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dude63
14
Jul 8, 2018
I just spent some time reading opinions on BPL, reddit and this string here; plus looked at Yama, TT, SD, Lightheart and a few others. My clear conclusion: There are enough innovations here to call this a fresh design. And a promising one.
The reason for some out-of-line commentary from competitors is likely the price point. This alone is threatening to anyone in the industry. Then pair it with an acceptable low weight in a clearly well thought out design by an individual with a strong background, and you start to erode the establishment's hold on the market with the power of a strong spring run-off.
mbeeezy
78
Jul 9, 2018
dude63You looked at SD and didn't find this to be similar to the High Route? I saw this and immediately knew what it was, even with the inner tent rotated. I don't say that in a negative manner - I had the High Route and LOVED it, just sold it because I needed a 2P for me + my dog. I think this is very similar to it, though this tent has a much more reasonable price point and a MUCH better weight. Those 2 factors alone would likely make it superior should manufacturing go as planned. I have been waiting for someone to drop something similar to the HR that could be used for 2 people, but alas, I shall have to wait.
mbeeezyThe HR is basically a TT StratoSpire with the vestibules deleted. If you want something similar for 2P, the TarpTent StratoSpire2 is your best bet. My wife and I have used and like the StratoSpire. I do think something better is possible, but any attempt from me is a long ways off.
Regarding the X-Mid vs the HR, I've discussed this in a few other comments, but the rotated inner really changes everything about the tent. It allows the poles/peaks to be moved inwards from the edges so you don't have vertical side walls that catch wind and require more stakes and guylines. It also changes the entire floor plan so everything works so much better. Besides eliminating the vertical side walls, the diagonal inner creates generous vestibules vs. almost none in the HR. So the wider base + rotated inner + internal peaks are key innovations that solves the main downsides of the HR. It basically lets you have the benefits of a hexagon base (vestibules, no guylines) without the downsides (more stakes and pitching complexity).
Note that no tent in history (that I'm aware of) has used a diagonal inner inside a rectangular fly. So the basic layout of the X-Mid is unprecedented. The two similarities with the HR are the use of a rectangle base (which hundreds or thousands of tents throughout history have used) and the diagonal ridgeline, which is less common but still found on several tents (HR, TT, Yama). The use of the rotated inner is a key innovation that finally enables the diagonal ridgeline to work inside a rectangle without downsides. So compared to the HR, the X-Mid is simpler to pitch (fewer stakes, no mandatory guylines), more storm worthy, far lighter and offers a lot more area (vestibules). As I've mentioned elsewhere, the rectangle is a breath of fresh air for pitching, as rectangles are so much easier to stake out than hexagons (or worse).
mbeeezy
78
Jul 9, 2018
dandurstonThat's really good info - one of the things I loved about the HR when I had it was it's wind-shedding capabilities, but never got caught in any serious downpours, so can't attest to it's stormworthiness. And you are absolutely right about the lack of vestibules - my gear was pretty crammed and partially exposed to the elements virtually every time I used it, so probably a good thing I never got caught in bad rain. I'll look into the StratoSpire2. I've been perusing the TTs for a while, just couldn't decide which would work best for us. I appreciate your feedback and look forward to your 2P design later (I creeped that response on someone else's post.) Your commitment to your product speaks volumes!