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chalfredm
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Mar 30, 2019
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Curious how these do in high winds? I have always thought guylines were crucial in spreading out the force of the winds. I am interested in the next sale. How much were they selling for?
Mar 30, 2019
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Mar 30, 2019
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chalfredmWind performance is a pretty complex topic but in essence the wind profile of the tent determines the total stresses and then those stresses need to be distributed well. It's the combination of those two things that determines overall performance. With the X-Mid the wall slopes are designed to balance performance in the wind and snow. You can have really low wall angles that shed wind very well (e.g. MLD TrailStar) but then snow is a problem, or really steep walls that shed snow well (e.g. a very tall teepee) but then wind is a problem. In between around 60 degrees is the ideal balance if you want a tent that is capable in both, which is what the X-Mid is. So the X-Mid has as good of a wind profile as possible for a tent that has both a good amount of headroom and isn't problematic in the snow. The wind profile would be even better if the tent was tiny (like a MSR Carbon Reflex 1) or if it has minimal headroom (like a single pole mid), but for a nicely sized tent that also works in the snow it's as good as possible. To distribute this force, the X-Mid has a two pole structure which takes a lot of the strain, plus it has peak guylines at both peaks which beef it up in high wind. Plus if you really want you can add two more peak lines (connect them inside and run them out the vent) so you actually have 2 guylines from each peak (one to each side). Like this it is extremely robust. Compared to something like a single pole mid, the X-Mid does have more wind drag since it has more headroom, but it also spreads that higher load more effectively due to the peak guylines and dual poles. So overall it's not a tent for extreme wind cyclones, but it's a strong performer for any reasonable conditions. When you say you've thought guylines are crucial, I'm not sure if you are not familiar that the X-Mid does have peak guylines, or if you are referring to other guylines that connect along the seams or in the middle of the panels. In general I'm not a fan of these because any guyline that doesn't connect to the structure of the tent doesn't help nearly as much, and it's prone to being mis-used because people will pull out on the tent in ways that the shape isn't designed for, so it just makes the pitch wonky. The price was $200. We're working hard on getting more available but it's not entirely clear right now how soon that will be.
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Mar 30, 2019
chalfredm
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Apr 5, 2019
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dandurstonThank you for the informative answer.
Apr 5, 2019
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