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Massdrop Pine Down Blanket
Massdrop Pine Down Blanket
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Down Quilts and Blankets have appeared in Massdrop Polls since the very first days of the Ultralight Community in Fall of 2014. The polls have consistently been some of the most popular, resulting in super successful drops from the likes of Enlightened Equipment, Zpacks, Rumpl and more.
At it's heart, this is the best down blanket we could make for you. It's roughly the size of a Twin XL mattress, and it would look perfectly lovely on your bed or couch. Secretly, there are a few snaps and hidden cords that can transform this into a sleeping quilt for camping or traveling.
What's special about our down blanket?
1) Comfort. We spent nearly a year finding the best downproof fabric that was both light and SOFT. When you cozy up to this on your couch or in your cabin, we wanted you first impression to be one of luxurious lightness. We didn't want you thinking that this is a really techy product with shiny plasticky fabric. You can be assured that this fabric is high performance, but it doesn't need to *feel* that way.
2) Versatility. It's a blanket, it's a quilt, and it's possibly so much more*.
3) Best-in-class materials. We want you to feel confident that you're getting a high-end product, and so we started with the best raw materials we could find. The HyperDRY down was developed by The North Face and is the benchmark for quality down. It is Responsibly Down Source (RDS) Certified, bluesign approved, fluorocarbon free (a nasty chemical that was used in earlier hydrophobic downs), and allergen free. This 850 fill power down is very light for the amount of insulation it provides, and will last 10-30 years under normal use and care. The fabric is calendared for downproofness and matte finish and soft hand make it feel more like a comforter than a shiny sleeping bag.
4) Maximized value. By paying special attention to the design, we were able to achieve the maximum warmth to weight ratio. The sewn-through baffles are the lightest and most affordable, so we used tons of down, wide baffle spacing to allow peak loft, and minimal baffling to make a very thick blanket. We added one mid-blanket baffle to keep down from shifting in the long vertical baffles, and otherwise kept the baffles (the low point / potential cold spot in the blanket) to an absolute minimum. Going with 850 fill achieved our goal for weight, warmth, and durability. Moving up to 900 fill would have increased your cost 2-3x and saved maybe an ounce.
A few more thoughts.
Temp rating - Generally, a blanket or quilt with sewn through baffles will be warm down to 40-50F. However, this has 2" of loft, which would put it comparitavely at 30F according to EE and Zpacks. Also, Patagonia has a sewn-through sleeping bag that they rated at 30F. So without testing, I am fairly confident that this would keep men warm down to 40F and women to 45-50F, though it really depends on who you are, how you use it, and what other products you're using, like your sleeping pad and shelter.
Stuff sack - This comes with a stuff sack, though we intentionally designed it a little big to make it easy to stuff your blanket into it. It will definitely fit a smaller sack, likely down to 8 or 10 liters. If you're storing this for a long time, it's best to store it in a large sack, a cotton pillow case, hanging in the closet, or just out on your couch so you can use it everyday!
Design - This is a blanket first, and a quilt second. If you want the best high-performance quilt, then I would point you to Enlightened Equipment or many other small American manufacturers. I make this statement because something like the EE Revelation has a better footbox, more options for securing around your sleeping pad, and tapered area around your leg (which will keep you warmer, all else being equal). So, it's a better quilt. However, it would look a bit funny on your bed, it wouldn't feel as comfy on your couch, and the tapered leg area could be confined to some. Additionally, those quilts cost 2-3x as much.
Temp rating - Generally, a blanket or quilt with sewn through baffles will be sufficiently warm down to 40-50F. However, this has 2" of loft, which would put it comparatively at 30F according to EE and Zpacks. Also, Patagonia has a sewn-through sleeping bag that they rated at 30F. So without testing, I am fairly confident that this would keep men warm down to 40F and women to 50F, though it really depends on who you are, how you use it, and what other products you're using, like your sleeping pad and shelter.
Length - Yeah, it's long! I'm 6'0" and I hate it when my toes just stick out of a blanket or off a mat. My brothers are all taller and this happens to them all the time. I read so many comments from our members that we need to have a longer pad, a tent that fits tall people, or size 14+ shoes. I hear you, and this is 86" long. If you're not as tall, then you just have more blanket to snuggle around your shoulders.
