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Urano_Metria
658
Oct 6, 2018
We really can't find just 15-16 more people to make this drop a reality? I know I've probably said it many times in this discussions page, but I honestly just can't believe that the demand for this board is so low. I know a bunch of people have already bought the low-profile/floating keys ALT, but a bunch of people missed out as well.
5,349 people have requested a re-drop of the ALT since it closed. I don't know anything about Massdrop's behind-the-scenes success rate on the percentage of people who request a re-drop on something and actually buy it, but looking at it realistically I would think at least 10% of the people who clicked on 'request' are actual potential buyers who missed out and not just people that wanted to see it go live again so they can think about it there.
Out of the 535 people left, would it not be realistic to think that 33% (a third) of them would either prefer the new High-Profil version, or still be willing to give it a shot considering the original ALT is no longer available for purchase?
That brings us to 178 people. Out of those 178 people, whoever they are, wherever they are, some of them may not even know that an ALT High-Profile is being offered, some may not like the price, some may not like the long lead time and are looking for other 65% hot swap solutions, some people may not like the renders and don't want to risk the money.
Realistically I'd probably cut out 50% of them for safe measure. Based on what I perceive to be realistic (since we don't have Massdrop's data), this should give us 89 motivated and serious buyers at minimum all exclusively from interest built from the original ALT. This completely excludes entirely new Massdrop members looking into the ALT High-Profile and were never involved in the original ALT.
Frankly, I find it physically impossible that Massdrop couldn't find 11 people outside of this original group to hit MOQ. Maybe I just want this keyboard really bad and I am completely delusional and grasping at straws here. Maybe the price is too high for some people even though they really want it as well. I don't know.
I just don't understand how with the explosion of popularity in mechanical keyboards over the last several years, with smaller layout keyboards being all the rage right now, and the hysterically enthusiastic support for the emergence of hot swappable and programmable keyboards that 100 people couldn't find their way to this Drop.
I haven't reached the stage of desperation where I would start pointing fingers and shouting, but I don't believe everything really adds up here. What am I missing? Is there another board similar to the ALT High-Profile that everyone is interested in or buying instead? I know Kono has the RE:Type coming up soon, but that's not the same layout as this board here.
I almost feel as if Massdrop doesn't even want this board to be made right now, and isn't pushing its interest as high as they could. I'm just disappointed that I will have to settle for something inferior when this drop is cancelled due to lack of interest. Sorry for the ultra long ramble.
Urano_Metria
658
Oct 6, 2018
Urano_MetriaBut seriously though, what am I missing here? If anyone knows what keyboard everyone else is buying instead to make this one unpurchasable, I would really like to know. Looking at it objectively, the desire for this kind of board should be pretty high within the mechanical keyboard community. There has to be something being offered somewhere else that I am missing.
Moon8
28
Oct 6, 2018
Urano_Metriai dont think its what people are going for instead, but there is the rama koyu that im most likely getting if this one fails out. its 65%, hotswappable, integrated plate, MUCH heftier, and also usb c. only thing it doesnt have from this hipro alt would be the underglow, plus the +$150ish price tag.
as for why this isn't successful, i really believe it boils down to people now being wary of massdrop's own made products, as the original ctrl shipped out with a much lighter anodization than promised, really screwing over many people's plans of colorways and such. that coupled with poor customer service (people having defective models/missing keycaps and massdrop saying "we cant replace it" then promptly redropping the ctrl's excess stock) just makes many people not trust them anymore.
i for one wont be bothered if it doesnt reach moq anymore, as i've found many back up plans, that might honestly just become plan A, resulting in me leaving this drop.
Urano_Metria
658
Oct 6, 2018
Moon8Wow, thanks for the shoutout of the KOYU. That board looks absolutely stunning. Looks like it might even be a better investment for (super) long-term use, a timeless aesthetic that won't ever start to feel cringey (ALT/CTRL rim-lighting). really puts my mind at ease if the ALT High-Profile falls through. I appreciate it.
jhoff80
74
Oct 7, 2018
Moon8If only the Koyu didn't have the split backspace, it would be my choice over this.
Moon8
28
Oct 7, 2018
jhoff80thats a plus for me haha, but yeah its not for everyone
Urano_Metria
658
Oct 7, 2018
jhoff80Damn, I didn't even notice that. The KOYU has gone from practically being my next high-end keyboard to dead to me and back multiple times, and I guess this just seals the deal for me on a hard pass. There are a few keys that I can never tolerate being non-standard ANSI. Left shift, backspace, and Enter.
KBDS
0
Oct 7, 2018
Urano_MetriaRama KOYU also has 7u spacebar, not 6.25u spacebar. It means you must buy extra spacebar kits for new keycaps for KOYU.
Urano_Metria
658
Oct 7, 2018
KBDSDamn, loses even more points in my book now. Almost into "unusable even if given for free" territory. I am a bit of a junkie for nice keycap sets, but I'm still not really willing to put in extra money going forward just to support an esoteric layout. Seems like a bad design choice on their part. A non-standard right shift is fine. GMK, SP, ePBT, etc. all seem to support different right shift layouts in their base kits because of the popularity of 60% and smaller boards.
The delusionally sized (and placed) backspace and longer spacebar is a bit of an odd design choice in my opinion though.
SudoPacman
29
Oct 9, 2018
Urano_MetriaIf there was an ISO-UK version I'd be on it. I am not converting to ANSI, sorry.
Joshimitsu
499
Oct 9, 2018
Urano_MetriaThe backspace is in the HHKB position. That plus non-standard bottom row keys and 7u space bars are included in plenty of base kits.
Reason I'm not jumping on this personally is the gaps around the edges are huge, like the Tokyo60. No need for that at all on such an expensive keyboard.
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