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Hey Everyone, thanks for coming to our announcement for the Vast, Massdrop’s gaming monitor. If you read through the monitor sections of any gaming forum, you’ll find a consistent request: Give me the most desirable resolution (used to be 2560x1440, now it’s 3440x1440, once GFX cards catch up it’ll go to 4k I’m sure), with a refresh rate at 100hz+, and a response time below 4ms (g2g). There are other important specifications of course (none of that matters if the color reproduction is garbage or you’ve got massive back-light bleed), but assuming everything else follows the accepted standards, this is the holy trinity, and price points hover around the $1000 mark. Why do they cost so much? Monopoly. LG and Samsung own a patent on IPS technology, and they’ve invested hundreds of millions of dollars telling the american market that this is the only panel technology for high-end displays. Electronics retailers buy into this monopoly, because it works well for all parties involved. The manufacturers come out with the new desirable version every year, spends millions marketing them, the retailers have contracts committing them to a certain number of units, and the product sells itself. In short, everyone is comfortable making money, and they don’t want to rock the IPS boat, so why would they utilize another panel technology to solve the problems of the gaming community? They wouldn’t, that’s why we exist. On a sourcing trip last year we met with a number of monitor manufacturers and panel makers. AU Optronics was among those we spoke to and in our meeting they told us about a new kind of panel called VA. Now, it’s not new in the sense of technology that’s never been seen before, but a new refinement on VA technology that allows for 100% sRGB coverage, while hitting our targets for refresh rate, resolution, and response time. Additionally, VA panels have greater contrast than any panel type including IPS, which is valuable if you’re tired of backlight bleed in a dark room. If you google VA panels, you’ll find nearly none in the american market, and you’ll find generally limited information, or information from dubious sources. Why? Goes back to the monopoly point, retailers want a product that’s easy to sell, not a product that’s the best. If I’m Newegg and I know LG is going to spend $50mm advertising their products on american television this year, and AU Optronics is going to spend $0, those LG’s are going to be a lot easier to sell. We’re not banking on marketing spend, we’re banking on the quality + performance, and the enthusiast community not falling for advertising. From the specs to the industrial design, we’re incredibly proud of the Vast, and we hope gamers enjoy it. But while we designed it for gamers, at the introductory $549.99 shipped, we hope anyone that uses a computer all day can enjoy the immersive visual experience that comes from this combination of resolution, refresh rate, response time, sRGB coverage, and 1800R curve. Thanks for your interest in this product, I’ll be around the discussion to answer questions over the next couple days and I’ll make a new post prior to the launch with the most popular questions + answers.
WillHey mate, if I was trying to sell this myself I think I would mention freesync more obviously than just the bullet points at the bottom. Just a friendly suggestion =]
Hadtomakeausernameoh yea, got freesync as well folks : )
Thanks for calling that out. Do you have any thoughts about where we could work it into the description?
Codexe
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Sep 15, 2017
WillMost monitors that have either gsync or freesync have it listed in the title
ZZ_UPenn
257
Sep 15, 2017
WillWhat is the warranty?
WillNo worries fella, as Codexe has said it would make sense to have it in the title, but I'm not sure how well it would fit in with the current one. Perhaps you could list some of the important specs that people look for afterwards, possibly in parentheses and include it in there. Stuff like refresh rate, panel type etc.
Also with regards to the description I would probably just mention it anywhere that you refer to refresh rate as that seems most relevant.
Brainless
4
Sep 15, 2017
Will...watching a movie, or simply browsing. AMD Freesync technology synchronizes output of your AMD GPU to the screen refresh rate, eliminating any vertical tearing for an incredibly smooth gaming experience. Thanks to the strong 1800R curvature ...
BrainlessWe're real quick
ZZ_UPennListed on the page
Brainless
4
Sep 15, 2017
WillMassdrop ninjas :) Any info whether it'll ship to Canada?
BrainlessShipping to Canada costs $100, seems like that'd kill the desirability for most.
blahhh
130
Sep 15, 2017
WillCause there are a lot of 3440x1440 100hz monitors for $650 USD available in Canada?
I just wish MD would do G-sync version...
JeffG
85
Sep 15, 2017
WillWhat's the warranty and dead pixel policy?
JeffGWarranty is listed on the page, these monitors are pixel perfect, any dead pixels are cause for a support inquiry.
JeffG
85
Sep 15, 2017
WillThanks!
BagelBytes
46
Sep 15, 2017
WillPixel perfect 1440p 100hz 35" ultrawide with an adjustable stand and vesa compatible for $550? If there were independent reviews for this monitor, this would be 100% the best ultrawide monitor deal anywhere. Do you know which exact VA panel is in this monitor?
sethgc
12
Sep 15, 2017
WillCertainly looks interesting :)
Any idea of a rough shipping date or a limit on quantities?
Sanuku
15
Sep 16, 2017
WillWill, if you find the time could you look into if it would be possible to get the same Screen with G-Sync too? I and many others are too probably are well aware that $550 wouldn`t be possible with G-Sync included but I would like to know if your current manufacturer would at least have the option for it too.
I have nothing against Free-Sync at all but I am kinda working with G-Sync since Day One so it would be nice to have an Option to get the Screen with it.
Thanks in advance.
Quimet93
51
Sep 16, 2017
Sanuku200$ for G-Sync at least. Just get a better GPU and forget about that G-Sync/Free sync.
Spastek
13
Sep 16, 2017
Quimet93GSYNC and FreeSYNC are also only good at lower FPS. This video does an excellent job of explaining why. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjWSRTYV8e0
zypherion
242
Sep 16, 2017
WillGonna jump on the g-sync wagon too.. I have two decent computers that could benefit from a monitor upgrade and both are sporting Nvidia cards.
If it's truly a market thing then offer both and see which gets the most votes -or- work with a manufacturer who let's you offer the module as an upgrade option for the drop.
zaphrodbox
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Sep 16, 2017
WillI'm interested to know more. So teach us, what is VA panel tech and how does it work and who is AU Optronics? Are small children assembling this 24 hours a day? If dubious info is all I will find then give me the real deal and I will most certainly invest in this monitor in G-V-or all sync options possible. Thanks for the interesting and hopefully great panel I look forward to hearing more about it.
tangman
8
Sep 16, 2017
SpastekNice video!
It's why I stopped caring about GSync/FreeSync, knowing that my goal is to run games at high FPS. Yet lots of folks seem to still care about it.
I switched my focus to motion blur reduction, after reading about how effective it is. It's why I bought a LG 34UC79G, because it has that motion blur reduction feature without the price tag of GSync/ULMB. In the motion blur department, it's not perfect, but it's a vast improvement over my previous 35" VA panel.
That's what I'm worried about for this drop. Having used and upgraded from a 35" AOC VA panel, I fear the motion blur will be bad.