I'm really interested to hear what you plan on using this for. I've already been using one on my couch at home. We keep our house at 60 F in the winter, and this has been perfect for covering the whole family while we read books before bed. I've also used it alone on my bed and backpacking. What are your ideas?
*As for the DIY / MYOG person, I definitely had you in mind while designing this. The value of the raw goods, if bought elsewhere, is more than we're selling it for here. I've already been working with Aaron Sorensen on ideas (he's known for modding Costco Down Throws). With a little cutting or sewing, you could make this into your dream quilt with tapered legs. Maybe add a #3 zipper and turn it into a sleeping bag. Sew two together and it's a California King size blanket. Layer two together and it could be a 10F blanket. Cut it in half and make it into two underquits for hammock camping. Turn it into a pair of quilts for toddlers. What else? You tell me! In fact, I'm going to start a Talk page specifically for sharing ideas on altering this blanket:
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I am mainly interested in a cheaper but lightweight alternative to the enlightened equipment accomplice quilt. The feature to open it up like a blanket for warmer weather would be nice though. I would not make it quite so long as the original to save weight. It would be nice if it fit into the 30° sweet spot for an all around temp. So a little more fill than the original. I personally wouldn't be opposed to toggles but most of the quilts of this type use snaps that can also be replaced with a little know-how. The accomplice is very expensive but is one of the only options of the type so this would sell very well I'd guess.
Very cool idea and I will look into this for sure! Great suggestions and if you ever want to talk further about this or other concepts, feel free to email me at email@example.com !
What bird is the down sourced from?(This should be PROMINENT in the description)!!!
Question ... Is the outer material noisy when moving? Could this quilt be used on a bed without too much noise? Cotton and linen bedding is not too noisy but nylon sleeping bags are usually annoyingly noisy.
Thanks in advance
The Massdrop Pine Down Blanket has arrived at our warehouse and the team is now wrapping up quality control checks. We’re on track to meet our estimated ship date of May 22.
We’re looking forward to you receiving the first production of the Pine Blanket!
Awesome news ! Thanks !
Make a baffle version please!
Got 2, 95.00 Canadian in duties
I just received mine today, for a single one I got $43 in duties. That is insane.
I also got my Apogee Takumi today (
) and it was $52 in duties.
I have ordered from Massdrop before, often no COD, or a small COD, but this is ridiculous, i don't think i will be making orders again until they get their shipping sorted.
would this work if I layed this on top on my existing 20 degree quilt to take me to a lower Temp?
How small does this get when packed/compressed? Would be great to have a photo of it in a compression sack beside something else for reference like a nalgene or coke can
i am currently using this pine down blanket but would like to have another version with more down fill!
The down is currently too little and floats in the quilt creating cold spots.
Please make one with more down fill!
anyone using this as a hammock underquilt? i'm looking for one but most ''real'' hammock underquilts are much more expensive.
Many are suggesting this quilt be available in a colder temperature rating (ad other suggested mods which is great) yet never forget this is a sewn-thru, not a baffled sleeping quilt. I have found that a baffled construction is needed to reach even a true 40 degree bag. I submit this is a 50 degree bag as offered by many companies yet at a much reduced price. If you take this bag into the high country, even in Summer, consider packing additional clothing to reach Fall and Spring temperatures. The green color is certainly a breath of fresh air.
I really wish this came as a narrower product, or has horizontal baffles. with 10ozs of 850 fill down this could easily be a great 20-30 degree quilt if you could migrate all the down to just ontop of you. or would be a great quilt with the same temp rating if it had the same fill in a smaller package
How does one "re-fluff" these?
I use mine
and they become kind of "smushed" , would like to know the best strategy for pluffing them up again.
thanx and THANKS!!!!
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Yeah. Have you ever tried washing out a well-used sleeping bag? It's pretty disgusting.
I was with some guys who washed out their bags after a year of almost constant use (long distance cycle tourers). The water that came out on the first rinse looked like coffee.
I haven't and I don't look forward to that day, lol.
Is the down inside white or grey?
Would jump all over this if it were rated 20F (maybe even 30) and were a little smaller to make it similar weight. It seems that all of the drops for top-quilts are 40F+.
Does the lining have any DWR applied? If so, does the DWR contain any pfoas? Are there any other variations of this blanket as a sleeping bag or anything else coming soon? Thanks!
