is great and the customer service is outstanding as well as friendly. i am definitely eyeing one of these, but i don't know if i can pull the trigger...been an expensive month. i do have a question though, on the website, the M-69 seems to have blue lume, is that the case? i need some blue lume.
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No, it has luminescent markers.
For the lume pics, the watch was probably charged with a bright light or a blacklight shortly before the pic was taken.
I'd love to see the rubber strap and stainless steel bracelet
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If anyone is just getting this just for the lume i think Seiko Monster has pretty good lume for lower price.
DeathWatch
Seiko monster is a good benchmark. They have fantastic lume. HUGE lume markers. You are right. They are produced in the hundreds of thousands and made from lesser materials (mineral glass with no AR coatings, 304 stainless, 200 meters only, lessor movement quality) so naturally the price is lower. If you want hand made quality and exclusivity the selection from LÜM-TEC is really good.
RayKnight
Seiko makes a wide range of watches. You can't really compare one of their lower end models (Monster) and deem the entire brand to be low quality. I suspect they stick with their Hardlex crystals not for cost savings, but because of its combination of being very scratch resistant and being less prone to shattering than sapphire. I own about half a dozen Seikos and have yet to scratch one of their crystals.
If you want a watch that has great lume, but with a bit more refinement than the Monster line, look at the Seiko Sumo line. I don't own a Lum-Tec to compare with, but I do have a Rolex Submariner and an Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch; yet the Sumo remains one of my favorites.
if only it had tritium
Too bad no bronze...
These are super limited series. Only 100-175 numbered watches worldwide. All materials are top end. Sapphire crystals front and rear with double side anti-reflective DLC coating, 316L stainless steel, water resistant to 300 meters, dials are hand made, They include a leather strap, top grade rubber strap and a 316L stainless steel bracelet, Top grade A Swiss Super-Luminova filled by hand, Full lifetime free timing adjustments and pressure testing and they are all designed, assembled, tested and serviced in Ohio. The movements are the most high end version made by Miyota and designed to exceed the performance of the common ETA 2824-2 and 2892 movements. They are all tuned to run LÜM-TEC's performance standard of +/- 3 seconds/day in 6 positions which is a higher standard than the Swiss COSC standard. There are very few watches with this high of quality craftmanship and material standard anywhere near this price range.
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RayKnight
Well said, RayKnight. At around $700, any of these limited edition models is a good buy, especially with three straps included. Add to that the fact that these are not 'gray market' examples that lack manufacturer support and the value is obvious.
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I can't help but notice that you used "We" in your responds,so are you the representative of LUM-TEC?If so why don't you have the "V" mark that Massdrop issues for Vendor account,you should really ask for one.But it could be that Massdrop seems to be updating their website.
9015 seems to be a good movement but personally i don't like it since I don't live in US and it is hard to get it fixed,and ETA is much easier.And i don't really care for Japanese movement but that is just my prejudice and i know a good number of people love it.
Also i believe ETA movement has different grades,so it can come pre-tuned from ETA.
And from what I learn that open your watch every year is not a bright idea since every time that you do so you risk damage parts in the movement,and have dust entering the movement.I have an Omega Speedmaster,i just send it to service,but the official service center return it with a dent on the movement plate.They are not Swiss watchmakers but they still are the authorized official service center in my country,and they still screwed up.Oh,and i know many people got their watch's case scratched by watchmakers,mine is ceramic so it didn't happen but this is a stainless steel watch.
I am not a hater or anything ,but i just don't find this particular model interesting,if you are the vendor would you bring the 300m model? https://www.lum-tec.com/collection/current-models/300m.html. I found them more interesting than this,preferably with ETA movement but that is just my thought.
I think the 300m has some interesting changes over the IWC it seems to based on.Which makes it interesting to me,a bit like the Omega 300m and a bit like the IWC diver,maybe some Rolex and Omega PO as well.I don't hate a mix but i certain don't want to wear a watch that seems to be from an high-end brand which it is not,that seems misleading and dishonest to me.(this M series one)
I love a good lum,so i do find the idea that LUM-TEC is based on interesting.A good lum is pretty important to me,that is the reason why i got the Omega PO,they said it is one of the brightest lum watch available on the market and i'd like to see how LUM-TEC stack on with it.The reason won't get this watch is that i think Panerai is overpriced,while i like the design i don't like the craftsmanship of Panerai,it charges too much for what it is,and a look-alike is even worse IMHO.
So if you are the vendor please don't be pissed for what i said,i am sorry if I came out a bit strong.I really like to see the 300m on Massdrop,and if you do bring it,I will get a version with PVD and ETA.
Wow, I paid $239 for a Maratac GPT-2 with the same exact Miyota 9015 movement.
$700 for a watch with miyota movement?
Indeed. Looks like a Panerai model for which one doesn't spend an additional $6000 just to impress with nothing but a brand name.
looks like a cheap panerai