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mkwhalin
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Mar 26, 2018
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As I had posted in January, my short/reg came in at 20.1 ounces. That's still 0.6 ounces below the "revised" specs that were supposed to take into account the lighter-than-expected materials. I contacted Massdrop support in January when it was still considered 1.1 ounces light and they were pretty clueless. I waited around to get Danny's response on this board, which I would summarize as: Every quilt we've checked has been perfect and there is no way for customers to tell by looking/measuring/weighing/etc that the quilt won't perform as advertised; the only measure is whether or not it keeps you warm.
I tested it head-to-head against my Sierra Designs Backcountry blanket 700 which has an EN lower limit of 27 F and comfort limit of 37 F. I used it in my garage on a very cold night with the Klymit insulated lite and a mid-weight baselayer top and bottom. The ground was below freezing (pushing the limits of the Klymit) but I would guess the air temperature was mid- or upper 30s. The EE blanket was adequate in these conditions and when I switched in the night to the Sierra Designs I would it was comparable and maybe a bit warmer than the EE blanket.
In the end I decided it wasn't worth the hassle of dealing with a return or repair. Massdrop support continued to disappoint when they emailed me again on March 9 to let me know there had been an update about the quilts and provided a link to Danny's mid-January post. I used it on the "O" circuit in Torres del Paine but I don't think the temp was ever below 40F. Fortunately I sleep warm but I am pretty convinced that the quilt I got was more of a 30 degree than a 20 degree.
Here are my take-home thoughts and advice based on my experience: -To future Massdrop customers interested in this quilt: Temper your expectations. I was expecting a premium outdoor product for a 20% discount. A subgroup of people may have gotten this but I think many people were happy because they weren't expecting as much from the quilt as I was. If you think you tend to have high expectations just spend the extra money to get it direct from EE. -To Massdrop: If you do this drop again please set up some quality tolerances. Now there shouldn't be any questions about the weight of the stitching, etc. I don't know what is appropriate but I would say having a short/reg quilt come in 0.6 ounces below is outside an acceptable tolerance. -To Enlightened Equipment: I would think twice before doing this again, especially if you and Massdrop can't come up with a better QC process. It's hard to put a price on your brand's reputation. A decent number of people were unhappy enough with what they got to post some pretty critical stuff on here and I'm sure what they told their friends was as bad or worse.
Mar 26, 2018
Scottfreedom
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May 2, 2018
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mkwhalinPretty much my feelings. Contacted Enlightened to put more down in even with me paying to have it done and they refused saying it was manufactured in China and different than the way they build them here in the US and couldn't or wouldn't help me. As far as I'm concerned they should not have put their name on it if they weren't going to service it at all.
May 2, 2018
Flashman
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May 15, 2018
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mkwhalinThanks for the write up and honest evaluation. Also doing a real world temp testing of the quilt, big help to people trying to decide if this is the right quilt for them.
May 15, 2018
mbeeezy
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May 15, 2018
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mkwhalinI didn't order from this drop because I knew I wanted to order from EE, and the cost difference wasn't enough for me to not order from them. I have the 20F Enigma (same as revelation, but closed footbox because it is a winter bag for me) and I have comfortably used it into the upper 20s with an insulated pad and bag liner (even getting too hot and having to shed my puffy and socks/hat.) I suspect I could use this below 20 (especially if I wasn't solo and had another body in the tent for warmth, be it a human or a dog), but I am also a warm sleeper compared to other women and some men. That being said, I do think that if you're a warm sleeper and not able to sleep comfortably in this with reasonable layers, it COULD be a QC issue. But MD was really upfront about this being made in China, and while I think plenty of things made in China are just fine, this was NOT one I was willing to risk. It's really hard to take your hand sewn bag and have the same quality at a factory overseas. It just isn't going to be the same. I am really disappointed that EE seems unwilling to address the issues for people who bought on MD. I don't think it will put their reputation at risk necessarily (they have some devoted fans, myself included), but it does put a stain on their reputation that is a bit hard to remove.
May 15, 2018
Kjf27
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Jun 6, 2018
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mkwhalinSounds like EE/MD took their 20% off a little too far: 20% off the price for you - 20% off the down cost for them ;-) Seriously though: raw deal. I wouldn't put my name on this product if I were EE.
Jun 6, 2018
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