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Massdrop Path Convertible CR123 Pocket Flashlight

Massdrop Path Convertible CR123 Pocket Flashlight

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Hey Everyone, We’re excited to share with you all a new flashlight. This flashlight is our next step in our evolution for every day carry (also known as EDC) pocket lights. The Path convertible flashlight is the result of community engagement and development, and represents a further evolution from our line of AAA flashlights. The Massdrop AAA flashlight is discreet, and at 110 lumens it provides more than enough utility to justify the minimal pocket space it takes up. However, we heard that many members were looking for more power - so we stepped it up with the Vega, which offers 220 lumens - twice the power as AAA lights - when running on AA alkaline batteries, but performs best with rechargeable 14500 Li-Ion cells, offering up to 650 lumens on Turbo mode. While this was a big step up from the alkaline-only AAA lights, we knew that many enthusiasts were still looking for bigger and brighter. And so began development of the Path. The goal was to develop a flashlight that offered 1000+ lumens in a pocketable body, which could be used with two CR123s for maximum runtime, or one CR123 to keep it smaller and lighter. Our first prototype of the Path was done in several milling options. The idea was to have an EDC flashlight with sections featuring different patterns that could be swapped around to make hundreds of possible combinations. The original design had thick enough walls to allow for multiple milling variations to improve grip all throughout each part of the flashlight. This lead to very interesting combinations of materials and milling patterns to mix and match but left us with a large and heavy flashlight. The trouble here was that we had a flashlight that was a good concept but had too much heft and was a bit too unpocketable. This is where the survey helped change the direction we had. Late last year we sent out a survey asking what features, weight, size, machining, and more that you’d all expect from a flashlight and we learned a few things. First, when offered the different patterns that were adding to the bulk of the light, members universally preferred the knurling pattern that is featured on the prior Massdrop AAA and AA lights. That led to an easy decision, so we reduced the diameter by over 11% and with it reduced the weight by about 30%. Working with our engineers, we further reduced the weight by milling out material from the inside of the tube on the portions between the threading, resulting in a total weight reduction of 46%! We’re very grateful for this community and the feedback we get from you all. Together we’re able to produce designs and products that meet and exceeds the expectations you all have. We’re hopeful you find this flashlight a key part of your everyday carry and we look forward to your future participation in design surveys. These help us make the product that you want. The Path is a flashlight for you to make your own - whether that be the need for a small compact carry, to a beam of light, or just a beautifully patinaed copper and/or brass EDC flashlight. The Path you choose is up to you.
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mike.j
Titanium version when?
Crap, gonna have to get in on the second wave of these.
Omniseed
"Second wave"? Let's see if they actually listened to the community next time. This time, despite a "survey" of the community, Massdrop ended up simply making a flashlight that satisfied Massdrop. I really wonder how many of the 179 they sold were to folks who simple decided to settle for what Massdrop offered instead of what was initially promised. I was fully prepared to buy at least two if the promised textures and 18650 functionality had come to fruition. But in this case a complete pass like so many others here below. Can you imagine the hundreds they would have sold if Massdrop hadn't gotten squeamish about a little weight (which is their sole argument as to why the 18650 battery and other textures didn't survive beyond the community survey). I just bought a solid copper Olight M2R for almost $100. 9.7 oz in weight. I'm completely delighted with it and have no regrets. What was Massdrop so afraid of? (Eye Role here)
CONS: No moonlight, XPL, low CRI, no memory, no hidden strobes/turbo, simple design, no stainless steel/titanium. I don't want it.
KKska
I've got a natural white XPL in the Vega AA Massdrop light, and it's good. Not exactly as warm as the Nichia emitters, but it's damn near the same brightness as the regular Cree emitters. There's room for both, but I don't know if I still prefer Nichia emitters anymore. Strobe and moonlight modes plus a titanium version would make it a must-buy if the price is ok. I'm still probably going to get one for when I don't feel like carrying one of my Pineapples or the Vega.
I read the email about making my own flash light and I immediately wondered if I had the right size iron pipe lying around. Such excitement!!!! I knew I would probably have to pick up a new cutter for my threader. I clicked on see the drop and BOY O BOY, was I disappointed. This has nothing to do with making my own flash light. It reminded me of the old Burger King commercial about having it my own way. I wouldn't bring in extra tomatoes or some beef and have them cook it. No. I would just order it how I liked it. That is exactly what is going on here. Click bait? I think so. It looks like I'll have to stick with the nameless 300 lumen flashlight that I found in a ceiling when I was replacing some damaged acoustic tiles. Life is filled with ups and downs.