Yes there is a C6 water resistant coating so there are PFOAs. We are looking into options with added durability and possible size adjustments.
Do you have any specific requests for future iterations of this?
Came quickly in the mail. Wife took one look at it and told me it was going to be hers and I should have gotten two.
Story of my life with cool throws / blankets.
I hear you. I bought this to serve multiple duties...lightweight camping blanket alone, another down layer for cold weather camping, or general household use. Pleased with it so far. I'm here in the Smokys for a week vacation stay in a cabin. I brought the down blanket for early am/late pm time out on the deck. I used it once the first night....then my wife asked to "try it out". I haven't had a chance to get it back. Ordering another for me.
Just a heads up for Canadian buyers, as someone earlier has noted, taxes, duties, exchange, and customs fees bring this blanket up to about $195 CAD. Gotta say now that I've received mine, it's not really worth it.
Got my second one of these, absolutely LOVE them.
One alteration I might add;
a couple extra snaps down the side so that there's less gapping. either when done up as a tube, or when snapping two together.
I just paid 51.80CAD duties...that's insane on a chinese down blanket for 100$. Also I don't like the material and feel of it, it's kind of cheap crap really...well, not so cheap crap.
I grabbed the end of a roll of shock cord from REI (1/8" thick, I think) that was 15' long. I cut it in two and ran each cord through the long-side channels. It took about 15 minutes to slowly inch the cord through the channels and the hardest part was digging the end out of the far side.
I put cord toggles on the ends and rigged it up as an underquilt. I've only slept in it one night in my yard on a 60F night, but it was really nice. The wind didn't cut through and the extra length was luxurious. Tightening the cords on the short sides was fairly effective at closing up the gaps. I will need to work out a better way to rig the cords to my backpacking hammocks, but that was a really quick and easy mod.
I might try it as a topquilt tonight, to see how the footbox functions compared to my other quilts.
Bought this one.
Is it okay to apply water repelant products like Gear Aid or Nikwax just to add additional repelancy from condensation?
It's already been treated at the factory...?
I just received mine yesterday (green) and would be happy to sell it at a discounted price to anyone that wants to save a little money. Nothing against the blanket - It just isn't quite what I thought or was expecting it to be. The difference between this and my many costco blankets isn't enough for me to justify the $75 dollar price difference (it's nice that it's longer and has snaps and paracord but I mostly wanted it as a house/traveling blanket and I was expecting the material to be much softer/different than the Costco blankets, but at least to me it's not noticeably very different). Anyway, if anyone wants mine at a discount let me know.
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If you haven't sold it.....what kind of discount?
I would like to consider buying this from you. Is it still available these months later? How may we contact each other and make this deal happen. Thanks
Ummmm..... I'm feeling really weary about this purchase as it seems to good to be true!
$7 freight to Australia and posted on the day when payment is made..... What is this sorcery!?
Did you do it Ducman? Do you get an estimate for shipping time?
I purchased it and got it within 9 days! first ever super cheap delivery and speed from Massdrop lol.
Muzza from Australia, got the blanket and have tried in -1 c temp with thermals on and socks, so good I had to remove socks.
love this Product, well done Massdrop.
ps: no smells and press studs all ok, have added two bunge cord adjusters for a bit of sercurity And incorporated the massdrop Klymit pad.👍👍👍👍👍
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Thank you for the response. No worries on pictures. I don't have any experience DIY'ing quilts, but I am very DIY-minded. Right now I am considering this blanket/quilt and the HG Burrow Econ 40 quilt. Even on cooler nights (40-45 °F / 5-7 °C) I find a 40 and sometimes 60 degree bag during summer to be way too hot for me. I was considering this blanket, but some people are saying it is not wide enough to be a good quilt. I don't see how that can be unless they are BIG? I am 6'1" about 215 lbs and really on the fence here for this item.
Trying using tarp clips and thread shock cord through them. They work well and it can easily be taken on and off without much effort.
Just got my blanket and kinda love it. this is my first this kind of item. Could you give me some advices how to take care of if it, if i want it to last long? How to clean it for example? And how strong is this, how easy is it to tear it out?
Sorry for the delay! REI is a great resource for this:
Taken from this link: I would spot clean it as much as possible vs machine wash but if the quilt is very dirty and losing loft, you can machine wash.