Now, if this monitor had motion blur reduction (backlight strobing) it would be a home run.
zaphrodbox
116
Sep 16, 2017
Will VA-typeAt the time of originally writing this article, there had only been a couple of high refresh rate VA panels released and used in mainstream monitors. Back in 2013 we saw a flat 23.5” panel emerge from Sharp, who aren’t really a big manufacturer of LCD panels for desktop monitors. Their 120Hz capable 1920 x 1080 VA panel was used in the very popular Eizo Foris FG2421. Much later on in late 2015 we saw AU Optronics release a curved 35” ultra-wide AMVA panel (M350DVR01.0) with 2560 x 1080 resolution and 144Hz refresh rate, which was used in various monitors including the BenQ XR3501 and Acer Predator Z35 for instance. That relatively low resolution allows the refresh rate of 144Hz to be supported over DisplayPort 1.2 video interfaces. In some cases, like the Acer Predator Z35, the panel can be combined with a G-sync module and this allows overclocking of the refresh rate up to 200Hz. Although from our tests, the pixel response times are not really adequate to keep up with the frame rate and 120Hz is about the sensible limit for that panel.AU Optronics AMVAAU Optronics have a native 200Hz version of this curved 35” panel that went in to production in June 2016 (M350DVR01.2) and looks to have been adopted first in the AOC AGON AG352QCX. They are also working on a smaller curved 30” ultra-wide panel (M300DVR01.0) with 2560 x 1080 resolution and a 200Hz refresh rate. It remains to be seen whether they have managed to reliably drive response times low enough to make this 200Hz practical, as the overclocked options so far have not been great. The forthcoming Acer Predator Z301C is expected to make use of this 30” size 2560 x 1080 @ 200Hz VA panel.In the higher resolution ultra-wide space AU Optronics have AMVA panels in production with 3440 x 1440 resolution and high native refresh rates.
There is the curved 35” M350QVR01.0 panel which went in to production in Sept 2016 (delayed a little from June/July) which offers a native 100Hz refresh rate, allowing AMVA panels to rival the current overclocked IPS panels which offer 3440 x 1440 @ 100Hz. There is also a borderless version in production since September at 100Hz (M350QVR01.1). The 100Hz refresh rate will be possible using the current widespread DisplayPort 1.2 video interface. The first screens to be announced based on these 100Hz VA panels at 3440 x 1440 are the HP Omen X35 and AOC AGON AG352UCG (which we have reviewed).Earlier roadmaps listed another 35" panel which would support 200Hz at 3440 x 1440 but that disappeared for a while, only to re-emerge again later. This is now pencilled in for mass production in Q3 2017. A couple of monitors have now been announced which look to be based on this forthcoming panel. There's the Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ and Acer Predator X35 which sport 200Hz refresh rate at 3440 x 1440 res, along with a 512-zone FALD backlight for HDR support.They also have a curved 30” panel planned with 3440 x 1440 resolution and 144Hz refresh rate which is expected to go in to production during Q3 2016. We might well see 3440 x 1440 @ 144Hz screens available with VA technology sooner than the IPS equivalents as the panels are at least already in production whereas LG.Display’s IPS versions aren’t planned until Q1 2017 at the moment.
It will depend on the adoption of new video interfaces though.As well as the ultra-wide market, AU Optronics are also already producing a curved 31.5” 16:9 aspect ratio panel with a 2560 x 1440 resolution and 144Hz (now updated to 165Hz) refresh rate (M315DVR01.0). That was originally expected to go in to production in January 2017 but that's now slipped to April 2017.A couple of curved 27” panels are planned. The first is without a confirmed production date, offering 2560 x 1440 @ 144Hz. There's also a 1920 x 1080 curved VA panel (M270HVR01.0) with 165Hz refresh rate support. That one has a production date of July 2017.AU
Optronics VA Panel Options Summary
27" curved16:92560 x 1440144HzTBC 27 27" curved16:91920 x 1080165HzJuly 2017 30" curved 1800R21:92560 x 1080200Hz2016 Acer Predator Z301C30" curved 2000R21:93440 x 1440144HzQ3 2016 31".5 curved 1800R16:92560 x 1440165HzApril 17 35" curved 2000R21:92560 x 1080144 - 200Hz2015BenQ XR3501, Acer Predator Z3535" curved 2000R21:92560 x 1080200HzJune 2016 AOC AGON AG352QCX35" curved 1800R21:93440 x 1440100HzSept 16 HP Omen X35, AOC AGON AG352UCG35" curved21:93440 x 1440200HzQ3 2017 Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ, Acer Predator X35
zaphrodbox
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Sep 16, 2017
zaphrodboxSorry the above info was taken from UK website with link below http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/high_refresh_rate.htm
ajaxender12
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Sep 16, 2017
WillIt's great to see you guys take the ethos you've had in the audiophile space and expand, especially to a market like this one for all the reasons you list.
The thing is, this one isn't for me; it's close, but quite simply I want more and I'm willing to pay more, and you guys might be the only ones willing to step up to the plate. Heres what would make a monitor perfect for me: - 4k or ultra-wide 1440, either is fine. - Ideally not TN panel, but still fast g2g (I have no preference for IPS or other tech, this new VA tech sounds great). - Option for G-sync or Free-sync (I would love for AMD to release something competing with the 1080ti, until then I'm looking for G-sync). Aiming for 100Hz at least but failing that is not a deal breaker if both sync options are available. - Ultra-high dynamic range. This is the cool new thing. Get on to it! Beat the others to it! - HDMI Audio pass-through. This could be huge because I've never seen a monitor do this beyond a rudimentary 3.5mm jack, and that's simply not good enough if you're using quality speakers or headphones; which, hey, you guys have a hand in more and more people doing just that. Product synergy! I'd be all over a monitor doing this, making running consoles through both screen and sound sytem just as easy as with a TV.
Hoping this screen does well for you and you can keep iterating.
MooTaters
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Sep 16, 2017
WillViewing angle is another reason IPS is so popular, more so for TV's because of the chance being higher that you won't be looking directly at it. I know it really tripped me out standing up from my desk when I first got my current IPS monitor. Having had a TN panel for years upon years, it was rather odd not seeing color shift upon standing up. Not saying VA doesn't have good angles and little to maybe no color shift, I honestly don't know, just didn't see it mentioned.
On another note, I'd put my vote in on 16:10, people can hate on the black lines all they want, but they're nice for keeping video controls out of the way of the actual video. Plus I can't imagine 21:9 not feeling even more odd at first with those side bars. Not hating, just saying...in the end to each their own, I just wish 16:10 had more people on its boat instead of dying out like it has.
MooTaters
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Sep 16, 2017
SpastekI will say this though, we all like gaming with little to no lag, and keeping FPS nice and smooth...but I'm sure many of us also know the heat that our rigs produce. FPS limiting has saved me a bunch in terms of heat output from my GPU, especially having it in a top floor room(heat rises) that's west facing which here = eating all that afternoon sunlight. Also if I'm not mistaken it helps with any dips in FPS that you might experience, which fluctuation is much more noticeable than solid FPS even at a lower rate.
kuzigu
87
Sep 16, 2017
WillMost is not all, hell, I'd still do it if you can ship for under 100 to the UAE.
