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troublewithego
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Nov 3, 2018
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I'm super interested in this tent, but I'm not a trekking pole user and would rather not carry them around just for the sake of pitching my tent. Anyone know if I could make it work with two 45" carbon fiber poles?
Nov 3, 2018
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Nov 3, 2018
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troublewithegoHi TWE, Yes you can use other types of poles. Several companies offer folding or collapsing carbon poles that are lighter and cheaper than buying trekking poles. The most well known are the Ruta Locura 450 poles: http://www.rutalocura.com/Tent_Poles.html You can buy these with an 8" adjuster so that if the ground has a dip or bump you can still get the tent perfectly taut, or you can get a non-adjustable pole and just size it slightly too long so you can use that on a slight angle. Then even if the ground is dipped under the pole, it'll be long enough. You can also get these with a "spike" that is designed to fit into grommets, so they will connect well to the grommet in the X-Mid. I've discussed these in a few other posts on here, so if you want more detail do a search for "ruta locura". But to help you out, here is a post describing the ideal non-adjustable poles: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-dan-durston-x-mid-1p-tent/talk/2132936 And here is post describing the best choices for adjustable poles: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-dan-durston-x-mid-1p-tent/talk/2202703


Nov 3, 2018
troublewithego
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Nov 4, 2018
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dandurstonAwesome info and resources. Thanks, Dan!
Nov 4, 2018
bpchristensen
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Nov 17, 2018
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troublewithegoI used to scoff at people that used trekking poles. Until I picked up a pair of the Costco CF ones and used them on a weekend backpack trip. That turned me into a believer to the extent that I even use them on hunting trips when I’m also carrying a rifle or shotgun along with tripod and spotting scope. They are worth the weight and bulk. I also pitch a 2p shelter using a Slumberjack tarp in mild weather and it weighs about what this tent weighs, IIRC but has no floor, obviously.
Nov 17, 2018
scope
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Dec 3, 2018
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bpchristensenTook me not using poles to understand the value of having them. My hands bloat up if they're not held up when hiking. Had a pack with thumbholes, but never cared for them in that position. Poles always seemed like an "extra", but now I can't go without. They make a hike more enjoyable than a real light pack does. I have some expensive ones now, but the difference between cheap ones and expensive ones can be real subtle. I'd start off with cheap ones until you know how to appreciate them.
Dec 3, 2018
unsalted
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Feb 3, 2019
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dandurston@dandurston Would you say 124cm in too long to use as a dedicated tent pole? I'm considering these Easton CF poles as a cheaper alternative.
Feb 3, 2019
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Feb 3, 2019
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unsalted124cm (49") is a bit long but it would still work reasonably well. It would just be angled a fair bit so you'd want to angle it towards the end wall like the pink line below, not away like the green line:
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The tent will still pitch robustly like that. See this post if you want more detail on that: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-dan-durston-x-mid-1p-tent/talk/2332818 Where things start to get into trouble is when the pole is angled so much that is starts to block the door. But that would take a pole substantially longer than 49". If you're only concerned about getting a carbon pole at a lower price, I note that these aren't that much cheaper than Ruta Locura ($30 vs $38) so you save $8 but get a pole that is a bit long. I think a better option would be to build your own carbon pole. Quest Outfitters sells all the pieces here: https://www.questoutfitters.com/Tent_Poles_CF.htm So you could buy three 17" sections and then trim one of them shorter to get it to 47.5 - 48" (or trim each one by an inch). That would be $11 total for the three carbon sections and then another $4-$5 for the appropriate end caps and shockcord. I've purchased these before and it's not hard to put together. With this, you could get a perfectly sized Easton Carbon pole for under $20. With that said, the stiffness of these poles might be questionable. These are 0.350" poles, whereas the Ruta Locura poles are .450". I'm not sure if the version sold by Six Moon Designs is difference, but I'd guess it's 0.350" too. I also note TarpTent sells an aluminum 48" pole for $16 but it is 4oz instead of 2, so a pair of these would add 8oz rather than 4oz. https://www.tarptent.com/product/vertical-support-pole/
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Feb 3, 2019
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