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newtonapple
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Sep 19, 2018
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How come this is more expensive than the CTRL? I just bought the CTRL keyboard and would really love to have the ALT instead...
HerpDerpenberg
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Sep 20, 2018
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newtonappleMore metal and longer machine time, time is money. The CTRL and ALT just flat plane the top of the board, this has to cut out the area for the keycaps/switches and takes multiple passes to remove material.
Jphughes
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Sep 20, 2018
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newtonappleWhat switches did u buy on the ctrl I will buy it from you
john.yu
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Sep 20, 2018
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newtonapple@HerpDerpenberg 's assessment is correct. A lot more raw material is required (more than 2x), and significantly more machining time. (we're also adding more curved surfaces, which more more complex to machine)
newtonapple
185
Sep 20, 2018
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JphughesI got the speed switches. But, I’ll probably keep it for now.
BlueSkies
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Sep 20, 2018
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john.yu" we're also adding more curved surfaces, which more more complex to machine " That's true, but as machined metal goes, this is a trivial CNC job. There's nothing complicated going on here. Must agree with newtonapple.. the price is too high.
HerpDerpenberg
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Sep 20, 2018
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BlueSkiesSure, anything is trivial on a CNC as long as you design the part so it can be manufactured, program the CNC machine to do it, and that still takes time.
More time on a machine means someone to set up the machine, someone's being paid while the machine is running even if they're not manually controlling the machine, so there is a cost increase. You factor in more time on the machine is more wear on the tools, cost increase factored in. More time making one part means less time to make other parts, so your production speed goes down and cost per part goes up. You can't just turn up the speed and cut faster as machining has max cutting speeds all based on material type, material of the tool, radius of the tool, feed rate of the tool, how cool you keep the tool. machine that's doing the work, etc.
Then the base of the case has an angled cut built into it. That requires either the machine to angle the part, an operator to set the part manually or use a jig that needs to be built for this project and requires extra money. The design of the CTRL and ALT by themselves were very basic. This has a lot more going on with it.
More time on a machine means someone to set up the machine, someone's being paid while the machine is running even if they're not manually controlling the machine, so there is a cost increase. You factor in more time on the machine is more wear on the tools, cost increase factored in. More time making one part means less time to make other parts, so your production speed goes down and cost per part goes up. You can't just turn up the speed and cut faster as machining has max cutting speeds all based on material type, material of the tool, radius of the tool, feed rate of the tool, how cool you keep the tool. machine that's doing the work, etc.
Then the base of the case has an angled cut built into it. That requires either the machine to angle the part, an operator to set the part manually or use a jig that needs to be built for this project and requires extra money. The design of the CTRL and ALT by themselves were very basic. This has a lot more going on with it.
Moon8
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Sep 21, 2018
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hey, if you still have it and no one else messaged, i'd be interested in it!
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