Cyphre
2708
Sep 16, 2017
WillOnce overall performance for VA panels has been proven, they may indeed have a market share. They are lower cost for sure, but IPS has done so well these past years because of color accuracy and the gradual improvement in performance (such as response time).
While I have no doubt LG and Samsung have something of a monopoly on all forms of screens in this day and age, there isn't an emergent monitor technology that meets the standards that IPS does, despite manufacturer claims. I mean, you'll never convince me a TN panel comes close to IPS in terms of color. I've had both side by side before, and it's not some minor difference like tinting on Samsung or Apple phones.
Either way, this monitor looks like a great deal for this size/resolution! I paid a pretty penny for my Acer XR341ck, and there is no going back from the beauty and functionality of Ultrawide.
S4vant
4
Sep 16, 2017
WillWill, any chance this will be overclockable to 120 or 144hz?
itchy
69
Sep 16, 2017
zaphrodboxYou are on the internet. Look up the obvious stuff.
Spastek
13
Sep 16, 2017
MooTatersYes absolutely. I'm not saying it's not useful. It's definitely useful for lower FPS but for Higher FPS it's not necessary. So for instance if you play a lot of competitive games, you're probably intentionally running lower settings for more fps and thus GSYNC/FreeSYNC will be worthless to you, so no need to spend the extra money for a panel with it on there. On the other hand if you're playing a lot of more casual but visually demanding games, GSYNC/FreeSYNC can really smooth out the experience.
Having said that, I'd would rather put the extra money for a GSYNC monitor towards a better GPU or some other component. I just want people to make an informed buying decision and not buying into the hype of marketing. If you have a use for a monitor with GSYNC/FreeSYNC and want to spend the extra, don't let me stop you.
I look at the same thing for multicore/multithread processors for a pure gaming rig. While it's getting better, in most cases you don't need the top of the line processor and could put the extra money saved toward a better GPU, SSD, Memory, etc where you'd see better performance or at least similar performance at a cheaper cost.
Spastek
13
Sep 16, 2017
tangmanYep. Although I would totally love to have a GSYNC ultra wide monitor for games like Skyrim where you can really push the graphics fidelity and end up running around 45 - 60. For me, that's the use case and range of which I would find GSYNC useful, but to me, it's simply not worth it.
Additionally I feel like marketing has hyped up FreeSYNC/GSYNC so that you feel like you're getting a subpar monitor without it, when in fact as long as it has low g2g, high refresh, etc then it's a perfectly great monitor. So I'm doing my due diligence simply inform people what it is those technologies. If people still want one after knowing exactly what it does and what they are paying for, more power to them.
strikeforceagent
10
Sep 17, 2017
WillWhat are the dimensions of the panel?
Mellowe
44
Sep 19, 2017
Will@Will VA panels are known to have serious ghosting problems in some cases. Can you tell us anything you know about ghosting issues on this particular panel? Thanks!
Will@Will Hi can you do us a huge favor and post the user manual or at least the OSD menues and contents ? I am specifically looking if this monitor has a selection for Aspect Ratio 1:1 (in addition to usual Widescreen etc)
zypherion
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Sep 20, 2017
stupidusernamecheckLegitimately curious what you use 1:1 for? I've never really encountered that.
randomlyrandom
8
Sep 20, 2017
zypherionGaming with a shit video card maybe? Esports games at 300 fps would be nice if 1:1 can provide this
zypherion
242
Sep 20, 2017
randomlyrandomI looked and found that some niche photographers use 1:1 for stills.. But I'm not sure exactly why the monitor would need to support it. You could always open the images using a different aspect ratio..
I'm hoping it's for something cool though, like some old skool terminal way down deep in a silo/bunker that can launch nukes but is operating headless right now because the government can't source a monitor that supports 1:1 anymore and the machine is too old or too dangerous to allow remote access.
If I don't hear back from him, that's what I'm choosing to believe.
zypherion
242
Sep 20, 2017
stupidusernamecheckI really hope you don't think I was being facetious or mean when I asked, I really am interested. I tried to think of the proper wording that would convey the question over the internet properly without sounding rude, but it still kinda sounds like I'm challenging your need.
Though, of course, you still have no obligation to tell me.
MelloweHey Mellowe, yes! I'm glad you asked about this. You are correct that many VA panel displays have ghosting/blur issues, and this was something we ran into early in the development process. I don't know if this is always the case, but we found the source of ghosting to be poorly optimized controller firmware. By working with our partners to rewrite the controller firmware, we were able to eliminate perceptible ghosting. Our benchmark is the PixPerAn chase test. See the attached screenshot (taken on my XB270HU at home) for an example of the test.
This test works by having two blocks of color traveling across the screen at the maximum supported FPS (the XB270HU is 144hz, thus the FPS flickers between 143 and 144) and you use the bar labeled "distance" to decrease the pixels between them until the trails/streaks overlap. The less ghosting you have, the lower that number can be without seeing the trails/streaks overlap. On color combo #1 (shown in the screenshot), we could consistently hit 1px.
So in short, we think the ghosting on VA panel displays has to do with inexperience programming controllers for VA panels rather than a flaw in the panel tech. We had ghosting, we optimized the firmware, and now we don't.
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stupidusernamecheckI don't have it in-front of me, but I'm pretty sure I remember the monitor allowing for 1:1. I only remember this because it seemed like an odd feature. Gotta view your instagram feed in full screen? Jokes aside, I'll verify and post some pics once I get into the office tomorrow.
m0arpheus
433
Sep 20, 2017
WillGreat response Will - I'm fucking stoked for this drop and I hope it turns out amazing :)
Willhaha, errr. what ? thanks!, cant wait
zypherionhey @zypherion, no prob.
EDIT: looking at your other post, just to make sure, by 1:1 it doesn't mean height and width are the same, it just means that controller doesn't change the aspect of the input (ex, input 1280x720 would use 1:1 pixels which means on this screen you will get 4 black bars around the screen, i'll try to putup a pic)
3 reasons. 1 . I develop some specific sw/apps that I need to verify on specific resolutions without having an emulator or to have it auto-aspected to what the monitor provides (generally it will just do crappy fullscreen) 2. My NVidia 1080 already cant handle bf1 on native resolution of this (and my current LG) monitor, it drops to 55 fps, so planning for future, if I set it to 2400x1440 then I get nice 1:1 setup and the fps still stays at 60fps. (son in future I will just keep on shrinking the display until I can affort a newer vid card) 3. MAME baby, the emulator is sweet, but it so much nicer as 1:1 (and I don't have to rotate my monitor!!!!) 4. the nuclear launch control in my bunker seems to only work on really old monochromes or the 1:1 lolz
oh, yeah, I just bought the LG 34UC80 which is very nice but blurry on gaming, but I don't do artsy things so don't need the IPS panel. so depending on what this monitor can do I would return it to amazon and eat the $26 shipping back charge.
zypherion
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Sep 20, 2017
stupidusernamecheckAhhhhhhhhh, I see. So like a "pixel perfect" or "natural" mode. Gotcha.
