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Hortm
41
Oct 11, 2017
I have a gsync 27inch monitor, looking to upgrade. Think this would be a good monitor for gaming and usual stuff ?
MikeCec
18
Oct 12, 2017
HortmWell it depends on a number of factors. Your monitor is more then likely 120hz or 144hz and i presume 2560x1440 resolution.
1. So in this case you will be getting more screen real estate and as a result your field of view will be larger and games will be more immersive.
2. You will get a slight hit at the refresh rate but anything above 100hz isn't that noticeable and would only matter if you play a lot of competitive fps and want to have every edge posible.
3.If your monitor is old it most likely is using a TN pannel and the colors and viewing angles are nothing compared to this monitors VA pannel (that if I am not mistaking is a samsung one). If it is newer and has an IPS you might get better colors (but i doubt it is the case for your monitor) and slightly better viewing angles while this VA pannel will ofer you better blacks and better contrast while the collors are good and comparable with a upper mid/high end IPS disply and only the best IPS that have 10bit panneles will do better.
4. And this is a very important choice for you, if you have an nvidia card and do not plan to get a new amd card anytime soon then you will lose Gsync. And depending on the games you play and your tollerance for tearing this may be a decidng factor for you. There are still alternatives from my knowledge that do a decent job in preventing tearing but still nvidias Gsync implementation is the best but it also ads between 150-200$ to the price of any monitor and I personaly belive that the difrence is not justifyble based on other solutions like freesync that you know its FREEsync. So if you have an amd card or plan on buying one you no wories here.
In general I belive it is a good upgrade. Based on the specs and that review they have up i would say for the money it is an great deal. If linus review comes out before the end of the drop and it is positive it will be the final nail in the shipping crate of this monitor. :)
Hortm
41
Oct 12, 2017
MikeCecYea sadly I have a nvidea graphic card and not looking to switch. I don't think I need it but not sure tbh. Guess I will wait and see. Thank you for the detailed answer
jloopy212
221
Oct 12, 2017
HortmThere was a decent amount of misinformation in that detailed answer for what it's worth. If you're not looking to leave the green tent anytime soon, it doesn't really matter though as you do not want to give up adaptive sync at this resolution.
hans1
7
Oct 12, 2017
jloopy212What misinformation?
jloopy212
221
Oct 12, 2017
hans1"You will get a slight hit at the refresh rate but anything above 100hz isn't that noticeable"
This is questionable - you would absolutely notice the difference between 144Hz and 100Hz assuming you had a GPU that could max out at both. Whether it's important to you is pretty subjective.
" that if I am not mistaking is a samsung one"
Incorrect - not even the right country of origin. The panel is manufactured by AU Optronics.
"If it is newer and has an IPS you might get better colors (but i doubt it is the case for your monitor) and slightly better viewing angles while this VA pannel will ofer you better blacks and better contrast while the collors are good and comparable with a upper mid/high end IPS disply and only the best IPS that have 10bit panneles will do better.
Incorrect and speculative. The color on this panel is 100% sRGB, which is perfectly adequate for gaming, but average at best regardless of the panel tech and not in the same ballpark as high-end IPS monitors let alone professional-grade displays. In theory, this particular VA panel may be superior if the marketing materials are correct, but it's not true of VA generally.
"nvidias Gsync implementation is the best"
Incorrect. There's effectively no difference between adaptive sync options in terms of performance.
" other solutions like freesync that you know its FREEsync "
Incorrect - Freesync is not free as it requires a Displayport 1.2 license plus a compatible scalar, which adds to the engineering costs at least and probably the BoM as well.
hans1
7
Oct 12, 2017
jloopy212Thanks for explaining!
MikeCec
18
Oct 12, 2017
jloopy212Ok so:
1. Yes there are people that can tell the difference between 100hz and 144hz, some can see 240hz or above. But the greatest impact ia between 60 and 100~120. Beyond that it is better bu it becomes very subjectiv how much better it is.
2. My bad about the pannel
3. I didn't say it was inadequate for gaming color wise, it is more than adequet. I just pointed out general pro and cons. That it is on par whit most IPS screens color wise whit the exception of the slight viewing angles and high tier profesional ips panels. You can go beyond 100% sRGB (the samsung drop is actualy a quantum dott VA pannel that can do like 120-130%) and there are color gamuts that are way more expansive. That is the basic technological facts.
4. The quality of adaptive sync. Here i have to admit I am speaking based on reviews linus probably beeing the most through and there apears to be a difference in quality.
5.As for the price amd made the tech open sorce and was implemented in display port so you would have to not want display ports on the gpu to avoid the feature or have older gen dp. Even will states in anothere post it is free. Side note nvidia gpus have dp 1.2 and could work with free sync but they blocked that feature for that gsync money. (I have an nvidia gpu with an ryzen so don't star whit fanboy stuff)
jloopy212
221
Oct 12, 2017
MikeCec1. Yes, obviously there is a bigger difference between 60/120 than between 100/144+ because math - doubling the refresh rate has more impact that increasing it 50%. That doesn't change the fact that there is still a perceptible difference, which you stated there was not.
3. 100% sRGB is fine for gaming, but nothing special at all - certainly inadequate for professional work. You seem to be confusing gamut and depth as well, but that's another story. At any rate, the rest is just marketing speak - given that this monitor has not yet been seen in the wild, there's no way to say make any realistic claims about its superiority or inferiority to other panel techs.
4. I'd eat my shirt if a legitimate review site argued that GSync is superior technology. It's simply false. If someone tells you otherwise, follow the money back to NVidia.
5. Freesync is not open source. It is less expensive to implement than GSync. It is not free to implement.
MMonkey
11
Oct 12, 2017
jloopy212I thought I would check benchmarks of games at 2560 x 1440p and then found Not enough of my favorite games were going past 120fps so I Then thought at 3440 x 1440 most all of them won’t be going beyond 100fps. And that would still require a 1080ti to go beyond that.
WasabiSauce
3
Oct 19, 2017
MikeCecI was also of the understanding that Freesync is open source... After a bit of goooogling around, i did find that it was a known misconception. Kudos to AMD or to the reviewers for spreading this misinformation. Anyway, its the VESA Adaptive Sync that is open source and is an "optional" part of Display Port 1.2 bla bla bla. Thats probably the reason why Nvidia doesnt support it (my assumption).
Just to let you know, I did agree with your ( @MikeCec ) explanation about refresh rate and 100% sRGB.
* 100hz refresh rate is more than enough for gaming. Yes you can go higher, and yes you may see a difference... If it is not, then that person should buy the $1100+ monitors. * 100% sRGB is really good... In fact that is the rating of most high end ultra wide gaming IPS monitors priced at $1100+.
I have a 980ti and a Dell 27" Gsync 144hz monitor. I've already sold my Dell to upgrade to the Vast. In the interim, I am now using an older BenQ 144hz gaming monitor. I've actually changed the BenQ to go from 144 to 100 (vice versa) just to see a difference.... I did not.... Maybe others can, but at least for me I didnt see it.
I also have a BenQ zowie gaming "Console" monitor @ 60hz. Its perfect for my PS4. But when I do connect my gaming PC to it, it is obvious that investing on a panel at 100hz+ is worth while for pc gaming. I would even say more important to invest on a good pc monitor first, graphics card next.
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