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Massdrop Veil Wind Shell

Jan 30, 2018

Hello everyone, We’re thrilled to present our newest Massdrop product: the Veil Wind Shell. At 2.7 ounces, it’s light and packs down small enough to always carry with you. Wind shells are a critical piece of nearly any outdoor lover's kit, whether you’re running, backpacking, day hiking, or mountain biking. So why doesn't everyone own or use a wind shell? Not Breathable: The most popular wind shells have zero breathability, which means you'll sweat as soon as you start exercising, even during low-output activities like walking. This includes such jackets as the Patagonia Houdini and Mountain Hardwear Ghost Lite. Look and Feel: The sweat-inducing fabrics most commonly used tend to feel plastic-y and are really shiny, which not everybody likes. I've frequently heard that they look and feel like you're wearing a garbage bag. Price: Typically, wind shells cost between $90 and $140. For those of you who have and use your wind shell, the cost is usually worth it, despite the downsides (look, feel, breathability). But for any of you who haven't tried it out, the cost can seem unnecessarily high for what seems like a super simple item, and one that often is thought of only as an emergency piece. The Benefit Isn't Obvious: The most common use case for a wind shell is that it is a just-in-case item—like if you get caught in a storm or cold front, this light, packable jacket will protect you just enough so you can get back to camp or your car. Runners often use a wind shell as a warm-up piece, and then stow it away for the rest of their run. But there are a multitude of other uses . . . Well, we heard you, so we worked with the top mill to make a custom fabric that addresses these issues. Then, the jacket is made in the highest-quality factory with a design and fit that makes this an unbeatable all-around piece. We'll go into production as soon as the drop ends with delivery in Summer. So here it is:

Windproof and Breathable: It's challenging to make a fabric that is both breathable and windproof (so body humidity can get out but cold air can't get in). The fabric we've developed has some breathability, which means you'll stay comfortable longer. It extends the jacket’s use from being just an emergency item to being possible to wear all day long for low-intensity activities (like hiking and traveling) and still work well for biking and running. Aesthetics: We worked with the mill to create a fabric that is high performance AND good looking/feeling. It took a lot of back-and-forth to create just the right fabric. We wanted to make this jacket comfortable feeling and good looking enough to wear around town, while commuting, and while traveling. Highest Performance-to-Price Ratio: Thanks to our business model, smart sourcing, and working directly with the mill and manufacturer, we've been able to cut out all of the fat and give you the best bang for the buck anywhere. An Essential Item: A great wind jacket protects you from the wind, of course, but also can be used for so much more. For low-activity sports, you can wear it all day long in mild weather while maintaining a comfortable body temperature. The roll-away hood makes this better for cycling, and I use it daily on my bike commute. It is significantly warmer than a long-sleeve base layer while being much lighter and more packable. It protects against mosquitoes. You can use it for light rain, like we see here in California. I carry a wind shell instead of a rain shell for 8 months of the year (note: this is not waterproof, but it'll resist precip better than a base layer). And it adds significant warmth when worn over a lightweight down jacket.*

A note on fit: This jacket has an athletic cut. If you generally wear medium, then a medium Veil will fit over a T-shirt or base layer. If you intend to wear it over a thicker fleece or down jacket, then go up one size. For reference, the model is 5’11”, 160 lbs, and always wears a medium in other brands. He is wearing a medium Veil over a thin fleece. In the future, we will strive to offer women’s sizes as well. We are providing two ways to figure out the best fit for you: first is the jacket measurements, so you can compare to an existing jacket, and second is the recommended size for your body measurements. Jacket Dimensions

User Body Measurements

I think you'll find that once you get the Veil, it'll become your go-to piece for so many of your adventures and daily errands. I know I have. - Danny * "Putting a windshirt over a hooded [down jacket] was a DRAMATIC system insulation improvement even without the added benefit of blocking the wind." - Richard Nisley, https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/86574/#post-2064835

(Edited by moderator LukasM)

Jan 30, 2018

FozzyDude

Feb 1, 2018

DannyMilksI own two wind shirts, one made by Rab and the other by La Sportiva. The Rab is made with Pertex Quantum and the La Sportiva is unknown but it is nylon. Both work well. I have used them in high altitude environments with great success when worn UNDER the insulating layer rather than over.

Feb 1, 2018

HubeyDoobyDoo

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Feb 2, 2018

DannyMilksWell done Danny, looks great!

Feb 2, 2018

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Tctower12

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Feb 4, 2018

FozzyDudeI also own the Rab in Pertex Quantum and would often us it the same way , under my puffy almost as a vapor barrier and so it didn’t compress the puffy. It was my most versatile piece on the PCT last summer. At 4 oz it was also probably the most useful per oz if such a ratio exists

Feb 4, 2018

Mr.P

Feb 8, 2018

DannyMilksHi Danny, Congratulations on an awesome product category for MD. I have sent an email to partnerships@massdrop.com not knowing how to reach you via email for possible collaboration opportunities.
Looking forward to hear back from you soon
Phil

Feb 8, 2018

kim.suarez

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Outdoors & Ultralight Collaborations

Aug 13, 2018

Mr.PHi Phil! Sorry to just see this but I'm not sure I've received anything, unless Danny had replied to you before he left? Since he's not here anymore, you can reach me directly at kim.suarez@massdrop.com and I've love to chat projects!

Aug 13, 2018

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csdf1

Oct 9, 2018

DannyMilksThis looks awesome! Any chance you'll make a women's version? (or smaller unisex sizes)

Oct 9, 2018

kim.suarez

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Outdoors & Ultralight Collaborations

Oct 9, 2018

csdf1We did sample one and I'd love to make a Women's version. We're a bit stuck as we have high minimums on the production but not enough women interested. :( I'd buy one in a second!

Oct 9, 2018