Lump in some rechargeable CR123s and a charger and I'd consider it. Picked up the Reylight Pineapple a few months ago for like, $35. It's damn near about as powerful with a single 14500.
Kilsimiv
The Pineapple is awesome, the only thing I'd like is a better-fitted click switch, they have enough wiggle that it feels like a weakness in an otherwise well built light. And maybe a clip redesign that does away with the 90° angled thin steel strut. Just something to make it less likely to bend outward.
How about making it my own by having an end cap that supports no modes? Or just one mode selectable with a DIP switch or something.
Can someone explain why a brass or copper flashlight? I really just don't get it. Neither material are superior for a structural application vs Al/Ti. Is it just for bling? If this was Ti, or even Al, I'd probably get it. The deep carry is nicely done.
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jchaps
.......and we have a winner!
jchaps
Heat sinking, and it's a pretty enough material that people like and that isn't terribly high-tech, aka plenty available and reasonably priced.
The copper flashlight body coated or not ? I like coated copper body. Flashlight use 18650 battery is a bonus point...
If you buy two of these, can you run it with 3 CR123s?
To bad none of their flashlights come with a 1 lumen or .5 lumen mode. Specially their AAA flashlight being that they take pride on how long it can last on a AAA
Very neat design, but I still will have to take hard pass, for now. Might have to eat my words when the new designs come out. IMO, this is something that could've turned into a very good product, but falls flat on many levels as a flashlight. First off, needs a firefly mode, switching out batteries is a huge pain and anyone carrying a dedicated flashlight probably has a mild compulsion to use the least amount of power as possible to get the job done. Second, I think that Massdrop has taken wayyyyy too many customer suggestions, and should have tried to create a more unique design. Third, I don't care for the modularity. I would've liked to see an option for buying of 1 section, or 2 sections, or multiple different bodies. This will enable the buyer to more easily exchange parts in the future, or from a personal standpoint, buy 2 smaller flashlights. I don't want an extra segment of flashlight I won't use, but can't throw away. I have enough clutter as it is. But to end on a good note, this flashlight contains some great features, even without the modularity: Cu/Brass are often overlooked in place of Ti and Al, the pocket clip is awesome, titanium button allows easy color modifications, and has an LED option (which is often overlooked, and something I greatly appreciate). Definitely not pre-ordering, but definitely eagerly waiting for the next iteration for this drop, with additional options (hopefully Ti, and additional knurling patterns).
No first run production perks. Bummer
So we have a choice between yellow (“neutral”) and green (“cool white”) tints? WTF?
If it takes an 18650, I'm interested.
dcardenal
Yeah, I'm not really into CR123 lights either. I would prefer an 18650/18350 configuration.
Jonas & Mike, forgive me for beating this dead horse, however Massdrop presented a concept in the survey back in Sept, but delivered something different than what the survey implied would be the result.
  • Path is a custom-style EDC Flashlight made from copper or brass which can utilize both 18650 and CR123 batteries.…In the larger configuration, it is powered by an 18650 or two CR123 batteries. In the short configuration, it is powered by one CR123.
  • The Path will be offered in four surface treatments. Tell us what you think by dragging them into the appropriate areas. (I’d Buy It / It’s Cool Buy I Wouldn’t Buy It / Undesirable) Note: Each of the “areas” could accept multiple entries. 
  • Would you buy multiple Paths to mix and match materials/surface treatments? (Yes / No) [What was the point of that question if you weren’t going to offer multiple “surface treatments”?]
You can see all of the cries for 18650 support in the comments here. Massdrop lead us to believe this would be a given. It wasn’t.  “The Path will be offered in four surface treatments.” It was never assumed that this was a lottery for the most popular design. We were asked to sort favorite to least favorite. Ok, knurled was the most popular if you look at it as a single-winner survey. But that’s not what this was supposed to be. Just because some rated knurled as their most desirable doesn’t mean that they wanted all of the other options to disappear (Note that “I’d Buy It” could accept multiple entries. That some patterns landed 2nd doesn’t mean we weren’t interested in them.) You switched a survey asking which patterns we would like to pair with knurled to a ‘which is most popular’ survey and that’s not what participants were saying when they sorted the textures as they did. Of course, back then, the survey was about a future product. You obviously had prototypes in hand. Naturally you want it to be easy and less expensive to manufacture. And, it happens, plans change. Ok, we get all of that. But, you can also understand where we are coming from when we express disappointment that we were made to expect one thing, but got less than what was initially described.
So if you buy 2 and this thing is modular could you extend it to 3 or 4 cr123's? O 6 or 8? You see where I'm going is there a load cap on the led?
