Massdrop Blue Box: Spyderco Para 3 Discussions | Drop

Jan 4, 2017

BobrazExcept that they do not; Massdrop doesn't ship knives overseas. Moreover, eBay does ship overseas, and the prices are the same. As a side note, I've never won any upgrades through any of the 10 blue boxes I've joined, therefore I don't see the worth there either.

Jan 4, 2017

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IvanSpendalot

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Jan 4, 2017

BobrazAmazon has Amazon Global Shipping free for order over 125 USD on select items for select countries. Knives are hard to get there. Most of the stuff at Massdrop is not available as Amazon AGS. For me both complement each other and cheaper than retail here.

Jan 4, 2017

hewi

Jan 4, 2017

nantipaneithThey do ship knives overseas, I have used it twice.. The shipping cost is way less than eBay or Amazon

Jan 4, 2017

Jan 4, 2017

hewiThey only ship to a few countries; not the world proper.

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Jan 4, 2017

nantipaneithWhy not say that in the first place? They ship to the UK which is more than Amazon does.

Jan 4, 2017

KTEN

Jan 4, 2017

Bobrazyeah they work out at $180ish equivalent in the UK retail here, amazon.com does ship globally though as I get stuff there that either co.uk doesn't have or is way more expensive even after tax. Knives they (amazon) often wont ship outside US but there are cheaper US sources to global destinations. Problem is if you get stung for tax in a lot of countries it becomes more expensive than buying in country and at this price is is not worth it. Even if you won the freebies you'd get taxed on them since the law changes after China sellers marking everything as gifts you even pay tax on gifts these days (as well as tax on the p&p).
Plus there is a gamble in many countries since you run 2 risks in UK and some other places, 1: taxes and possible fees added make it more expensive than getting in country and 2: It clearing customs since they send a lot of stuff to Mount Doom for melting down. I've gotten nowt melted yet and bought from spyderco direct etc without issue but many have as customs play the miscategorising as a banned item game (eg. uk pen knife as a gravity knife because they held the blade and swung arm with all their might).
Latter seems ridiculous until you realise the point is not actually about that knife as they know full well it isn't that, it is side effect of self justification for funding and politics of hitting political projected figures and so on; making things look good on paper such as "this year we diverted £xxxxx of illegal contraband from entering country" and "crime in this sector down by blah blah". It is done across the board in many sectors for political reasons so they (gov't and organisations) can claim the've accomplished something despite reality may actually be the opposite.

Jan 4, 2017

Jan 4, 2017

badfrogEBay is the important point in my message. That they ship to the U.K. along with another three countries is as unimportant to the majority as UK knife legislation is to Americans.

Jan 4, 2017

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KTEN

Jan 4, 2017

nantipaneithyou may have missed the point of why I mentioned the law in country outside of MD base of ops, the "this isn't a deal" is met with "yeah for Americans, but the rest of the world....." when in fact it is worse for the rest of the world than Americans when you take tax and the import gamble in many of the countries that MD do ship to (UK isn't the only one, many they ship to have similar problem).
TLDR the defense for why the drop is a good deal for someone isn't standing up. The only defense I can see for it is you want to support MD. In fairness I am not knocking MD but just stating this isn't a deal for anyone I can see. I've said elsewhere Spyderco have MAP laws plus MD cannot get a better deal as they are small company that isn't knife only niche business and need to cover staffing etc costs AND turn profit yet we compare them to global businesses with massive leverage or sourcing direct prices ourselves from same places MD do.

Jan 4, 2017

ChimeraReunion

Jan 4, 2017

nantipaneithmassdrop do ship knives overseas, I've gotten a few (including the spyderco delica blue box) here in Australi. It all depends on a country's import and knife laws

Jan 4, 2017

dtghope

Jan 4, 2017

KTENIndeed: I had a valuable item taken and destroyed by 'customs' recently!
Not fun!

Jan 4, 2017

Jan 5, 2017

badfrogBecause the original post to which I replied said "Massdrop sells to the world". That's why. Read it again.

Jan 5, 2017

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Jan 5, 2017

nantipaneithFrom what I see, the post says they ship knives overseas. Maybe you should read before replying:)

Jan 5, 2017

Jan 5, 2017

badfrog"Indeed... Often US buyers forget Massdrop sells to the world, and actually Amazon.com does not!" Hope this helps clear it up.

Jan 5, 2017

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Jan 5, 2017

nantipaneithnantipaneithThey do ship knives overseas, I have used it twice.. The shipping cost is way less than eBay or Amazon thumb_up+ 1replyReply nantipaneith174 18hmore_horiz hewiThey only ship to a few countries; not the world proper.

Jan 5, 2017

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Jan 5, 2017

badfrogI'm replying and referring to your original (and pointless) question: "Why not say that in the first place? They ship to the UK which is more than Amazon does."
And the answer to that is: "Because the original post I replied to said "Massdrop sells to the world". That's why. Read it again."
Please, go up and try to follow.

Jan 5, 2017

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Jan 5, 2017

nantipaneithI have been following your posts and the replies. The comments you claim to replying to seem to change each time so I query 'Are intelligent enough to be allowed to buy knives?'. End of posts - no point in debating further with an idiot.

Jan 5, 2017

Jan 5, 2017

badfrogWe can all see who the idiot is by your (hopefully) final reply.

Jan 5, 2017

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Jubs

Jan 7, 2017

nantipaneithPlease do not tell people to buy knives off Ebay. Searching Spyderco on Ebay and sorting by lowest price yields 48 counterfeits and 2 real Spydercos

Jan 7, 2017

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