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HarisFianos
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Dec 13, 2017
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Problem with the sound.
I received mine today, after a good five probably more months of waiting and to be honest, i plugged them on my Ipad for starters, it was so low volume i could hear my fingers snap or any background noise, tried them on my mac and i downloaded a boost app, then all hell broke lose, i can turn them so loud that all base is basically distorted to a point that i think it will rip the actual woofer apart, is this normal, i was expecting to be able have them on full blast indoors and have a huge sound, i have better quality audio with my apple airpods, first expensive headphone i bought and it's such a bummer i don't know if they worth their money.
DrMEB
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Dec 13, 2017
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HarisFianosIt sounds like you need an amp. These cans are harder to drive than many. The boost app you are referring to is probably distorting the output from your mac's sound card.
emthered
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Dec 13, 2017
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HarisFianosYes, you should be aware that these headphones are somewhat hard to drive. They really need a decent amp. But there are several small portable amps that work very well like Cayin C5 or the Fiio models that you could try.
DinoJoe
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Dec 13, 2017
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HarisFianosyou need a headphone amp, or a device which has an ability to drive headphones (looking at the Marantz SA8005, it has a specific headphone amp).
E111
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Dec 13, 2017
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HarisFianosYou need a DAC/amp for them to go loud and clear, onboard soundcards and ipods can get them loud enough, but that's about it.
Also you should be able to hear your fingers snap, these are open back, unless you wanna listen to them at levels that will damage your eardrums overtime
chuckolatte
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Dec 14, 2017
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E111omg when I saw this comment, I started to get scared that I was listening to mine too loud. Thankfully, I can hear my snaps lol
ProfessorPat
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Dec 14, 2017
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HarisFianosAt my listening volume (which I'm sure is louder than an iPad will push these), with these on my head right now, I can hear my keyboard over the music at times. I don't have a loud keyboard by any means. Fingers snapping are easy to hear over these things at sensible levels. That's just an open headphone thing. That said, an iPad isn't a very powerful output, and while the macbook surely has more power, it's likely not enough still, and software amplification isn't going to help you.
If you take a weak amp, and feed it a signal that reaches its full input sensitivity, it will output a weak signal. If you boost the input, you get the same weak output, but now with horrible distortion. Grab an amp with some actual power and you'll solve this problem. As mentioned, even cheaper offerings will help with the biggest issue you have, which is purely lacking power. Better amplifiers will net better sound through these though once you've overcome the lack of power issue.
If you take a weak amp, and feed it a signal that reaches its full input sensitivity, it will output a weak signal. If you boost the input, you get the same weak output, but now with horrible distortion. Grab an amp with some actual power and you'll solve this problem. As mentioned, even cheaper offerings will help with the biggest issue you have, which is purely lacking power. Better amplifiers will net better sound through these though once you've overcome the lack of power issue.
Barugi
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Dec 14, 2017
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HarisFianosThese are 300 ohms headphone, the airpods is probably around 15 ohms. You need an headphone amp. Ipads and other portable devices does not have enough power to drive this to enjoyable levels.
HarisFianos
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Dec 14, 2017
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BarugiI just didn’t realize and wasn’t indicated anywhere that these where some short of phantom operated headphones, i was under the impression that the only difference from A conventional over the ear bose or beats is the fact that its open and has bit of a sound leakag.
ProfessorPat
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Dec 14, 2017
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HarisFianosA speaker is essentially a motor. Different motors require different amounts of power. You're obviously not going to run a Tesla Roadster on the same power as an electric toothbrush. It's all physics. You have to supply enough power to make the motor work. This is not a tiny little earbud driver or something designed to run on portable equipment, so the expectation of the designers is not to supply it with the power that devices meant for those drivers output.
This type of difference is extremely common in full sized speakers as well. An Infinity Kappa 9 will destroy a lot of amplifiers. A Klipschhorn will run on almost anything. Knowing a bit about the speakers will tell you what you need. When getting better gear, it usually requires a little bit of research as to what you need to make it shine.
This type of difference is extremely common in full sized speakers as well. An Infinity Kappa 9 will destroy a lot of amplifiers. A Klipschhorn will run on almost anything. Knowing a bit about the speakers will tell you what you need. When getting better gear, it usually requires a little bit of research as to what you need to make it shine.
FrostyP
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Dec 15, 2017
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HarisFianosThese are designed for listening at home plugged into a powerful amplifier, while Bose and Beats are designed for portable use and being wireless they have amplifiers built into them. The HD6XX is actually a really good headphone to introduce you to this aspect of audio gear, as they sound decent on most things already and keep getting better as you go up.
