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Shmeled
1
Feb 28, 2017
For someone who never tried a quilt and is used to sleeping bags... is it comfortable? does it really keep the heat up like a sleeping bag? also wondering about the neck, which usually is very covered in a sleeping bag, is it covered good in a quilt? and last question, will it set up good with my klymit static V ultra light pad? thanks alot ♥
HubeyDoobyDoo
477
Mar 1, 2017
ShmeledNew to quilts too so can't comment on the experience personally, you may want to watch a few YouTube videos on Enlighten Equipment quilts. You can snap fasten the neck and tighten with a drawstring so it should be a good fit around the neck. Also believe the straps on the bottom are adjustable to control a close or loose fit. And yes it would be a very good pairing with the klymit static V ultra light pad. Think quick though, drop ends in a few hours!
Vajtagal
290
Mar 1, 2017
ShmeledI have an EE Revelation I got this past fall from EE. The customization is crazy. I got a short length, regular width, 30° , 850 fp down. BEST thing I ever did. It is 58" wide at the neck or top, stays 58" for 36 " , then tapers to 42" at foot. I was never comfortable in a bag, and either froze or roasted. The Revelation is awesome. I also use the klymit static v, the massdrop collaboration 1. Most comfortable I've ever been. There are 2 straps. 1 is a fixed loop, with 1 fixed buckle end, and 1 movable. I put the loop 1 at the foot buckles on the quilt. I just slide the movable buckle closer in or farther out depending on how cold or warm I am. I use the flat strap at the shoulder buckle on the quilt. Runs under me, don't feel it. The neck has a drawstring to snug around your neck to keep out drafts. All this to say, it keeps drafts out just fine once you dial in to your preferences. I'm warmer with my 30° Revelation than I was with my 20° women's marmot bag. I use the klymit, for me it's a great paring. Shredded my pack weight. 16 ouces for my quilt, 16 ounces for my pad . And comfy to boot!
jari.perho
81
Mar 2, 2017
ShmeledI made the transition from sleeping bags to quilts very quickly and easily. Quilts are very comfortable, easy to vent which a sleeping bag often is not, very compressible and no annoying zipper to get stuck. The only time I nowadays go out with a sleeping bag is in winter, because a quilt simply doesn't work for me in that scenario. I enjoy being cocooned in a sleeping bag when it's freezing outside. A quilt and a down jacket has always left me cold and exposed to the smallest of drafts. You really need a lot of experience and put the effort into it, if you want to use a quilt in the winter, too. The good thing is you can use your quilts inside a sleeping bag to add insulation only where it matters, on top of you.
Shmeled
1
Mar 2, 2017
jari.perhoThat sounds interesting... Not sure what you would consider winter, but do you think the 20° quilt in a double-wall tent won't be good through 30° nights?
jari.perho
81
Mar 2, 2017
ShmeledWell, I can only talk for myself here. Any colder than 30 degrees and I would gladly carry a sleeping bag. Good sleep is very important, so I like to play it safe and warm.
How low you can go with a quilt really depends on how you sleep and what other items you have in your sleep system. Some people toss and turn during the night, so keeping the quilt in place can be a challenge. If you sleep on your back, then that's a big help in keeping the quilt in place and tucked underneath you. I sleep on my side and I simply haven't been able to get comfortable with a quilt at cold temperatures.
I think a 20 degree quilt for 30 degree nights is definitely doable. It just requires experience, a warm hat or a hood and having the time to make the quilt work for you. It's not as easy as a sleeping bag, that's for sure.
Vajtagal
290
Mar 2, 2017
ShmeledI'm fine with a quilt in 20° F, and I'm female somewhat cold sleeping. In my EE Revelation which is rated to 30°. Base layer, head covered. I use a 4.4 r value pad. The EE quilt has buckle ends sewn in, the loop and strap buckle in and keep drafts out and warmth in, and I'm a side sleeper. I have the massdrop version of the static v lite. The fixed loop strap I put at the buckle at the knee, use the strap at shoulder. Both straps have 1 fixed and 1 movable buckle. Put them closer in colder westher, farther apart if you're warm. I am a relatively new quilt convert, was never happy in a bag. I LOVE my Revelation! ! So much customization! Down fill, degree, width and length, colors and 10d and 20d fabric . Getting the Apex Revelation for warmer weathet. The synthetic climashield version of the Revelation.
NJMevec
109
Mar 3, 2017
ShmeledTruthfully depends. I go into the ADKs and it can go to the high thirties in summer so that's the weather I'm used to sleeping in. Don't have any quilt experience til this thing gets here but I use a 40° bag when I'm out in summer with just some EMS pants (super breathable and wicking) and a long sleeve shirt on. I feel like the 20° quilt will be perfect even if there are some drafts.
Shmeled
1
Mar 3, 2017
NJMevecTrying to figure out if my 1.4 rvalue will be good enough with it... Aroubd 30° it was fine with my rab 20°...but in a quilt it seems the pad is a big matter. Any ideas?
Vajtagal
290
Mar 5, 2017
ShmeledThe how comfortable you are with the degree quilt depends a lot on you. Women tend to sleep colder than men, ie a 20° quilt might be fine for a guy on that 20° night, but the same age body type woman would find she needed a 10 ° quilt. If you know you sleep warm or cold it helps. You can layer under a quilt just like in a bag. Zip up the foot box, cinch the drawcord. A 20° quilt would do me fine on 30° nights. Also, your sleeping pad plays a big role. Using a pad with a 1.3 r value in 30° weather will leave you freezing no matter how warm the pad. I have a pad with a 4.4 r value and my 30° EE quilt for most situations. I can vent the quilt as well as snug it up.
Vajtagal
290
Mar 5, 2017
VajtagalOops the bag not pad.
NJMevec
109
Mar 10, 2017
ShmeledYeah you'll want to buy an insulated mat. I use a Klymit Static V Inulated (25oz) and it's well worth the weight. I even use it in summer.