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Jonman
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Jun 7, 2018
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Looking for more information on dac but end up with a bunch of keyboard protesters boycotting a product their weren't going buy or afford in the first place. What a bunch cool kids we got here. Airist got caught buying a part from an oem, who unbeknownst to Airist, copied the design from someone else. Plain and simple. Just a case of shit happens.
TramicusRex
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Jun 7, 2018
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Jonman...Till it's your shit.
Integrity takes courage. I hope its only you eventually paying the price for your lack of it, and that you'll at least keep your bile hole shut when the fruit of your 'perspective' comes to kick the fuck out of you, as you've hereby requested.
Integrity takes courage. I hope its only you eventually paying the price for your lack of it, and that you'll at least keep your bile hole shut when the fruit of your 'perspective' comes to kick the fuck out of you, as you've hereby requested.
Jonman
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Jun 7, 2018
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TramicusRexI am a contract engineer for the government so all of my original work is copied and 2 manager tiers above me get all the credit and bonuses. It completely blows me away how naive you must be. In the real world you are a pawn and people are glad to take your carrots and but when the stick comes along its yours. So you always do your best and move on.
This is 40 year old technology, the only original thing we are talking about is the pcb layout and the reason it isnt copyrighted or patent-able is because its fucking pointless. You could use some real world experience and some perspective you naive brat. It is obvious your integrity has not be tested.
TramicusRex
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Jun 7, 2018
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JonmanThan you more than most understand the price of the attitude of your previous post.
Your validation of it does not come from the place of laypeople and won't be understood by them as you fully intended.
Which brings two problems even if this is not a clear case. Feeding a general 'who cares' attitude about these issues and dynamics make the shit pile deeper and speeds its growth .
Misunderstood or not your voice if not careful contributes to a massive swath of carelessness corroding and putting under immense pressure the underlying capacity of commercial activity to deliver what is needed from it. It threatens as much or more the stability of all of our political and social frameworks.
The argument for giving you the due you deserve for your creations evaporates if the ethos of respecting anyone's right to personal credit evaporates beneath it.
As do the resources needed to practically and philosophically promote its pairing with financial compensation.
The one which still provides your livelihood however eviscerated it or your ownership of it has become.
Certainly you of all ought not allow your voice to accelerate this dynamic. You more than most have a responsibility to be careful about the way you treat the subject, especially when describing limits of your concern on a general public forum
(This interface is terrible, I'm truncating my reply. )
The basis for your dismissal of the concern is incomplete to the point of being ridiculous- Youd fail that claim just as well for the internal combustion engine or the vacuum cleaner. Bullshit.
Your work may be authored by those up the chain and govt is soft on its property but still your credit doesn't vanish and you still get paid for that work. If the govt weren't held to ethical standards your boss could skip the walk to your cubicle, call up OEM like the one in question and become a gravy cutting hero. You throw others overboard with that attitude while happily protected by standards you mockingly dismiss.
Once youre past the first gig out of school and step into commercial work you'll find a legal department at every serious company busy making sure those signing off your plans and paying your salary aren't being robbed blind. ...so they can continue pay you and feed your kids.
If this bozo snooped around and now intends to walk away with false credit and cash for an implementation carried out by a hobbiest in the service of his community, or worse has sponged and disrupted someone's rightful commercial viability, than for its apathy if not dishonesty and spin alone- or its attempt- this company and his deserve failure and disrepute.
And as an engineer (really now...) whose livelihood depends on what remains of the structures of good faith to pay for work done there is no excuse not to do better for the business that feeds you.
And if you think justifying rounded standards wont bite you because to some extent it's already part of the deal then my naivty is the least youve got to worry about.
Your validation of it does not come from the place of laypeople and won't be understood by them as you fully intended.
Which brings two problems even if this is not a clear case. Feeding a general 'who cares' attitude about these issues and dynamics make the shit pile deeper and speeds its growth .
Misunderstood or not your voice if not careful contributes to a massive swath of carelessness corroding and putting under immense pressure the underlying capacity of commercial activity to deliver what is needed from it. It threatens as much or more the stability of all of our political and social frameworks.