Thanks for getting back to me!
stupidusernamecheckHa! I was writing my response to you saying "Yea there's definitely a 1:1 option, but it's not making the screen square so maybe I'm missing something?".
So to confirm, 1:1 is an option in the aspect ratio menu of the OSD, and it performs exactly as you describe.
Willlolz CRAP, now I really have to repack and send the LG back
thanks for checking!

EDIT: OMG THE SHIP DATE IS JAN 2018!?!?!?!? now I really need to figure out how to get a monitor in the interim
saturnotaku
108
Sep 20, 2017
WillHi Will, would you consider adding Lon Seidman (www.lon.tv) to your list of reviewers who will get a sample? Full disclosure, I do support him on Patreon but am otherwise not affiliated with him. His channel has about 150,000 subs as of the time I write this, and it's been growing very steadily in the 18 months I've or so that I've been a subscriber. You wouldn't be guaranteed a positive review, but it would be 100% honest. He is fully transparent with his viewers concerning relationships with companies, and I'm sure he would be more than happy to return the review unit back to you if you wanted to send it elsewhere or resell.
Atomkinder
123
Sep 21, 2017
WillPlease get one of these to Level1Techs! They have been doing lots of Korean display reviews lately and this would fit in so well for their monitor content, as well as get more folks heading here. They do some very in-depth testing including color calibration testing.
Also hoping this drop repeats because this would be an amazing upgrade from my current 2560*1080 LG display but can't swing it right now.
Hrm, apparently links to YT channels not allowed? Official website: https://level1techs.com/
icecream345345
64
Sep 21, 2017
WillI ordered this already, but curious, what is the NTSC color measurement? 72% 80% 94%? I know sRGB is 100%... but just curious what the NTSC measurements are.
mtran1210
0
Sep 21, 2017
stupidusernamecheckIm running AMD rx580 8gb. what's your pc specs? Will i be able to run games like PUBG and csgo smoothly at it's native res? your comment concerned me a little lol
Adamoknight
1
Sep 21, 2017
WillHey Will, Just curious as to why shipping to the uk is so expensive and is there anyway of getting this down? Thanks in advance Adam
FlavorTown
26
Sep 21, 2017
Will "Will there be a G-Sync version of the Vast? No. The hardware necessary for G-Sync and the controller for the Vast are fundamentally incompatible."
Exactly what controller is being used in this monitor?
mtran1210i7-4770 OCd to 4.1Ghz 8GB RAID10 4x10kRPM 300G drives founders 1080 not OCd
on bf1, all HIGH,(ie not ULTRA) and on the native res of this mon it cant pump out 60 fps in game(can only manage ~56) I may be doing something wrong, just not sure what.
FlavorTown
26
Sep 22, 2017
stupidusernamecheckAre you using display port cable? Make sure vsync is disabled in the nvidia control panel also in game options. make sure you go into the nvidia control panel and set the monitor to 144hz hope this helps.
FlavorTown
26
Sep 22, 2017
stupidusernamecheckYou should be getting at least 90-120fps on all ultra at that res
FlavorTown
26
Sep 22, 2017
stupidusernamecheckMake sure you are running dx12 also make sure you have the most up to date drivers for your video card
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/123936/en-us
AddictedGamerSP
45
Sep 23, 2017
WillWill, not to poke holes in your statement here, but your screen shot is from a monitor that is 2560x1440, obviously not the monitor in question here (which is the Massdrop made 3440x1440 model).
Can you show us an ACTUAL blur-busters/PixPerAN report from the monitor you're selling?
NuclearLemons
46
Sep 23, 2017
AddictedGamerSPthey said in the message that it was a different panel, their point was that the firmware was the cause and that it can be fixed for any VA panel, including this one.
NuclearLemons
46
Sep 23, 2017
WillHey will, happy backer and love the info you have provided so far (1440p freesync + vega 64 glory for less that a g-sync monitor of similar spec) i did have a question though, you said in the description it is a VA panel, but do you mean a MVA or a PVA"? Also, can you say for certain the ghosting has been addressed at such a high refresh rate and low response time?
S1M0N93
7
Sep 25, 2017
WillWhat dimensions will the final packaging have. And how much will it weigh.
FlavorTownHey @FlavorTown yes DispPort cable, but yes, I was also running vsync, oops, will need to try it now without it. that monitor I have now only goes up to 60Hz, it is not a gaming monitor from that sense or any sense for that matter.
Cheshire330
4
Sep 26, 2017
WillWhen using outside of the US, like NZ or EU will the monitor work with a simple cable adapter or will it require a step down transformer to regulate power and not fry it?
Cheshire330Cable adapter, the power supply is auto switching 110v - 220v
FlavorTown
26
Sep 26, 2017
stupidusernamecheckDid you end up fixing your issue?
virajh
3
Sep 26, 2017
MooTatersActually 16:10 is a really good screen ratio for office work. I used to have two Dell 16:10s at my previous place and I absolutely loved them. The amount of vertical screen space does matter. Just my $0.02.
KamiCAT
7
Sep 27, 2017
Will what is the Height of this monitor? with and without the stander?
snailzrus
73
Sep 27, 2017
KamiCATDoing some math based on the 21:9 aspect ratio and the 35" diagonal screen size, the display is about 13.8" tall so likely about 14"-14.2" with the bezel.
icecream345345Hey there, best I can find is a measurement from this page: https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/2b8a9c1
This monitor uses the same panel as the Vast, and it's NTSC coverage is ~72%
icecream345345
64
Sep 28, 2017
WillThank you, also if it uses the AOC controller and not the Acer Z35 controller it means it won't overclock to 120hz... anyway we can get that confirmed? Should be easy if you have a test monitor on hand - Nvidia graphics settings - and overclock there within two clicks should be easy enough, try 110hz and 120hz :D
icecream345345Send me a link to a guide and I'll give it a go when I'm back at the office tomorrow.
icecream345345
64
Sep 28, 2017
Willhttps://youtu.be/FuQwcDFdI_k?t=12s I made a video showing you how, its only about 40 seconds long.
brometheus
0
Sep 28, 2017
WillAU OPTICS has one of the shittiest quality controls in the business. Their 27" 2560x1440 is almost impossible to get without dirt laminated into the layers. Why should their 3440x1440 be any better?
By they way, almost every Samsung monitor uses VA, its not that special at all.
Also the real response time of VA-panels is pretty bad. Usually about 20ms, overdrive can reduce that a bit, but in reality you get nowhere near a TN-panel.
BagelBytes
46
Sep 28, 2017
brometheusMight want to update your knowledge of VA panels. The days when new VA panels were 20ms are gone. For these ultrawides they usually sit at around 8ms with overdrive reducing that to ~4ms. It's true that it's still nowhere near a TN panel, but ghosting or smearing is much harder to notice than it used to be. Of course, there are people still super sensitive to even the slight ghosting the newer VA panels have. I notice a bit of inverse ghosting with my VA panel with overdrive on sometimes, but only for text and it doesn't really bother me.
icecream345345Hey, thanks for the video! I tried setting it to 110hz and 120hz. Both worked, in that the settings saved, images displayed on the screen, and the UFO test confirmed the refresh rates.