How to machine wash a sleeping bag:
Most sleeping bags can be machine washed, as long as a front-loading washer (or top-loading machine without an agitator) is used. Keep in mind that some home front-loaders tend to be small and energy efficient, and may not give your bag enough room to tumble and clean thoroughly.)
Wash on the gentle cycle in warm (or cold) water with an appropriate soap. Again, use as little as possible to avoid over-sudsing.
Try adding some other damp articles that need washing, such as a towel or a couple of T-shirts, to help balance the spin of the machine.
To make sure all the soap residue is gone, rinse at least twice. Or run it a second time through a complete (soap-free) wash-and-rinse cycle.
Massdrop, I gotta say, you really killed it with this blanket. I couldn't be happier with quality, functionality, size, and warmth of it. One of these is plenty to cover my 6'3" 210lb body (which is rare in a "one size fits all" situation for me), yet it only weighs just over a pound. The nylon feels buttery smooth yet surprisingly strong, and I'm really impressed with the amount of loft this thing has. I haven't had a chance to test it outside on a trip yet, but using it inside on the couch this thing keeps me incredibly warm, yet breaths enough so I don't overheat (I run hot). I'm 99% sure this will be my new summer camping quilt. I love that if you own two they can be snapped together forming a SUPER BLANKET, and the hidden snaps and pull strings in the corners are a really nice touch.
I think my one complaint/suggestion would be that there is no zipper to help seal up the footbox if you choose to use it in that way. The snaps paired with the strings work well, but I really think adding a short zipper between the corners and first snaps would really elevate this blanket to a full on camping quilt/home throw blanket. I realize the zippers may affect the aesthetics, but I would think addings a small flap of nylon to cover it when not in use would be a great solution (similar to what you did in the corners with the snaps and toggles).
Overall though, you folks did a great job with this product and drop. I am thoroughly pleased with the blanket and really look forward to seeing what else you come out with.
Keep up the great work!
Part of the initial drop was that this was a modular quilt, meaning that if you wanted to add to the quilt with zippers you could. I think the lack of hardware helps keep it such a light weight.
Are there hanging loops in the corners? Would a person just need to come up with a suspension to use this as an underquilt? Or would it take further modification?
So I just received the two pines I ordered last week; right in time for a camping trip in a few weeks. I have to say I am pleasantly surprised at how fast they arrived as I'd been waiting on them to drop again for months.
That being said, I've been unable to even open them. Both downs reek. I mean utterly stink, they smell like whatever cheap down they were made from was never washed when it was removed from the birds before it was stuffed into the blankets. I'm kind of at a loss here, I own an american made EE revelation for colder conditions and was hoping these blankets would serve as a summer sleeping quilt in warmer conditions, given that MD has had solid quality on it's knives. I wasn't expecting that at $100 a piece the blankets would come in smelling like bird droppings to the point where they're unsable. Needless to say I am thoroughly disappointed with MD on this one.
8/20/2018 Update: So after a few emails with massdrop concerning the questionable Pines, (followed by life getting busy and me leaving them in my closet for a bit before following up with MD) my previous Pines have been returned and I have received new Pines. One has a faint birdy smell (not enough to be an issue) and the other is odorless. Success! Big shoutout to the MD community support team, Gwen and Tony V responded promptly, were very professional and made the return process painless. Major props to MD for having such a solid team.
After I get the chance to use my Pines I'll throw up a review! Here's to adventures, without Fowl (Which came first, the review or the terrible pun?) play!
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Dannymilks is no longer at Massdrop, but here's what I suggest:
1. Click on the person icon in upper left corner of screen.
2. Click on "Transactions" from the list
3. Click on the "Delivered" tab
4. Scroll through the list until you find the Massdrop Pine Down Blanket
5. Scroll to the bottom of that delivered deop info, there should be at least two options, "Receipt" and "Contact Support"
6. Click "Contact Support"
7. On the new page, confirm Massdrop has your correct email. You will see they have autofilled your order number. Select the most relevant options from the drop down list (like, either defective or item arrived not as expected).
This will get the customer support conversion going for you. Since this is an in stock item now, I imagine they should be able to help you fairly quickly. My experience with Massdrop Support has been overall positive. Good luck & hope this helps :-)
Mine also doesn't have any smell.
Does anybody know if this can be packed down very small for bikepacking / backpacking as a quilt?
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