The argument for giving you the due you deserve for your creations evaporates if the ethos of respecting anyone's right to personal credit evaporates beneath it.
As do the resources needed to practically and philosophically promote its pairing with financial compensation.
The one which still provides your livelihood however eviscerated it or your ownership of it has become.
Certainly you of all ought not allow your voice to accelerate this dynamic. You more than most have a responsibility to be careful about the way you treat the subject, especially when describing limits of your concern on a general public forum
(This interface is terrible, I'm truncating my reply. )
The basis for your dismissal of the concern is incomplete to the point of being ridiculous- Youd fail that claim just as well for the internal combustion engine or the vacuum cleaner. Bullshit.
Your work may be authored by those up the chain and govt is soft on its property but still your credit doesn't vanish and you still get paid for that work. If the govt weren't held to ethical standards your boss could skip the walk to your cubicle, call up OEM like the one in question and become a gravy cutting hero. You throw others overboard with that attitude while happily protected by standards you mockingly dismiss.
Once youre past the first gig out of school and step into commercial work you'll find a legal department at every serious company busy making sure those signing off your plans and paying your salary aren't being robbed blind. ...so they can continue pay you and feed your kids.
If this bozo snooped around and now intends to walk away with false credit and cash for an implementation carried out by a hobbiest in the service of his community, or worse has sponged and disrupted someone's rightful commercial viability, than for its apathy if not dishonesty and spin alone- or its attempt- this company and his deserve failure and disrepute.
And as an engineer (really now...) whose livelihood depends on what remains of the structures of good faith to pay for work done there is no excuse not to do better for the business that feeds you.
And if you think justifying rounded standards wont bite you because to some extent it's already part of the deal then my naivty is the least youve got to worry about.
Jonman
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Jun 8, 2018
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TramicusRexOh my god. I am talking to a freshman humanity major that sounds likes Joey finding a thesaurus for the first time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s0LqZMsfTQ) and has no concept of the common practice of purchasing off the shelf parts.
TramicusRex
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Jun 8, 2018
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JonmanIf that was all this is then massdrop had an easy case to make.
Given the relative ease of that argument and the general worldwide concern for this issue they should long have been making it.
They are otherwise keen marketers. Odd they've handled this so incompetently.
Meantime piss ant, frosh week Disappointment, take your disdain and shove it along with your ready categorizations and backward baseball caps up your sorry, disdended ass.
Given the relative ease of that argument and the general worldwide concern for this issue they should long have been making it.
They are otherwise keen marketers. Odd they've handled this so incompetently.
Meantime piss ant, frosh week Disappointment, take your disdain and shove it along with your ready categorizations and backward baseball caps up your sorry, disdended ass.
Jonman
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Jun 8, 2018
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TramicusRexSimply, because Airist is trying to market it as a original design rather than a bunch of oem parts and now they got to stick with their story.
Just a little advance, question everyone and think for yourself. You youngsters can be a little gullible. Socialism doesn't work.
Just a little advance, question everyone and think for yourself. You youngsters can be a little gullible. Socialism doesn't work.
TramicusRex
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Jun 8, 2018
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JonmanGiven your chosen perspective in this instance you can not be trusted to determine whether this is simply a collection of OEM parts, comment on the pedigree of those parts, or be honest about it if in fact youd bother to take the time.
(Lol btw Both socialist and capitalist approaches will certainly fail unless attempted ably and broadly in good faith.
Socialists are currently giving it their very worst shot and your attitude toward this basic provision of capitalist success is not any more helpful. Your perspective and attitude make you an impediment to progress whichever political vantage you take
And only an idiot would needlessly break out assumptions like that.)
This argument is not difficult either way- you'd have spent less effort outlining a proper technical argument and leaving it at that, which would have been appreciated by all. Thats the way the engineers I know handle things like this. Real engineers... lol.
I suspect like your Airest example you aren't really as blase about IP infringement as your post suggested and were caught out by my reaction to your expression.
It takes an adult to admit a mistake, but don't worry, boy. I got your back.
(Lol btw Both socialist and capitalist approaches will certainly fail unless attempted ably and broadly in good faith.
