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Drop + Brad Zinker Dogtooth Frame Lock Knife

May 3, 2018

Another great knife with a serious flaw - the lame choil cut out on the blade. I use knives hard, and the best blade real estate is right up close to the handle, where the most power can be made. If a knife is designed well, there is no need to put your finger there, and it says to me that this knife cannot handle hard use. This is also why I will never buy a Ferrum Forge knife.

AtticusVulpes

124

May 3, 2018

ThirdmemberNot sure what you mean by this. I own the falcon, and for a small knife, it can take a beating. Are you saying that a finger coil is a sign that it can't? It's really just an alternative grip for more dexterity.

Thirdmember

May 3, 2018

AtticusVulpesI am not saying the knives are weak - but for me a choil is a waste of valuable blade space. Putting your finger there may seem like a way to get "closer" but if the handle is designed well, you can get close without the discomfort of placing your finger on the blade itself. The most powerful cuts are made at the base of the blade, a choil takes that away and renders the knife less useful. So, when I see a big finger choil I see a knife that can't be used to its fullest potential. Also, have you ever gone to quickly cut something like a rope just to have it snag in the stupid finger choil? Lame.

AtticusVulpes

124

May 3, 2018

ThirdmemberAh, makes sense. Though, a flipper will always increase the distance between the grip point and blade. Unless you count front flippers.

jphares

May 4, 2018

ThirdmemberI think that it's a sharpening choil rather than a finger choil; it appears to be too small to use as a finger choil to me. That being said and from what I can tell looking at the pictures, I think that it could have been a little bit smaller for a just a sharpening choil; maybe it also implements a design aesthetic. Personally, I'd have liked the choil to be a little smaller, but I may love it in-hand.

Dhill21

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May 5, 2018

ThirdmemberWhy I use a serrated for line (rope). I'm getting this knife for off duty daily use. My work knife is a Benchmade 917sbk

JenWrath

May 7, 2018

ThirdmemberBeing able to choke up on a blade is why I take that blade style exclusively when I need to get work done. I work on a farm maybe 3~4 months out of the year and mainly use a spyderco, hinderer or strider when I go out on the property. Scoring, bag or rope cutting, improve silverware, mini-shovel and whittler. There's a long list of things I put the knives through on a regular basis, in addition to random things that pop up.
I do hard work with those knives and absolutely love the ability to choke up on the blade. I like the blade to be as close to an extension of my hand as possible when doing any work that involves control - regardless of blade size. Hell, even in an city/office setting being able to choke up on a smaller blade helps it look all the more non-threatening to non-knife people.
Close friend of mine hates using choils and prefers there to be a guard built into the handle like in most Benchmade designs - but he doesn't go around claiming that a very popular design choice is actually a flaw of some kind. He buys the knives that work for him. Dude wouldn't be caught dead with most Spydies in his hand.

Thirdmember

May 7, 2018

JenWrathFor me a finger choil is a design flaw. For you, obviously not. Everyone has their preferences. I detest the wasted blade space. I work knives harder than most people, though. I usually use puukkos without any guard (I don't like guards either, they get in the way). I also hate serrated blades. To each their own - but, if manufacturers want to sell to more people they should offer options. Why does every Ferrum Forge waste an inch of blade for a choil? I guess they don't want to sell to everyone.

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Grimmwolf

May 9, 2018

ThirdmemberFor a full sized knife, I would probably agree with you. Looking at the sizing specs and whatnot, as well as knowing how Zinker proportions his designs, the choil is actually kind of necessary for those with larger hands. My only gripe about the choil is that it looks to be an oversized sharpening choil, not a full sized finger choil. That I can't blame on the design, but on the grind geometry. Had the profiling on the compound grind been reversed, they could have brought the heel of the blade back, there for eliminating the need for such a large choil

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