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TRexSr

132

Apr 25, 2018

As someone who has glass things like a coffee table that has minimal item put on it, the darn thing scratches with paper towels. I have glassware that dish towels tear up over time. So unless people plan on using microfiber clothes and swiffer dusters, acrylic is probably a better choice for daily use. I am sure there will be reiteration over time for people’s (some) taste but MD can’t please us all. Thats probably why many of us don’t have a better option. We haven’t found it yet. Yeah my faux leather, microfiber inside, acrylic top watch box isn’t the prettiest but it looks nice enough for what I keep in it and I don’t have it on display for others to goo goo gaa gaa over. Lol... I love the customization and have a feeling it’s better quality than what I own. Love the banter but I had to weigh in on the glass.

Cyphre

2708

Apr 26, 2018

TRexSrWell first, I would doubt your coffee table is glass if it scratches that easily, otherwise your windows would suffer the same fate. As a normal person, windex and paper towels are how you clean any glass surface. Why? Because glass is an incredibly hard, brittle substance. To scratch glass requires gouging the surface, as it will only chip and crack.
Acrylic, on the other hand, easily scratches with just a paper towel and a little bit of dust. It also warps/bends and discolors in natural light. You can see evidence of this on a daily basis on older cars that have plastic headlights.

TRexSr

132

Apr 26, 2018

CyphreGlass is glass, how it’s tempered or processed makes a difference on scratch resistance. Professional glass cleaners rarely use paper towels and windex except for a minor streak, rather it’s a squeegee and microfiber towel (I am friends with some). So, we regular folks do things differently aka windex and paper towels. We are harsher on glass, period; it doesn’t always chip or gouge, it scratches. Google it. Is it better than acrylic, absolutely but as design aesthetics go, I am sure price follows upward. As for acrylic warping and discoloring...are you keeping it outside? Lol Comparing to car headlights doesnt work in any relation and not all acrylic is of the same properties. Google it too. Like anything you spend $ to protect and or show off your valueables/collectibles/hold daily use items, I am sure you should take care of it. So far, my cheapy acrylic top watch box is holding up beautifully. I doubt MD would sell as many of these Valets if it was of premium materials and sold for $199.99. There would be buyers but everyone else would whine about cost. I already posted and "liked" the view point of a this drop being a bit expensive in my opinion but it’s design and customizable setup may be one of the main reasons. It’s a pretty good all around setup because Perfection hasn‘t been designed and sold to us yet. Lol

Cyphre

2708

Apr 26, 2018

TRexSrProfessional cleaners use microfiber clothes and squeegees for the obvious reason that disposable products would create too much excess waste if used on an everyday basis. You don't need to know professionals to come to that basic, logical conclusion.
Unfortunately your anecdotal evidence of glass scratching is a personal issue with your own table, as I have a glass coffee table older than me with only a chip in the corner. Glass doesn't scratch like acrylic does, and that is entirely why they still make reading glasses out of glass (or other fancier hybrid substances). Actually causing a scratch in any typical glass surface is essentially chipping the surface of the glass, as the hardness of glass exceeds most substances. I'm happy your own acrylic watch case is working fine, but the rest of us have plenty of issues with acrylic scratching too easily on literally everything.
Car headlights was a hyperbole, but a relevant one, as at least car manufacturers use a variety of methods to keep plastics on cars from discoloring as much as possible; with special coatings and layers added. Another reference would be the rear window on a convertible and whether or not it is plastic or glass. Anyone who has owned a convertible with a plastic rear window can tell you how bad it gets. The only cars that regularly use plastic windows somewhere are off road, race vehicles in order to cut down on weight. They can do so because they aren't used often and have a very short life cycle.

TRexSr

132

Apr 26, 2018

CyphreIts not the excess more so the look and the cost of materials but it's neither here nor there. Glass is not always tempered the same and so scratches can occur even under light cleaning. Glassware takes a beating and eventually shows scratches but it takes a lot longer because they are tempered better than my Ikea glass. (Lol) Yes the physics of scratches can be explained as chipping more or less but the norm is a scratch is a scratch and a chip a chip. We all know it's hard, there are videos showing how to sharpen knives on it. My point which is the only point I cared to make is that glass doesn't guarantee a clean aesthetic over acrylic if it scratches (though less easily). Would it be nicer? Heck yeah and I'd want it but I think the reason acrylic is used (indoors) for the Valet is because it helps keep the cost down for this 1st of a kind Drop. Everyone who says they want glass and leather and whatevs... well so far over 350 units have been sold. I may even relent and buy it too because I really like the design. Should something better come out down the road then others will be happier but I'm willing to bet the sold number stays way under. Keep your Valet indoors and it won't look like the rear window of a BMW 325 convertible from 1995. UV light does the damage, not table lamps. We have are opinions...it's fun to banter. This was my mine. hehe

SantiagoDraco

611

Apr 28, 2018

TRexSrIf you are trying to suggest acrylic is a better choice over glass you are smoking something and I don't want any of it. Not sure why you'd present such an obviously ridiculous argument to defend the design decision for this product. Just admit that it's a profitability issue not a longevity or quality issue.

TRexSr

132

Apr 28, 2018

SantiagoDracoYou can go back and reread my post if that would help answer your question as well as my admission. Ah heck I’ll just repeat myself: if it had glass “heck yeah and I’d want it...”. I also said that acrylic/plexiglass was probably used for this 1st if a kind drop for a better price point. I do not understand where you got confused on my Opinion not argument but thats why this is a discussion area. Don’t like, don’t buy. I haven’t bought in on his drop as of yet. I like the design of the box. Everyone else has there opinion. Glass is better but it isn’t my reason for not joining.

SantiagoDraco

611

Apr 29, 2018

TRexSrGotcha, I didn't read your post properly the first time. Thanks for the clarification.

TRexSr

132

Apr 29, 2018

SantiagoDracoCool...it’s all good. Lol

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