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MTG 4th Edition Starter Deck

MTG 4th Edition Starter Deck

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I grabbed one last time it dropped. I opened a balance and a mana short. Kinda cool that I have a fresh balance for my cube in addition to all the beautiful white border lands. Overall value for the deck was low but you shouldn't buy these expecting high value returns. If you're looking for specific cards out of these honestly buying the singles online is your best bet.
Got my box on friday. It was in good condition however i got a bunk box that included no Rares. Hopefully others have better luck.
Why? Why in the world would they ship to US only?
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Why WoTC would do something like that?
MortalKonga
The rule only applies to sets that are less than 2 years old. Afterwards anyone can ship any box anywhere. Massdrop just has a blanket rule they've chose to use. @karnophage
If I order 1 Starter Deck would it be enough to make 2 decks and play with a friend?
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Cooluck
No, not even close actually. What you want is a duel deck.
Cooluck
Yes, but you really want (2) starters. You'll end up with enough of each color between the 2 boxes to be able to build a couple of 2 color decks to play with. Way back in the day, my friend had 2 decks of what's now called alpha. I didn't buy cards for a couple of years because we'd just assemble a deck each out of which ever box we picked up, and we'd play. It worked great. Now, I think I've down sized to just a cubic foot or two of the damned things.
I bought this product purely for nostalgia reasons. But this product is highly suspicious of a repacked product. The top of the package looked like it was resealed. Not one card over 25 cents. Now some will say well 4th isn't that great of a set I would agree. However (and yes it could be just the luck of the draw) even the incredibly cheap cards (again I did not buy for investment reasons) crusade and channel are only cards that a person would even consider taking. Where I don't necessarily regret buying the product I do not think will buy MTG products from mass drop again.
This is probably a stupid question, but I'm assuming that unlike Pokemon, older MTG cards are actually legal? In sanctioned Pokemon TCG matches you can only use cards from more recent sets...
BlueCrowned
you are partially correct. in magic there are different formats, standard is the format where you can only use the most recent sets to play, modern is the format which allows any card since 7th edition (I think), legacy which allows *almost* every card (see vintage), and vintage which allows every card with restricted cards. Each format has its own ban list with cards deemed to powerful for the format with vintage being the only set that has a restricted list instead of a ban list. Restricted means you can only have one of a particular card (black lotus, mox(s), etc) in your deck. The cards in this drop would be legal in vintage, legacy, and a few in modern as well seeing as reprints can be found in newer sets.
prplprince
The modern format starts with 8th edition
4th Edition has 0 power in it with all the terrible ante cards as rares. This is the core set I started with and missed out on all the fun and power from Revised and 3rd.
I ain't to enticed by this, but y'all may want to double check the price. It says it's 40 bucks, with a 20 buck MRSP. I know Massdrop is often criticized for its deals (or lack thereof) but this seems to ridiculous to be intentional. https://i.gyazo.com/1bc283e4c6a899922a7199251eb22cf3.png
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Confirmed. I don't remember if 4E had it printed on the box or not, but these were definitely $9.99 and eventually went up in later expansions.
For $20, you could get a 2-player set that was essentially 2 of these, plus a sweet faux leather dice bag and glass life counter beads.
4E DOES have access to the following rares: Land Tax, Mana Vault, Sylvan Library, and Strip Mine (all between $20-$10 value). Also in the set are Birds of Paradise, Wrath of God, Lord of Atlantis, Winter Orb, Hurkyl's Recall, Armageddon, Howling Mine, and a few other notables.
It's not "worth it" from a player's point of view, but these are becoming harder to find in unopened condition and thus have become collector's items in that state. That's why they are listed so high.
$8.99 if memory serves.
I have Received my two decks that I have ordered I have strong suspicions that the decks are non genuine. I have a card within the set that I received (Weakness) which seems to have a hair on the right side of the card after closer inspection it is printed on the card itself which makes me believe that these are scans and unauthorized reprints of these starter decks I just wanted to post here before I contact Support directly to let everyone know to stay away
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Sans_Serif
Yeah, this seems extremely farfetched. If you wanted to print fake magic cards why wouldn't you just print fake versions of the $50 or $100 or $1,000 cards? Also why go through the trouble of attempting to make them look sealed? That's a lot of money on card stock, deck boxes, and not to mention the time and effort. It's basically akin to not only counterfeiting pennies, which isn't worth the raw materials you'd use, but then hand rolling then in 50 cent wraps.
The "ripoff" here isn't that it's fake, it's that you'll be very unlikely to open more value then the cost of the product. But that "ripoff" is basically a cornerstone of Magic the Gathering. Sealed product is always much less likely to contain more value then its cost.
Will this be aviable for people outside of the US? Previous MTG products (cards) have't been aviable for shipping, and it doesn't say which country it only ships to anymore (next to the price).
Lizard_Lord
Note: As with all sealed Magic: the Gathering products, this drop is limited to customers within the United States.
It's in the order details towards the top of the page.
Oh wow, this brings back memories.
Hello all,
We've caught an end date bug in our system. The correct end day for this drop will be 7 days after today, which is Feb 21st. Fulfillment period should be updated as well. Please give a few minutes for this change to reflect. Apologies for any confusion!
