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Massdrop x Alex Cavalli Liquid Carbon X Amp

Massdrop x Alex Cavalli Liquid Carbon X Amp

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Please help me someone! I need to know the shipping weigh and the dimensions of the box in which Massdrop sends this Amp in the States. Thanx
So is the difference between this one and the LCX+SDAC is that the latter has the DAC built in??
Mark_M
Yes!
user193294
Hmm okay. Cause I'm wondering if this is worth it over my current Aune X7S? I finally have a balanced cable for my HD6XX which I bought from Periapt. But I notice a lot of "microphonic" noise from the cable if it rubs against anything such as my clothing. Perhaps it's better to stay with SE cable and not worry about going balanced.
<100 dB SINAD, so not very good.
If i where to buy the Sennheiser hd 6XX would it work on this amp/dac? Additionally would i get the best experience out of it? (sorry not an audiophile and don't relay no much about headphones)
Any suggestions for a balanced cable to connect a DAP to the LCX that will not break the bank? Needs a 2.5mm trrs male to dual male 3 pin XLR. Recently bought one from a reputable company after discussing it with them, only to hear more hiss than music. Thank you.
RM28
The 2.5mm TRRS is balanced stereo output right? This is easy to go into a single 4-pin XLR, but a bit harder to make right when going into dual 3-pin XLRs. Reason being a 4-pin in audio just uses 1+/1- and 2+/2- with no ground connected, same as a stereo balanced TRRS. A 3-pin XLR uses 1+, 1-, and G. It is possible that the people who made the cable connected the negative signals from the TRRS to the ground pin of the XLR, or bridged the ground and negatives in the XLRs. Best to just open the cable you got and check things. There are also other configurations for TRRS, so make sure you have a stereo balanced output, and not unbalanced stereo with microphone. Only the balanced configuration will be compatible, with the unbalanced ones leading to issues when connecting since the ground is shared between channels and will not feed the amp properly at all on a balanced input. If you have unbalanced stereo TRRS, then you will want to convert that into dual RCAs and use those unbalanced inputs instead.
EniGmA1987
Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. My understanding from what you wrote is that it is unlikely that I will find a viable option for what I was hoping to do, at least not without spending more on cables than the LCX cost. Although it won't be a completely balanced setup, I can still use the DAP's 3.5 mm to RCA to LCX then 4 pin balanced out from there as i have read that others have done. Again, I do appreciate your reply very much. Robert
Buy this or the THX 789 or stick with my Aune X7S?
Mark_M
THX is a much better amp. I do like the sound of this one, but it has terrible distortion specs.
EniGmA1987
Hmm okay. So just better to wait for the THX 789 to drop again. I have an Aune X7S right now paired with the SDAC.
why are there so many clones of this amp? my brain is melting!
Would I be able to use this with a Sony pshx-500 turntable to play music through headphones? 
What does “SE Pass” on the back panel RCA jacks mean? Are these volume independent Line Outs? So aggravating that the amp has no manual. Is one available online?
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Sujay Rao
Single ended passthrough. Signal goes in through red/white jacks. Comes out via red/white jacks.
work well with gaming?
Hi Everyone, The Massdrop x Alex Cavalli Liquid Carbon X Amps have arrived at the warehouse and the team is wrapping up quality control checks. We are on track to meet our estimated ship date of February 28. We're looking forward to everyone receiving the first production of the Massdrop x Alex Cavalli Liquid Carbon X Amp!
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AveryC
Can we get another drop please?
AveryC
Are you planning to drop this again? I see the SDAC version is live, but I don't need the internal DAC so would avoid unnecessary extra costs.
NEED this, Massdrop
@CEE_TEE Just wondering when is the CLCX amp dropping again ? It would be very much appreciated ! Hope you have a great day !
PaganD
Coming very soon!
Any chance we could get an official comment on the disparity between the stated specs and the measurements from Audio Science Review? They paint a poor picture for this amp, disappointingly.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-cavalli-liquid-carbon-x.4947/
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" I liked the amp tone but had to sell to fund for monoprice liquid platinum. Thx amp is 100x cleaner imo. Liquid platinum is paradise to my ears. " Right there you are comparing this amp to the Liquid Platinum. Do you not know what you even said?
EniGmA1987
I said the thx amp is cleaner. I never compared the monoprice platinum to the liquid carbon x. You misread everything.
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For what purpose besides having 2 different, similar looking amps would one stack with CTH? Use CTH as a tube preamp or to have one balanced SS and a single ended tube amp?
Manbear
to have one SS and one tube, My MD+ iems like my Magni 3 more because they already sound laid back enough, but the magni3 doesn't play well with my over ears like the CTH does
hello
i just received my LCX (484) amplifier, but it did not have the instructions.
is there anything that i need to know before using it? or is it just to turn it off before changing headphones?
