There Are Pandas, and Then There Are Pandas.
And this isn't either of them! The Pandas we're talking about here, are watches, not bears. And what got me thinking about them (again) was a link posted this morning by @cm.rook who pointed a few of us to the very attractive (and not terribly priced) Yema "Rallygraph" Panda which, in it's most traditional arrangement, looks like the one on the left, but can also be had in the version on the right: The model on the left is a true Panda, while the model on the right is called a reverse Panda. The reason for that distinction is clear--Panda bears, only come in the first arrangement. Now at this point, everyone should be thinking about the most well-know Panda, The Rolex Panda, which is actually a Daytona, and among Rolex Daytonas, the most famous of which is the Paul Newman Daytona, which was famous first, because it was Paul's, and second because it sold at auction for $17.8 million (US Dollars). The story of that auction is well-known so I'll only...
Nov 8, 2019
All the Revelation quilts shipped in mid-December and we’re excited to learn about how you’ll be using your quilt in upcoming adventures! Please be sure to share your pictures and stories in this Discussion.
Thank you to everyone who already posted after you received your quilts. Three questions have surfaced since members started receiving their quilts and we would like to address them here.
1) The quilts weigh less than what is listed in the Specs. Great news! We were conservative with stating the weight of the quilt, and it turns out that the fabric and baffles are a little lighter than we estimated, so the quilt is even lighter than anticipated. The weight savings was not from skimping on down fill, as some have suggested. The quilts have the full amount of down that was specified in the product page, which is the same density, according to the same formula, that EE uses on all of their Revelations.
2) There is a horizontal seam near the leg area of some quilts, but not all. True - this is normal and should be expected for all Regular/Wide and Long/Wide quilts. The widest quilt from one width of fabric is about 54", so to make a quilt that is wider requires sewing two fabric pieces together. This is true of all Revelations, regardless of origin, and also true on all wide quilts from other manufacturers.
3) It appears that the down in the middle chambers isn’t lofting as high as it should, especially compared with the outer-most chamber. There are a few things at play here. Most importantly, the quilts need a full day to loft back up and may benefit from some shaking to help the feathers bounce back and re-distribute. Still, once that is done, the outer-most baffle will always look more fully stuffed because the outer edge is sewn down to the width of fabric rather than the 1.5" baffle that is on all the inner chambers. The rest of the chambers won’t look round and firm like those on an ultralight down jacket, at least not when laying flat on the ground. The baffle dimensions change when you wrap it around you in quilt mode, and that's what is correctly designed to keep you warm. The amount of down in each chamber has been measured to be the same as all other Revelation quilts. EE has checked a number of quilts and after given a day to loft, they meet all of their quality expectations. The real test is that the quilt insulates well, regardless of how you think it should look laying flat or hanging in front of a window.
Thank you everyone for posting in the discussion with your questions and photos. We hope this answers your questions, and please remember to give your quilt a day or two to loft fully. Feel free to continue posting in the discussion with your thoughts. And, if you feel like you have an actual manufacturing issue with your quilt, please reach out to Massdrop Customer Service (not EE). Thanks!
We are grateful for everyone who participated in the launch of this collaborative product - you made it all possible. Here’s to many more adventures together!
Sincerely, Danny Milks / Massdrop Tim Marshall / Enlightened Equipment
Now, Enlightened Equipment has had the chance to check out numerous quilts and found them to all meet their quality controls, and the down distribution is what would be expected on their own Revelation quilts. If you can compare a 20 degree EE Revelation against your Massdrop Revelation, and find a difference, please contact us. Otherwise, all evidence that EE has seen is that these are all correctly made.
Please keep in mind that people are posting pictures of the quilt flat like a blanket, and not in it's primary use case - cinched up around as a sleeping quilt. I understand it appears, flat and hanging in front of a window, that the down is not evenly distributed throughout the baffles. But that is not the method nor format used to determine the warmth rating in the intended use case. These are made correctly and just as warm as every other Revelation. Isn't that good news?
If anyone has a defective quilt, then please only contact Massdrop Customer Support (via your Transactions page) and we'll resolve it - replacement, refund, credit, etc. If the quilt needs to be fixed, then we would arrange to have it delivered to EE for repair.
Are the Australian Alps the Blue Mountains, or is it a distinct range?
Also, as a heads up to everyone reading this, in the future please contact our customer service team as we're able to issue returns and refunds, and send out replacements from our inventory. If it needs to be fixed, then we'll still work with you to have your quilt sent to EE. Thanks!
Long/Wide
Length: Up to 6 ft 6 in (198 cm) tall Width: 58 in (147 cm) head tapered to 42 in (107 cm) foot Down fill: 16.4 oz (464 g) Weight: 25.8 oz (730 g)
The Regular/Wide quilts I received ranged from .55oz (14g) to 1.05oz (29g) underweight, based on Massdrop specs. I had my first quilt weighed on EE scales and the weight was identical, so my scale at home is accurate.
So, I would guess the "real" Long/Wide weight is around 24.8oz -- but that's totally just a guess :-)