Jax1
oh that's a very good question
I would be all over this if it was 18650, that's what I initially thought it was. I don't personally like cr123 batteries, I prefer a more common battery. The 18650 is very common in the vaping communities so they are easily attainable and have a ton of power.
Badazzelanore
18650's are no more common than CR123's and weredeveloped after the 123's came out.
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sygyzy
Point stipulated, lol. My post was unclear, I meant more common to me, I vape so I have 18650's and chargers readily available and I don't want to add another battery/charger.
Can this thing use 18350’s stacked or an 18650? Can it use a 16340 or two of those stacked? What are the mode options and is it programmable?
Where's the Voltage / Amperage specs? CR123 primary's are 3V, and same size as a 16340 4.2V. Will 2 fry it? Also there is a 16650 to cover 4.2V for 2 battery size set up. For RCR123 rechargeables, look for LiFePo4 3V (3.2V).
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Please no XPL here!!! Samsung LH351D HiCRI 4000K or 5000K.
It's Eagletac D25C Ti in copper? 2xCR123 is for difference only? Add 2x18350 and 18650. Buck/boost driver? Default mode choice? Switchable memory? Low-low mode (moonlight)? Direct access (2 click) to turbo? Direct access to strobe-beacons (3 click)?
Alardf
Well it's obviously not the same light or construction, and the manufacturer is named as 'Vega', so it seems like you might be mistaken.
No rechargeable option, no memory, no money.
ponagathos
Although I might have still had some interest if those other texture options were actually available.
Diameter?
Well heck. I woke up this morning thinking, "I think I need at least one....more..... flashlight"!!! 😬😂 The concept is kind of intriguing. I am interested in a new 123 with a little more traction than my Torpedo 007 (actually has less than zero traction). But personally, if I were more inclined to mostly be using 2x cr123's, I'd probably just stick with the Prince in 18650 (also 2x cr123).
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The modular design is kind of cool, but there are already a ton of available flashlights with similar outputs and better UIs, many available for less than this. The addition of a moonlight mode would be a huge improvement that I can't believe was overlooked. 30 lumens for low is pretty bright for a lot of applications. I really liked the massdrop AAA flashlights and was really hoping for more out of this one.
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I'm not sure I understand your reply. The best car comparison I can come up with is the DeLorean. All the thought/budget went into the outside of this light and zero thought/budget went into the guts
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IanEDC
A replica jaguar is a look back, a delorean is trying too hard to be modern, so not a good comparison. The path is a bit retro. The Path only have metals showing, i do not like plasticks or rubber part showing. (I like a tail-switch also and a solo emitter) The path is entirely non-tactical, which is good. So, yes I do not look only on the lumens. People complain about getting burns from the Emisar D4 because it runs so hot when producing those 3400 lumens. I do not need my flashlight to set fire to anything. I EDC the Lumintop TOOL Titanium AAA Cree XP-G2 R5 Cool White 110lumen, so the 1000lumen these will produce is a bit overkill for my uses and is one of the reasons I am holding back so far....Which is a long way to say we two might just possibly be looking for different things in a flashlight ;-)
30 lumens on low is petty high. I would have like to have seen a moonlight mode 1-2 lumens max. Looks good but those types of clips can bend easily. Would like to see a screw in clip. Perhaps the next round. Keep coming up with products Massdrop!
Goofy and useless come to mind. I also worry about its multiple parts. I am quite sure that I would lose some. It's easy to say bad things about this. I am about to order a FF Gent and won't have any extra money. I watched a bunch of reviews and they were all very impressed with this knife. Of course, I am sure that someone will point out that if I had a flashlight or attached a tritium key pos, or is that fob?, to it that I could find it when I dropped it in the dark. After coming to terms with my FF Falcon, I can say that I have really liked all the knives that I have purchased here. (Maybe Jonas will remember me in his prayers. Or give me a discount on something. Or maybe not. I realize that I am on the caustic side.) I have come to terms with the fact that I can't take my money with me when I die, but it seems so unfair that I won't be able to take any of my knives. I still find it hard to believe that I wandered here because it was mentioned in a knife discussion group. Little did I know that MD would be invading my wallet. St. Peter doncha' call me 'cause I can't go. I owe my cash to the MassDroppy Store. (I have no doubts that I have offended some with this post. Let me be the first to apologize.)
what brass and what copper is being used?
Love the way it looks and that you can use one to two CR123's. What I really like is the fact that you can mix and match the copper and brass! What I hate is that you have to spend 120.00 bucks to be able to mix and match. That is unless Massdrop allows you to buy it mixed?
Anything like Nichia or Luminus LED's beside those green tint XPL's?