I tried gaming and doing a variety of other visually intense tasks and the 110hz setting worked like a champ. At 120hz, the monitor would randomly cut to black and return a couple moments later. Strangely, this cut-to-black never happened while in a game, only while browsing the control panel and general browsing.
Overall, I think we can confidently say this overclocks to 110hz without issue, and games at 120hz without issue, but that cut-to-black makes 120hz pretty much useless.
NuclearLemons
46
Sep 29, 2017
Willthanks for attaching the link to the panel type, it has answered a lot of questions for me! Its only when looking at the g-sync version do you get a good idea of how much this usually costs. Was it just the implementation of freesync that brought the costs down $350 or were other cuts made elsewhere?
icecream345345
64
Sep 29, 2017
WillSounds good, and every panel will be different, some will do 120hz like a champ, 99% of them will do 110hz just fine though it sounds like. Thanks!
kokin
106
Sep 29, 2017
WillCould you post a photo (not screenshot) of the UFO test at 110Hz/120Hz? If you can set your shutter speed on your camera or phone to 1/8 sec, it should show a line of continuous gray squares. Much appreciated!
FlavorTownHi, sort of. removed the vsync and then also instead of fullscreen I selected full resolution and borderless, amazingly that not only improved the fps but also tearing. fullscreen mode - very obvious tearing, borderless - no tearing, that is the oddest thing thanks
aptivaboy
54
Oct 2, 2017
WillHas there been any updates to the prior posters' questions about returns? How would one go about it if the monitor is DOA, for example? Who would have to pay for shipping? Warranties? I've been looking bu so far not seen anything.
I'm in the market for a wide monitor, at least 32 inches. The current finalists are form HP and LG. LG seems to have the better refresh rates and more robust stands and adjustability, while HP seems to have superior color reproduction, plus free shipping and airline miles if I buy through them. However, I'm also very interested in this drop. For this drop's monitor to edge out either the HP or LG monitors, I'd need to know the answers to the questions above.
Many thanks!
Bob
aptivaboyHey Bob,
Massdrop handles the warranty and covers associated shipping. If you had a DOA unit, you'd contact support via your "My Transactions" page, our team would verify the issue and begin the RMA process (we give you a shipping label, etc).
67Eleanor
23
Oct 2, 2017
WillSo would this mean that if this product comes damaged on Jan 18th in my mail, I can get a replacement? having the appropriate documentation and transaction reciept on hand of course? thanks Will
67Eleanor
23
Oct 2, 2017
Willok sweet, thanks Will.
aptivaboy
54
Oct 4, 2017
Not cool. Expressing your opinions is fine but that's ridiculous. I haven't made my mind up on this monitor yet, but calling it sh*t isn't the way to convince anyone that your position is the correct one.
A community member
Oct 4, 2017
aptivaboyPlease buy one and lets compare. or spend a tad bit more on a great monitor.
Don't be stupid-cheap.
kokinHey, can you link the specific variation of the UFO test you're referencing? I asked our photographer to help out because my phone doesn't do 1/8th (and even then, you'd want a tripod because it's so long), but I'm not sure what gray squares you're talking about?
aptivaboy
54
Oct 4, 2017
And, don't be a jerk. Don't say, " This guys is full of shit;" horrible grammar, by the way, is not calculated to make people agree with you. It just makes you sound uneducated and ignorant. You just insulted someone (Will) whom I'm betting you don't even know. If you're so sure that the monitor is crap, why? Share your immense knowledge of "monitor-ese" with us. Like I said, I haven't decided on buying one yet, and LG and HP are still in the running. I just object to the use of profanity on a thread that I started. Take the potty mouth someplace else, please. By the way, I note that your bio states, "Massdrop is full of hipster-scamming-hipsters. Anyone with half a brain can do better deals." If you feel that way about Massdrop, then please go in peace and likewise leave the rest of us in peace.
JackofTrades
5
Oct 5, 2017
aptivaboyPsst Dude, he's just a troll, don't waste your breathe and time on him. That's what they want. The best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them; not sink to their level. He's just baiting you. No one listen to people like them so don't respond. His username says it all.
kokin
106
Oct 5, 2017
WillThanks for getting back to me Will. It is the Frameskipping test found on: https://www.testufo.com/#test=frameskipping
If the monitor can actually overclock to 110-120hz, all the gray boxes should line up without any breaks in the line. Please see my example below:
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Prapperd
29
Oct 5, 2017
SpastekThat's assuming competitive gaming. I have a 144hz gsync simply because screen tearing bothers me much more than a slight input delay. I can handle loosing a match because my aim was off (it normally is), I can't handle small frame stutters that cause lines across the screen or worse, dropped/missed frames. generally to me vsync on or off is very much worse either way than gsync on. I've also used freesync on a friends setup, fixes all the issues the same, just less expensive and nvidia wouldn't dare make their gpus compatible with freesync/vesa adaptive sync (the tech gsync and freesync are built on) because profits. what good is the fps in a non-comp game if your eyes are constantly being distracted by tears (vsync off) or bad frame pacing/frame dropping when below vsync target on a game you're trying to max out (vsync on)? gsync/freesync solve that, and you can turn it off if you don't want it at the time. another point on freesync monitors, if you have an nvidia gpu, you can still benefit from freesync, just not in the way you want. freesync monitors are much more stable at odd hz values, and have no issues letting you set the refresh rate to anything that is between the min-max range of freesync they support (odd values like 44hz, 38hz, 82hz, as long as it's inside the freesync sync range, typically 20, 25 or 30hz upwards to the max refresh rate ). this can be very handy for nailing down the framerate you can hold for vsync, be it under or over 60. edit: now that freesync is supported by nvidia, the main thing you need to look for in a freesync monitor is the freesync range. something with a 48-75hz freesync range will not work well, you'll want about 2.4x the min for the max freesync range for it to work well as gsync compatible. so 60-144 is the minimum you should shoot for, anything that's 60-120 or lower will have some flickering issues.
(Edited)
JustFluxz
456
Oct 6, 2017
WillIs there any kind of ghosting and smearing?
Skunkboi
1
Oct 7, 2017
Willshipping to Australia is USD $170. Damn that is quite a turnoff.
MrP627
2
Oct 8, 2017
WillHow much is the shipping to the Philippines? Since it is a VA and not an IPS panel how is the viewing angle? Would you know at what point color degradation starts?
Stephen87
22
Oct 9, 2017
WillMy biggest concern is the 2ms response time, I am sold on this monitor if you can provide whether there is any overshoot or slow response times other than g2g with the overdrive on, similar to what happens to all over VA panels. Also, what is the response time of the panel without overdrive? The fact it is not listed concerns me greatly.