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imak
I just got mine as well, 486 =) A little soft on SE output. Expected louder sound on the 4-pin output. But I was using non-balanced DAC, so I'm not sure how much difference a real Balanced DAC would be. *shrugs*
Does Cavalli (or anyone in the know) read comments by any chance? I have a 28V Acopian PSU for the CTH and was wondering if the slight undervolt would work with the 30V Liquid Carbon X or not a chance... wanted to possibly hear it from the "horses" mouth :)
naa3e5
It should be fine. You may not get every single ounce of volume out of it at full gain, but when would you actually ever turn it to full max?
What is a good budget DAC with balanced output for this amp?
ricardopei
either the new massdrop x grace dac with balanced ($150) or the smsl su 8 ($250)
Senpai-sama
I ended up getting a refurbed Cambridge Audio DACmagic Plus for about $275. ($350 new)
How does this compare to Matrix hpa 3b? the internals on the matrix looks much more convincing where as the components used in the liquid carbon x looks abit sketchy
Anyone with experience with both the LCX and the Cayin iHA-6? My eye was originally set on the LCX but since it didn't come back before my upgraditis reached it's breaking point I went with the Cayin. Don't really need another amp at this point but I've been eyeing the LC since the original limited run. At this price curiosity again rears it's ugly head...
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Oh trust me, the Cayin isn't going anywhere... love mine as well. Not to get too off topic, which DAC are you pairing your's with?
ElectronicVices
jdslabs el dac until i can get a rme adi-2
Question... I am wondering if the LCX is worth getting in my situation...
I currently have the following DACs and amps
Topping D50 DAC NFB 11.38 (with integrated DAC & Amp) iFi xDSD (with integrated DAC & Amp) CTH Amp Aune X7s Amp MD O2 Amp
The cans I usually use are:
Focal Elex Sundara 1990 DT Pro Aeon Flow Closed TH-X00 HD660s HD58X
Would the LCX offer a sufficiently different sound with the cans I use to make sense for me? How different would it be?
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jsmiller58
You should really look at the DarkVoice 336SE OTL. That is my next purchase. They supposedly make the Senns HD sing.
But, I have the Topping D50 paired with my Aune X7S and love that combo. I am looking at the Focal Elexs too -- how do you like them? Those cans or the Hifiman's he4xx. Decisions, decisions. . . .
PorchSong
Thanks for the suggestion! I have been thinking about the DV!
The Topping D50 I think pairs well with just about anything - decodes the bits faithfully, and generally stays out of the way of the chosen Amp and headphones!
As to the Elex, I have them and they are my favorite headphones that I own. Extremely dynamic, good sound signature from bass to treble. Clear and a bit bright. They can get tiring when paired with a bright amp (for example not the greatest pairing with my NFB 11.38, but sound great driven by the X7s). If you like the warmer (at least by comparison) sound and thundering bass of something like the TH-X00, the Elex might not be to your liking, though.
I don't have the 4XX, but I do have the Sundara. I would say I like the cleaner, more dynamic sound of the Elex. But I do like the Sundara as well and if the 4XX have a similar sound signature I would think they are great cans as well.
Any chance to see full specs of the unit? I mean things like SNR?
About damn time
Finally
Finally
Yes, finally. Thank you.
I have just read through some posts here and find myself dismayed that manufacturers would build and sell a "conversion" cable from three wire single ended to four wire balanced. It is hard enough for new audiophiles to get real info without predatory companies muddying up the waters. This only proves that many companies don't care and will gloss over (lie) facts about their products. If they will do this for small cable adapters, imagine what the advertising for commercial products do. I have decades of experience with audio and can only suggest that ALL adapters are suspect. If you need an adapter to connect two things together, it is likely they are not compatible and they chose connectors to prevent improper interconnection of devices. I am pleased Massdrop placed the warning in the box and you read it! You get an "A".
scottDH
4-pin to TRS is fine as long as the TRS is going into the SE output of the amp, it's just creating a common ground in that case.
Hello all, I have used my CLC now for a few months and really enjoy listening to music on it. My Shure SRH 1840's are not known for their bass, but the CLC seems to improve it. I have not done a direct comparison between the CLC and CTH amps, but the CLC seems to be tighter in the low frequencies. Liquid is an apt model name for this amp, it is very smooth and free of edge. I should note that I am using it in SE only for now. I can drive it balanced but can't use the balanced out as yet. Very nice design, I am pleased to own such a fine sounding amp at a price mortals can afford.
scottDH
I note that most of you are refering to the Liquid Carbon X as LCX. I noted this after I used CLC in my post. Sorry to create confusion; I was using Cavelli Liquid Carbon initials. Same amp.
Hi guys I have my CLC for couple of months and can’t complain about it, but couple of days I had to move it to another place and when I plug power supply in it it start sparkling.It does every time when I unplugged it and plug it back.
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I don't get it. Don't you guys switch off the power before connecting a power cable?
VBar
Electronics 101, make all connections BEFORE connecting to a power outlet.
My LCX +SDAC just arrived, and maybe I'm slow but I can't seem to use the RCA passthrough from the LCX to my CTH?
helicopters
I think it's only a passthrough for an external dac
helicopters
Are you using the Balanced input on the LCX by any chance? I believe the RCA passthrough is only fed by the Single Ended input.