Socialists are currently giving it their very worst shot and your attitude toward this basic provision of capitalist success is not any more helpful. Your perspective and attitude make you an impediment to progress whichever political vantage you take
And only an idiot would needlessly break out assumptions like that.)
This argument is not difficult either way- you'd have spent less effort outlining a proper technical argument and leaving it at that, which would have been appreciated by all. Thats the way the engineers I know handle things like this. Real engineers... lol.
I suspect like your Airest example you aren't really as blase about IP infringement as your post suggested and were caught out by my reaction to your expression.
It takes an adult to admit a mistake, but don't worry, boy. I got your back.
Jonman
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Jun 8, 2018
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TramicusRexWhere have I shown any doubt in my stance? I have given simple explanations to all your inquires and all you have provided is meaningless responses with vulgar insults. And again you end your response trying to belittle my experience by calling my boy. But with each of my responses I gain endorsements from the community. I have already won by being the adult in the "debate". So go find something else better to do because it is tiring having to explain simple concepts to you.
TramicusRex
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Jun 8, 2018
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JonmanIve belittled you in response to your belittlement. And look at your opening post, idiot.
I agree however it would be best to stop.
The support you've garnered is likely predicated on your claim to be an engineer. People are like that.
Whether or not those qualifications are relevent depend on the direction of the argument.
You have not at all sufficiently argued away relevent IP concern for this case on technical grounds despite your qualifications.
Neither is your offer of 'shit happens' inspiring to the dwindling number of human beings decent enough to care about the issue.
If you based that attitude on any applied technical assessment you failed to convey that or as yet prove it.
Given its creep, near ubiquity and its international concern your attitude suggests you either enjoy coming here and playing it cool for laypeople or you are not in fact a person with any stake in the outcome. Or else door number 3, you care but not really.
Given the lack of substantiation you've provided and in light of your attitude whatever it's reasons, in neither case should your opinion on this product be trusted whether you are an engineer as you claim or not. And based on your behaviour I doubt it.
Btw I'm likely old enough to be your father and have connectors that cost more than this. And I was fully interested in buying it.
" Caught buying from an OEM who took it from someone, unbeknownst to Airist...' isnt legally or technically sufficient. Are you an engineer or are you not? Why would you say it? And we're naive are we?
Whose responsibility shall it be then? And what to say of those willing to turn around as they continue the chain?
I agree however it would be best to stop.
The support you've garnered is likely predicated on your claim to be an engineer. People are like that.
Whether or not those qualifications are relevent depend on the direction of the argument.
You have not at all sufficiently argued away relevent IP concern for this case on technical grounds despite your qualifications.
Neither is your offer of 'shit happens' inspiring to the dwindling number of human beings decent enough to care about the issue.
If you based that attitude on any applied technical assessment you failed to convey that or as yet prove it.
Given its creep, near ubiquity and its international concern your attitude suggests you either enjoy coming here and playing it cool for laypeople or you are not in fact a person with any stake in the outcome. Or else door number 3, you care but not really.
Given the lack of substantiation you've provided and in light of your attitude whatever it's reasons, in neither case should your opinion on this product be trusted whether you are an engineer as you claim or not. And based on your behaviour I doubt it.
Btw I'm likely old enough to be your father and have connectors that cost more than this. And I was fully interested in buying it.
" Caught buying from an OEM who took it from someone, unbeknownst to Airist...' isnt legally or technically sufficient. Are you an engineer or are you not? Why would you say it? And we're naive are we?
Whose responsibility shall it be then? And what to say of those willing to turn around as they continue the chain?
Wamcky
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Aug 10, 2018
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TramicusRexWhy not move along if your not interested? Do you always stick your nose up strange asses?
TramicusRex
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Aug 21, 2018
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WamckyIf you really felt that way you wouldn't have chimed in yourself.
You'll have noticed this was long over. Making your post still more puzzling
In partial answer you'll recognize my motivation was constructive. And yours...?
You'll have noticed this was long over. Making your post still more puzzling
In partial answer you'll recognize my motivation was constructive. And yours...?
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