A community member
Oct 10, 2017
aptivaboy horrible grammar, > I'd be upset by you nagging my grammer but I'm not from the UK or US.
It just makes you sound uneducated and ignorant. > I'd like to believe many people here are so full of themselves they'd buy a block of wood as long as it's on massdrop. "Hey look at this great deal".
If you're so sure that the monitor is crap, why? > I replied on another comment chain. I've had 2 34" monitors already. I've got a job where I sit in front of many high end monitors all day. Horrible idea to buy a 34" korea monitor off of massdrop when newer cheaper panels are due from LG, Samsung, Acer..... Where I'm at you can get a decent 34" with in-store guarantees for 100 Dollar more. 100hz on a korea monitor means NOTHING - like with the new 34" VA panels from Samsung, LG etc - they're 100hz but the ghosting makes it look worse than old budget monitors. It's massdrop, you wait for half a year and will miss any deals (assuming you buy this to cheap out - and pray it's half good). Now I'm not going to google datasheets and provide numbers, statistics, or any of that. If it looks good, feels good and makes me feel good - It's good. I've never seen; in comparison to a real high end monitor with similar specs - a cheap alternative that fits the bill - DESPITE having all the right numbers on paper.
I just object to the use of profanity on a thread that I started. > Enlighten me, I was born and raised with the word shit describing something iffy. This is.
I'm not saying YOU as a person is stupid, maybe I did. I'm saying this monitor is stupid. Anyone who has friends in sales can attest to mr Wills' will to have his, and only his will through, and no other will do. Enjoy my grammar I bet it hurts people on here physically.
I'm not a troll. I'm a person. I don't write this to upset any of you. I'm trying to reach out to you so you can do the better choice.
x
MasterRend4n
12
Oct 11, 2017
S4vantwill has tested it, and it works perectly at 110hz, at 120hz overclock he noticed it worked in game, but when he minimized the game window or did anything else besides gaming, the monitor showed errors.. so 110hz or 100hz is your sweet spot - hope this helps :D
psynautic
5
Oct 13, 2017
cool username
aptivaboy
54
Oct 13, 2017
" I'm not a troll. I'm a person. I don't write this to upset any of you. I'm trying to reach out to you so you can do the better choice. "
Then, don't act like a troll. Write intelligently. Don't use profanity - it just makes you sound and appear ignorant and low brow. Don't attack people (Will) personally. Be a gentleman.
To not do so only makes you appear like the troll that you claim not to be.
You can do better. You can be better.
patrik.radelj
1
Oct 13, 2017
Willnice
icecream345345
64
Oct 13, 2017
kokin@Will i think he has vanished on us, still waiting on his personal video review and word from linus review... ; ; tick tock tick toock, i cant decide lol I am so worried I will miss my IPS colors/viewing angles, even though I sit just in front of my monitor viewing angles matter on such a big screen.
aptivaboy
54
Oct 13, 2017
icecream345345There is already one review on 'da Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x-z11DSWOw
Is Linus doing one? The more reviews the merrier. I'm still on the fence. I want this, but I'm concerned about a number of things, mainly long term reliability. I still have PCs and monitors from the early 2000s that are still banging away nicely. The long term reliability and viability of the monitor is what I'm most interested in. Hopefully, Linus will be able to offer a smidgeon of info or opinions on that.
hans1
7
Oct 13, 2017
WillI am also on the fence, waiting for more reviews. Any updates on the reviews front would be appreciated!
jloopy212
221
Oct 13, 2017
hans1They've posted several times about Linus as recently as yesterday. Not sure what more people want to know.
MasterRend4n
12
Oct 14, 2017
WillThx will 👌🎮🎮🎮🎮🎮
icecream345345
64
Oct 15, 2017
jloopy212@jloopy212 @Will all reviews fail to show if pixel smearing is present in 2ms overdrive mode. also I find it suspicious that Reviewer did Spyder calibration on colors yet did not show us the actual chart of colors... I have seen Linus and other monitor reviewers use Spyder and every single time they show the chart and explain the chart to you, the devil is in the details.
icecream345345Hopefully linus has all the info you're looking for when he posts his video. I'll be posting some gameplay footage we made yesterday that folks have requested as well.
GPwhat
5
Oct 18, 2017
Will Where will the gameplay footage be posted?
NuclearLemons
46
Oct 18, 2017
GPwhatit's already up, scroll around a bit.
Here is the link anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55Ylo9ExHE
xevidroid
22
Oct 23, 2017
WillPlease PLEASE PLEASE make a Gsync version! I'd totally buy it for 600$!!! I'm sick of seeing 1000$ monitors in every youtube video, I can't afford any of that...
Atomkinder
123
Oct 24, 2017
xevidroidSince this one is $550 you could expect a Gsync to be at a bare minimum $650, if not more like $750.
And as was mentioned previously, the hardware is not Gsync module-compatible, so it would have to be a different configuration.
xevidroid
22
Oct 24, 2017
AtomkinderI'm just saying that there is demand for affordable UWQHD gsync monitors and the market is currently unsatisfied with the monopolists' offerings. I'd pay 600$ for a monitor with the specs this one has, if it had gsync. It's up to massdrop or others to try and make one. 1000$+ for a monitor is totally unreasonable for most people, and this comes from someone who has a top of the line desktop pc.
inmytaxi
175
Oct 24, 2017
xevidroidWho needs sync with 144 hz monitors?
snailzrus
73
Oct 24, 2017
xevidroidGysnc is proprietary. They wouldn't be able to make a gsync monitor with the same specs for the same price and likely still not for an extra $50. We'd be looking at probably$750 at the lowest if they took exactly what they have now and just shoved a gsync module in.
snailzrus
73
Oct 24, 2017
inmytaxiThe vast is 100hz. Looks to be overclockable to 110hz at the top. 120 crashed on the desktop but didn't in game for some reason.
gdeangel
3
Oct 25, 2017
WillHey Will, 99% ready to pull the trigger on this product as it looks like a great value for a great monitor. My only question is about return policy. I am very sure that I will be very satisfied come January with it but in the off chance it does not fit our needs can we return it? I get how it is hard to offer returns at such low prices but this is a first time product unavailable anywhere unlike many other products sold on massdrop. It's hard to make this investment with unpredictable resale value in case I don't like it.
Rezalis
2
Oct 25, 2017
snailzrusso you can overclock the vast? why didn't they mention this feature anywhere?
snailzrus
73
Oct 25, 2017
RezalisYes, someone asked if it could be done and showed will from MassDrop how. He tried it and that was his results.
MasterRend4n
12
Oct 25, 2017
RezalisU know the acer predator 100hrz version? Thats is also overclocked since its not native 100hrz but 75hrz. And alot of models with sales pitch of up to 144hrz is also in overclocked mode. Almost all gaming monitors with a set native hrz can be tweaked
MasterRend4n
12
Oct 25, 2017
MasterRend4nThe vast is native 100hrz so it can be tweaked to go higher than that 👌
unjusticewin
0
Oct 26, 2017
MasterRend4nyeah but according to linus on his video he says towards the end it tends to have big dips in hz below the required amount needed to stop frame skips
CharlieMason
107
Oct 26, 2017
unjusticewinWere we watching the same review dude, because at no point in the video does he even come close to saying that.
