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thughummus
5
Sep 5, 2018
I’m moving to Scotland, was thinking about getting a trailstar there for double wall Protection when I don’t use my minimalist mid tarp (ie when lots of rain might be expected, or bug season), which is kind of the default choice for Scotland. It’s also nice as there are 2p aftermarket inners available (and without inner itd Have plenty of space for 2), so gives more options there.
The large footprint of both is a negative. I wonder if the extra largeness of the trailstar (which I see people pitch over rocks and bushes) + it Being a lot more flexible in pitching is better than the x-mids more  “normal” but still large footprint for places where site selection is less available.
x-mid would appear to be nicer to wait out a storm in, unless it’s Truly horrific. And the trailstar might be easier to cook in?
Decisions decisions.
thughummusBoth the X-Mid and Trailstar are good storm tents, but in a very different sort of way. The Trailstar is the high winds champion, whereas I think the X-Mid is basically the best tent in rainy/wet conditions.
The reasons I say the X-Mid is the best in the rainy wet are: (1) It sets up really fast, so when weather rolls in you can be inside very quick (2) Fly first pitch keeps the inner dry (3) Fly overhangs the doors so falling rain doesn't get in (4) Tons of vestibule space for wet gear (5) Double wall design protects you from condensation (6) No sag polyester fabric won't sag like nylon (7) Dual vents that are large and functional (8) Steep walls let condensation run down the panel instead of dripping onto the sleeping area.
Many tents have some of these attributes, but no other tent has all of them as far as I am aware.
So compared to the Trailstar specifically, the X-Mid is much simpler to pitch, and would handle humidity/condensation much better since it has two large vents (vs. none) and steep walls so condensation doesn't drip on you. Whereas the Trailstar has very low wall angles so it's super in high winds.
A few other comments: - the X-Mid can easily sleep two without the inner - the X-Mid is very easy to cook in since you have dual vestibules and these are both large and tall (see video). - if the terrain was bouldery where tent sites were hard to find, indeed the Trailstar could be pitched over the boulders and then you could nestle in between them to sleep, whereas the X-Mid requires less area, but wouldn't so easily pitch over top of boulders, except you could have one in the vestibule in a pinch.
thughummus
5
Sep 5, 2018
dandurstonCheers Dan. The scenarios where each excel are different, but I also don’t need to end up with half a dozen shelters:)
The condensation management of the x-mid is a big plus. Simplicity is really nice (And less stakes). In the end is comes down to which one will be less terrible to sit a storm in. The trailstar is a known quantity here. Great in big Uk winds. Lots of space to keep everything dry and to cook. But if you need to pitch low it’s not fun to hang out in. more likely to sleep well at least and in worst case scenarios it’ll be one of the most likely shelters to stay up, unless the wind does a 180. The Xmid is going to be more livable with enough space, but is perhaps more terrifying in big Winds...
I don’t need one right now, but if you do make a semi solid inner down the line will there be a way for people who already own the shelter to pick one up afterMarket?
TallCarl
3
Sep 21, 2018
dandurstonWith regard to sleeping two, and since you've done such an exceptionally thorough job in the other comparisons here - are you able to compare the usable space of a fly-only X-Mid setup with a BD Beta Light?
TallCarlSure.
To sleep two in the X-Mid you can just simply remove the inner and sleep two (below left), but because of the pole locations you end up a bit close to the edge:
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A better approach is to angle the poles a little bit so the pole bottoms are 4-5 inches closer to the centerline of the shelter. Like this, then the fly will still pitch robustly and two folks will fit more comfortably (above center). You can also have the sleepers on a bit of angle (above right) if you like that layout better.
Here is the X-Mid tarp compared to the Beta Light:
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As you can see, the X-Mid is certainly smaller since it's more of a 1P tent. The Beta Light is 13" wider (80 vs 67") but it is a bit oddly proportioned in the sense that it's quite short or square for a 2P tarp. It's 80" width is generous (for comparison a MLD DuoMid is 66" wide - similar to the X-Mid) but it's 98" length is short. Consider that a MLD recently increased the DuoMid to 110" in length (from 107") due to feedback that it was short. Of course a big difference is that the MLD is a single pole mid so the end walls slope in a lot more, but still, the Beta Light is on the short side of things. The X-Mid is only 2" longer, but it also has less wall slope on the end walls because the poles are closer to the ends (25" vs about 40"), so I expect the X-Mid would feel about 4" longer.
Anyways the Beta Light has more floor area, so as you might expect, it's heaver - but not actually that much (19oz vs 18oz). That's because the X-Mid is not only 2" longer but also 2" taller and quite a bit more fully featured in the sense that it has dual doors (versus one) and dual large vents (versus none).
Another consideration is that the Beta Light has big time catenary cut, so headroom actually dips a lot in the center. I think most manufacturers are over-doing catenary cut. Sure you want some, but only enough to have a nice pitch. When you over do it, you're just giving away headroom. It's actually more fabric for less space. So if you sit up in the center of the Beta Light, the roof is far lower than the 44" peak, whereas the X-Mid only dips about 4" off of it's 46" peaks so height in the center of the tent is maybe 34" vs 40":
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Anyways, despite the short length and less headroom, I do think the Beta Light would feel larger for two since it's 13" of extra width is substantial. So the bottom line comparison is that that while sleeping two isn't the X-Mids intended function, the advantages over the Beta Light are: - Dual doors (vs 1) - Dual vents (vs 0) - More headroom (46" peaks vs 44" peaks with big time catenary in between) - 2" wider - No sag poly (vs nylon) - 1oz lighter - $200 for tarp + inner (vs $200 for just the tarp)
And the advantages of the Beta Light are: - Substantially wider (80" vs 67") - Higher tear strength nylon
Ultimately, if I was buying a tarp for primarily 2P use it wouldn't be either of these. The X-Mid 1P is a one person shelter that can fit two under the tarp if you're packing light and minimal. The Beta Light is proper 2P tarp but still has some major downsides including a door that lets rain fall in the sleeping area, and not that much vestibule space. The X-Mid 2P tarp will be a couple ounces heavier than the Beta Light but will have much more liveable with more vestibule area, no poles in the living area, more volume and doors that don't let rain fall into the sleeping area.