XiK
My product was shipped back to the vendor due to an address error, because massdrop wouldn't save my apartment number in my default address. Is there any way I can get my drop still? Support said they were charging me for shipping but refunding me the rest. I never saw the product yet I am still being forced to pay for part of it. Can I contact the vendor and talk to them directly?
Zamaritan
LOL, they forcing you to pay the shipping? LOL, let me tell you a little secret. Go to your financial institution and dispute the charges. What happens is Massdrop will be charged an investigation fee anywhere from $40-$100 just for you disputing the charges. You'll get your money back because your financial institution is heavily regulated by laws that protect consumers. You didn't receive the product, they didn't uphold their end of the deal, this is a clear win for you, it's called "breach of contract" - your bank / credit card company will never side with them, you are their customer and I'll tell you first hand, THEY DON'T INVESTIGATE ANYTHING! You as a merchant can provide tracking links of proof and your financial institution will never click any of the details of the investigation, because they simply don't have time and they are getting paid the investigation fee regardless of who is right or wrong.
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Wow, brings back memories. Was my first starter too!
Wow 4th edition, i start playing with that starter pack like 16 years ago. Sadly don't ship outside US.
how did they get this? like, how do they have 260 decks from that long ago
AllDayTayTay
By 4th edition, Black Lotus prices were already up over $300. It's not unreasonable to think that some enterprising individual bought several cases of starters and locked them away hoping for cards from that set to appreciate in value to a similar level. Nor is it unreasonable to think that they've decided that these decks have reached a stable price so that now is as good a time as any to liquidate them.
Am I missing something? The MSRP is $15.99 and this deal is $39.99?
veczilla
This product is 20 years old. The msrp is also from 20 years ago, so it doesn't mean much now.
veczilla
MSRP 20 years ago wasn't that high, was it? Revised (3rd edition) starters were $9.95, they wouldn't have jumped 60% in one edition.
Why can't people from outside the US join? The same goes for other Magic products. I've recently started playing and constantly see good deals here that I can't join...
Lizard_Lord
I don't know why you can't join this drop but WoTC retailers are not allowed to sell product younger than two years internationally.
Lizard_Lord
Probably because of international shipping cost, MassDrop is far from fair on their prices as opposed to literally any other major online stores, in the USA at least.
What!? You are not serious!? Either these are reprints, or Wizards of the Coast had too many from back in the day...do a drop on the original Netrunner, and then we can talk, for reels...
Xx00zeROxX
Yes!
Interesting product selection; however, I'm not sure why anyone would want to join this drop. You could just buy-it-now on eBay for $39.99 and get it in the mail before this drop even closes.
Isles
Not only that but eBay has many sellers asking the same price with free shipping and no tax. Yet another Massdrop Hobby Shop non deal.
Here is a list of every card in 4th that is currently worth over $2.00:
Sylvan Library (R)$18.00 Land Tax (R)$15.33 Mana Vault (R)$10.58 Strip Mine (U)$7.59 Birds of Paradise (R)$7.09 Lord of Atlantis (R)$4.60 Wrath of God (R)$4.51 Winter Orb (R)$4.46 Hurkyl's Recall (R)$3.63 Howling Mine (R)$2.88 Mind Twist (R)$2.67 Armageddon (R)$2.62 Lightning Bolt (C)$2.42S words to Plowshares (U)$2.29 Winds of Change (R)$2.21 Zombie Master (R)$2.11 Nether Shadow (R)$2.09 Ball Lightning (R)$2.08 The Rack (U)$2.02
(taken from http://www.mtgstocks.com/sets/71)
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Ah, gotcha. My mistake. Should've read more carefully.
I think we may have mis-communicated. I've edited my post so that it's clearer that I'm not saying every card in 4th IS worth $2.00, just that I was listing the ones that currently are :)
11/17/2016 $41.99 / $39.99 $15.99 MSRP $3.62 SHIPPING TO: USA
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Thanks again for joining the drop with the community. We submitted the group’s order with the vendor for the MtG 4th Edition Starter Deck shortly after the drop ended and they have begun preparing it for shipment.
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How much did they sell here for?
Are these "new", unopened decks? Or if they are previously used, what condition are they in? Is every deck the same? Or would I get different cards if I bought 2 decks? FYI, these sell for $49.99 on Amazon and $34.99 on StarCityGames.com
Khardiss
If these are factory sealed, all Starter Decks that were ever made were different from each other. A Starter Deck originally cost $7-$10, and was essentially 3 booster packs with a rules book, though the original Alpha/Beta and maybe Unlimited as well? I forget... only had two rares in it, not three.
Each deck has 60 cards, and is definitely just a big booster pack with white borders and a handful of basic lands. Buy only for nostalgia value, as the only way you make your money back (break even, just about) is if you open BOTH Sylvan Library and Land Tax. The entire set is underpowered junk with little, if any, monetary value.
4th Edition is a really non-optimal set - buy for nostalgia value only.
Can someone clarify how many cards are included? Deck implies 60 and the box looks like about 60. The description seems to imply that there are 300
dimyawn
Each booster box contains (if memory serves) 60 cards and a rulebook. The entire set of 4th edition contained 300+.