Sketch56
5
Oct 26, 2017
CharlieMason
107
Oct 26, 2017
Sketch56Still doesn't mean he's right. He made it sound like that was the fault of the monitor and that running at lower fps causes frame skips, like what? Assuming he truly did not mean the monitor runs at a lower hertz, that only means there aren't enough frames coming from the GPU, not that they are coming but being skipped by the monitor. I would disagree with the GPU not being powerful enough to keep games in the Freesync range since I'm sure the Vega 64 is capable of that in most games, but if for a moment I do concede that, the monitor is still not at fault. Furthermore, no one should be buying a monitor to match their hardware if the hardware isn't capable because monitors are longer term investments than any other PC component. You are more likely to upgrade your components every once in a while than a monitor so that shouldn't even be a factor in consideration unless he does not foresee himself using Freesync in the further future. That doesn't mean it is a demerit for the monitor, he should just be looking at other options. At no point anything he said made enough sense or was right.
MasterRend4n
12
Oct 26, 2017
CharlieMasonExactly like u said, at no point in the video is it mentioned :D
jloopy212
221
Oct 26, 2017
CharlieMasonWell to be fair, it wouldn't be the first time there was a hardware issue with a particular panel at the lower bound of the Freesync range. For example, the CF791 exhibited similar problems at launch though they were eventually resolved like 6-8 months later through a driver fix.
His commentary is pretty much clear as mud on the issue, but there is certainly a precedent for the monitor being the problem.
Sketch56
5
Oct 26, 2017
CharlieMason Whoa man, chill. I'm not disagreeing that it's not the monitor's fault, just stating that what the guy said was most likely from that part in the video.
Bergkamp
0
Oct 27, 2017
WillWhat the hell?, IPS is better in everything exept black levels, all the rest you said is BS. Also, Viewing angles, image stability should be priority. Va suffers from gamma shift, maybe these cuved screens helps to reduce the gamma difference between the center and sides of the screen sitting dead on, but once you move your head just a little, you cannot unseen it, due to the nature of the VA tech.
AdmiralParmesan
0
Oct 30, 2017
kokinI hope he takes a look at this, just because the monitor can overclock to 110 hz doesn't mean it is really running at 110 hz. You need the frame skipping test to check.
AdmiralParmesan
0
Oct 30, 2017
WillPlease test the monitor's overclock with the UFO frame skipping test kokin linked below. It is the only way to check if the monitor's overclock is actually working. This overclock is a big selling point for me and other people, so it would be nice to know what it is capable of.
kokin
106
Oct 30, 2017
AdmiralParmesanThis monitor is a compromise monitor at best but it really does provide decent value for anyone who doesn't want more. I will personally wait for a 120-144hz native refresh rate with G-Sync to push the limits of my 1080Ti. Hopefully more DP1.4 monitors come out before the Asus/Acer PG35VQ/X35 slated for later next year
snailzrus
73
Oct 31, 2017
kokinI agree with wanting gsync as I have a 1080 myself, but 120-144hz is a stretch even with a ti version. A 1440p ultrawide has almost as many pixels as a 4k display. Trying to push that kind of fps with modern GPUs isn't going to happen in triple A titles is just not going to happen. Maybe if you want a high res high refresh monitor for things like CSGO or overwatch, sure, but it's not currently possible in games like Witcher 3, battlefield, GTA, whatever. I'd love to see a monitor that can do that for sure, but I wouldn't say this is a compromise, it's a good deal.
kokin
106
Oct 31, 2017
snailzrusI disagree as I have a LG34UC88 as well as a Qnix 1440p that overclocks to 120hz. My EVGA 1080Ti FTW3 will easily push 120+FPS on my Qnix and reaches 100-120 for 1440p Ultrawide (capped at 60Hz for Nvidia). 4K res runs at 8mil pixels, 1440p Ultrawide runs 5mil pixels and 1440p runs 3.7mil pixels. Ultrawide usually lowers FPS by 10-15%. No matter what spec, you're looking at a compromise monitor, but like I said, it's great value for the price.
CharlieMason
107
Oct 31, 2017
kokinBy your standards, anything that isn't 4K, 240 Hz IPS 1ms is a compromise. Yes, even 144 Hz isn't the highest end monitors can go so why not only look for better and not consider anything else, right?
snailzrus
73
Nov 1, 2017
kokinWhat games are you playing that you're getting 100-120fps on a 1440p UW? While I can see some games breaking 100hz with a 1080ti, I see more than double falling short. From 2 different reviews, I found 3/11 games could break 100hz at 1440p UW based on average fps in the first review and 3/10 in the second.
techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review/ toptengamer.com/gtx-1080-ti-vs-gtx-1080-ultrawide-gaming-benchmark/
I can definitely see the perks of a higher refresh rate panel, but I don't think there are many right now in this aspect ratio. The Acer Z35P can do 100hz with overclocking to 120hz, but that comes down to the display driver inside since I'm willing to bet that the Z35P uses the same panel as the Vast.
auo.com/zh-TW/application/detail/Monitor_Applications (scroll to the bottom, oh and let your browser translate)
Really the only thing I think you want this to have, and I definitely would have loved too, would be gsync. It's very possible that people can get lucky and get a panel and driver set that's good enough to overclock up to the same 120hz that the z35p can do. When Will tested the overclocking, he did verify 110hz with the ufo test, but 120 failed on windows, while working in game for some reason. I'm willing to bet that's to do with windows itself, but either way, he did this with a prototype.
kokin
106
Nov 1, 2017
CharlieMasonOuch the sarcasm must have meant I hurt your feelings. This is clearly a jack of all trades monitor, but why take compromise as a negative thing? You're not paying $1000+ for the high-end monitors and you got a better value than I did paying $700+ for my LG 34UC88. That said, I consider my LG a compromise monitor and won't make the same mistake again.
kokin
106
Nov 1, 2017
snailzrusI don't play with AA on and my 1080Ti runs at 2000+mhz vs the standard 1400-1500mhz in those reviews so that's what gives me the extra 10-15 FPS.
The issue is that 3440x1440 100hz is hitting the bandwidth limit of DP1.2. Yes the Z35P can surpass this limit, but that's the G-Sync module overdriving specs and we have no idea what that does for longevity. There are rumors more Ultrawides will release with DP1.4 that will easily run 120-144hz and will be releasing 2018 Q1. The X35/PG35VQ are delayed til 2018 Q3, if not longer and I wouldn't pay over $1500 if it's not OLED.
Edit: Also Will never showed a UFO test running 110Hz. That was my own post explaining to him how to take an image of the UFO test and had my Qnix running at 110Hz.
