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tcabeen
53
Jan 4, 2017
This is faster than the Panasonic 12-60 M4/3 lens, but I don't see the value proposition, even at this price. The 12-60 is less expensive, longer, not much slower, and it's environmentally sealed. To me, that is more versatile. But I'm also a novice, so I'm not saying one is better. It could be out of pure ignorance that I don't see the benefit, here. :)
l3xm4rk
186
Jan 5, 2017
tcabeenThe 12-60mm f/3.5-5.6 (I assume you mean that one and not the newly announced 12-60mm f/2.8-4.0 that isn't available yet) is a good lens. It was the kit lens that came with my G85 although I'm now going to sell it because I have the f/2.8 combo instead (anyone want to buy one - going cheap! :P). I agree that the 12-60 is less expensive and longer, although we might disagree as to the extent of how much slower it is over the 12-35 f/2.8. Both lenses are environmentally sealed.
It's worth noting that with the f/2.8 you get a constant aperture. That is, you get f/2.8 whether you have the lens wide open or at the long end of the range. The f/3.5-5.6 is a variable aperture lens which means you'll only get f/3.5 at the wide end, and it will stop down as you zoom. Then there's an improved depth of field with the faster lens, improved bokeh, less-no vignetting and overall better optics. For me, the slightly higher price on the f/2.8 was worth it (particularly as I look to sell the 12-60 to pay for some of it!).
Tjaron
4
Jan 6, 2017
l3xm4rkHow much are selling your old 12-60 mm for? I'm interested in buying a better lense for my g7.
l3xm4rk
186
Jan 6, 2017
TjaronThey retail for $699 (http://www.panasonic.com/au/consumer/lumix-cameras-video-cameras/lumix-g-lenses/h-fs12060e.html) but was thinking something like $400? Brand new, never been used. Includes lens hood and both front and rear lens caps.
tcabeen
53
Jan 7, 2017
l3xm4rkThanks for the reply and all that information. I got the Lumix GX8 and - you speculated correctly that I do not have access to unreleased models - the 12-60 lens is model H-FS12060. It is an *awesome* lens for my needs. You're offering it for an excellent price. Best of luck with that, and enjoy your new lens. Thanks again!
Treeboi
6
Jan 9, 2017
tcabeenThe main reason I picked up an F2.8 zoom (the Olympus 12-40/2.8) was for low light performance.
I found that anything indoors, in the evening, photographing people, I needed an F2.8 or better lens just to prevent subject blur. Once your shutter speed gets to 1/30s or slower, your photos become slow enough that you'll start catching people breathing, causing them to be a little blurry, even though everything else is sharp. The slower your shutter, the more often this happens. By 1/15s, I found subject blur happening about 50% of the time, and nearly unusable for active kids.
To keep a reasonable shutter speed, you need either a high ISO, which introduces noise/grain in your photos, or you need a better lens, one with F2.8 or better, or you use a flash, which introduces a whole other set of issues.
Like most other photographers, I initially solved this with prime lenses, like the Panasonic 25mm/F1.4 prime, but after a while, I got tired of changing out primes all the time, and eventually bit the bullet to buy an F2.8 zoom.