I'd suggest starting with a Schiit (yes it's pronounced like you think it is) Magni 3 and Modi 2
I'd suggest starting with a Schiit (yes it's pronounced like you think it is) Magni 3 and Modi 2
p0och
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Dec 16, 2017
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FrostyPThe magni 3 is essentially the magni 2 uber with power close enough to not be differentiated by a blind test. I’d encourage anyone to have a comparison on the various outputs between the 2 versions to realise this. That said - I’d recommend getting the magni2 uber if someone is getting rid of it cheap or if schiit is clearing them out. They’re identical as far as the specs go.
ProfessorPat
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Dec 16, 2017
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p0ochThey’re not identical as far as specs go. The Magni 3 has more power and lower distortion. The differences are very small if you don’t need the extra power, but they’re certainly not identical. Schiit cleared out the 2s a long time ago now, so used is an option, but a used 3 is an option too at that point.
FrostyP
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Dec 16, 2017
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p0ochAre you accusing schiit of lying about the specs? The Magni 3 is significantly more powerful than the Magni 2
Get this reddit nonsense out of here
Get this reddit nonsense out of here
ProfessorPat
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Dec 16, 2017
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p0ochI get that you're saying they're similar, but your last sentence is, "They're identical as far as the specs go" which is wrong. Your failure to grasp the meaning of identical does not make me a fanboy.
As I said before, "The differences are very small if you don’t need the extra power, but they’re certainly not identical."
As I said before, "The differences are very small if you don’t need the extra power, but they’re certainly not identical."
p0och
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Sep 6, 2018
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ProfessorPatThis reply may come across as a late reply - but for the benefit of anyone reading this - enough tme has passed for reviews and personal comps to be made .
I concede that my staements at that time come across as unfounded and erudite.
but - as you've rightly pointed out the difference is a slight increase in power. My q would be that is the slight tweak material? i.e. were there some known issues within the uber which required a small but significant tweak to call it a perfect product?
the reviews see to indicate so and the pricing certainly is attractive for what it can do. (but then again the uber was priced similiarly)
there is however a inherent tweak within the model that is not a flaw but requires the owner to really spend sometime tweaking something that is perhaps the Apple equivalent of amps (i.e. works perfect out of the box)
the following review indicates that Schiit has at least met the expectations. However the "flaw" makes me wonder if the new version is actually better than the uber 2.
tldr if the uber 2 was still in production would there be enough justification to buy the magni3?
I concede that my staements at that time come across as unfounded and erudite.
but - as you've rightly pointed out the difference is a slight increase in power. My q would be that is the slight tweak material? i.e. were there some known issues within the uber which required a small but significant tweak to call it a perfect product?
the reviews see to indicate so and the pricing certainly is attractive for what it can do. (but then again the uber was priced similiarly)
there is however a inherent tweak within the model that is not a flaw but requires the owner to really spend sometime tweaking something that is perhaps the Apple equivalent of amps (i.e. works perfect out of the box)
the following review indicates that Schiit has at least met the expectations. However the "flaw" makes me wonder if the new version is actually better than the uber 2.
tldr if the uber 2 was still in production would there be enough justification to buy the magni3?
ProfessorPat
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Sep 7, 2018
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p0ochAs far as I could find, the 3 isn’t much different from the 2U in power, but it wasn’t the same price. Is the 3 a worthwhile upgrade from the 2U? Almost definitely no, but if you had neither, and both were available as new stock, the 3 is priced lower than the 2U was. The similarities are probably enough to say the 2U is pointless given the existence of the 3.
Honestly though, most good amps have a sound of their own, whether that is significant or not, and if this $100 amp doesn’t do it for you, there are a lot of others at this budget and others that allow for you to find that sound you actually want.
Me, I don’t really like Schiit’s usual sound. The multibits are supposed to be closer to my tastes, but even so, there are plenty of alternatives that are likely to hit the mark more consistently. The, as you said, Apple option, is something many stray from when they‘re trying to meet more discerning tastes. Schiit’s entry level is certainly not going to be to everyone’s tastes.
Honestly though, most good amps have a sound of their own, whether that is significant or not, and if this $100 amp doesn’t do it for you, there are a lot of others at this budget and others that allow for you to find that sound you actually want.
Me, I don’t really like Schiit’s usual sound. The multibits are supposed to be closer to my tastes, but even so, there are plenty of alternatives that are likely to hit the mark more consistently. The, as you said, Apple option, is something many stray from when they‘re trying to meet more discerning tastes. Schiit’s entry level is certainly not going to be to everyone’s tastes.
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