CharlieMason
107
Nov 1, 2017
kokinDidn't hurt my feelings mate, because like you just pointed out, you were unsatisfied with your own monitor. Unfortunately, that is how it will always be. No matter the level of product you buy, there will eventually be an improvement to opine for. A perfectly satisfying purchase now, might look less than stellar just a few years down the line. I just meant that shouldn't mean we don't consider less than perfect an option. Heck, I'm personally just considering this ultrawide to get my feet wet and even though I could have, chose not to spend more than the price of this one. This IS a well rounded monitor for the price, but I've already got 2 other monitors for my color correct and gaming needs and I hope there will truly be a day when a single ultrawide monitor will be at my desk that doesn't ask me to compromise on one or the other features. I do however get the feeling that by then 240Hz 1ms 100% Adobe RGB will be for plebs, lol.
snailzrus
73
Nov 1, 2017
kokinGPU Boost 3.0 should auto-OC any 10 series card to the highest possible clock it can get to at the given power target given thermals. My 1080 is still set to stock (w/ factor oc), no manual OC. It runs at 1759mhz with a boost clock to 1898mhz. When I actually play something like Witcher 3, it jumps to somewhere between 2000-2100mhz on its own. So your manual OC might have some impact, but its not going to be night and day. The 10 series kind of ruined overclocking.
Bohefus
36
Nov 1, 2017
kokin "The X35/PG35VQ are delayed til 2018 Q3, if not longer and I wouldn't pay over $1500 if it's not OLED." Where did you hear this info? It was supposed to be Q4 2017 and then it was delayed to Q1 2018. I haven't seen any news on it being delayed again.
kokin
106
Nov 1, 2017
BohefusSorry to be the bearer of bad news, scroll down to Curved Monitors: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/38.htm#auo_roadmap_oct17 Production 2018 Q2 usually means a release of 3-6 months after, so assume a Q3 release.
Bohefus
36
Nov 1, 2017
kokinWell, That sucks!! I have a feeling that I wouldn't have liked the price anyway. Is it too much to ask for a 34 or 35 inch 1440P monitor with G-sync that doesn't have issues like back light bleed or ghosting or dead pixels for a decent price.
kokin
106
Nov 1, 2017
BohefusI feel the same way. I'm hoping the 120Hz Ultrawides for Q1 will be good enough without having to deal with the typical QC issues of Ultrawides.
Bohefus
36
Nov 1, 2017
kokinI was thinking of just getting a Acer Z35P or a Acer X34. What are the expected new panels for the beginning of 2018 ?
kokin
106
Nov 1, 2017
BohefusNo official products announced but LG and AU Optronics are slated to release 3440x1440 120Hz panels with better color support as well as some HDR support. Think of it as something between the X34 and upcoming X35. I'm guessing they will reveal during CES and release in March.
Bohefus
36
Nov 1, 2017
kokinI wish they would release something sooner than March. I'm tired of this 60hz 1080p old Samsung i'm using right now.
Bohefus
36
Nov 1, 2017
kokinI like the design of LG monitors (less gamery) although they don't seem to have many with G-sync.
kokin
106
Nov 1, 2017
BohefusYeah I'm a big fan of LG's aesthetics, plus their 34UC88/98 monitors had the least amount of QC issues (backlight bleed, color shifting, etc). Unfortunately, that monitor only does 3440x1440 75Hz with an AMD Freesync GPU and locks to 60Hz with Nvidia GPUs (painful). I used it for a year with a Fury X and while that was a great experience, you honestly need performance along Vega56/64 or GTX 1080/1080Ti to run 3440x1440 at higher refresh rates. With the disappointing release of Vega GPUs, I opted to get a 1080Ti and wait for whatever next-gen Ultrawides would release, which was the Acer X35 or Asus PG35VQ, but the 2-3 quarter delay really put a damper on my plans. Went back to using my Qnix 1440p 120Hz PLS monitor for gaming, but it's just not the same as a curved Ultrawide experience.
zaphrodbox
116
Nov 6, 2017
gdeangelOne hint at massdrops return policy - GOOD LUCK. I have never had them even consider returns on anything; from the wrong description compare to the product I received, to trying to get my money back months after the product was supposed to ship but still had not. So if this does get delayed into 2018 sometime and you already paid, please post if they actually are willing to talk refund.
zypherion
242
Nov 6, 2017
zaphrodboxNot trying to start a fight, but tossing in my own experience here. I've had two drops delayed and both were refunded by massdrop when I got sick of waiting.
zaphrodbox
116
Nov 7, 2017
zypherionGlad to hear it honestly. I've had other positive experiences and timely drops, just not refunds, but I'm still here shopping so...
JeeTheMen
49
Nov 29, 2017
WillHi Will!
Any update on the monitor? Is the build process started? Will we have a updated software for the in-monitor navigation ( all reviewer says it was awful)...thanks! Cant wait to get my hand on this one...
NuclearLemons
46
Nov 29, 2017
JeeTheMenwill has stated that the monitor navigation has been changed from the early review samples and that the control scheme on them was never intended to be the final version.
JeeTheMen
49
Nov 30, 2017
NuclearLemonsThat's a good news! Do you have a source?
NuclearLemons
46
Nov 30, 2017
JeeTheMenYes I do, this thread. Will says it around the first review posted by randomfrankp, sorry to say but you'll be scrolling quite a bit. It might have also be mentioned on franks own post on this discussion
JeeTheMen
49
Nov 30, 2017
NuclearLemonsThanks I'll be checking that out!
NuclearLemons
46
Nov 30, 2017
JeeTheMenbest suggestion i can give you is look around all of wills comments from about 6-8 weeks ago. it will be among them. i found a comment on franks review which references wills response including the controls on the panel. best i could do in 5 mins of scrolling around
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WillHi @Will
do you have any updates on the monitors? are they on track ? or do you foresee delays?
I'm ok, I just need to plan ..... (I'm currently without a monitor :| )
cheers marry Christmas/happy holidays!
CharlieMason
107
Dec 22, 2017
stupidusernamecheckDid you check out the video of them on the manufacturing line?
CharlieMasonno, didnt know there is one... link?
CharlieMasonHeh, Thanks, this is great
aktexan
0
Feb 12, 2018
WillSo far I've noticed that after setting to 120Hz the cutting into and out of black happens only after coming out of a game and back to the desktop. But stops as soon as I turn off the monitor and turn it back on.
zaphrodbox
116
Feb 20, 2018
zaphrodboxIt seems maybe Massdrop is beginning to value good customer service as I have heard some good things lately. I for one hope they continue to value their customers, especially as they push more and more into manufacturing the products they sell.
tg12
57
Apr 27, 2019
WillJOLED is making OLED panels and AUO is making mini LED panels. Will Massdrop be offering an OLED and/or mini LED version of this monitor, that is equal to or better than PA32UCX?
cecton
1
Jul 20, 2020
WillHello! I contacted Massdrop's support to see if there is a firmware update but they couldn't answer. Are you the producer of the Vast screen? Do you know if and where we can find firmware update? I'm asking because I recently started using the freesync but I get artifacts on the screen.
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