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Massdrop x Ferrum Forge Crux S35VN Folding Knife

K.T.N

1264

Jun 16, 2017

Gosh. I feel sorry for those folks who get serial number 551 or higher. As long as I can nail 550 or lower, this will have been worth the purchase. Just joking, there.
I like the clean look of these Ferrum Forge knives. Good proportions, design, and attention to details. I'm in for one.
Is S35VN the new S30V?
I remember a few years ago when I got my Spyderco Native 5 FRN in S35VN. At that time, there was some grumbling in the knife forums about how S35VN wasn't being hardened optimally, and was too soft and couldn't keep an edge, or something like that. As if it were a botched steel that was condemned to failure.
Well, I thought that knife was great, and I actually like the feel and performance of S35VN better than S30V. Cuts feel smoother, whereas S30V has more of a bite and feels more aggressive. Probably something to do with the carbide structure?
Now S35VN seems to be everywhere. It looks like steel makers figured out how to do it right with S35VN. I don't hear those complaints much anymore.
I do agree, it is a great steel!

PigmonkeY

1082

Jun 18, 2017

K.T.NIt took a while for manufs other than CRK to get the heat treat right. I'd say S35VN properly heat treated is better than the best S30V. It solves a lot of the issues S30V had, that's for sure.

microgeekbrandon

Jun 19, 2017

K.T.NCRK helped develop S35VN because Chris Reeves was running S30V softer than other manufacturers and caught some flack for his heat treat. I prefer it to S30V as it is much easier to sharpen. S30V isn't bad but S35VN is extremely easy to maintain. I dont buy chinese knives but had to make an exception for this one.

Jackfantom

Jun 19, 2017

microgeekbrandonS35vn will chip easier than s30v, at least in my experience. I have quite a few working knives, and while opening my last hotel I found myself handing out knives every morning (boxes, plastic wrap, tape, zip ties, etc. ). Here are my findings in what holds up to rough use by people who have no idea what they are doing - 154cm mini grip is pretty much the bottom rung in performance of the knives I loaned, s35vn held its edge well but tended to chip (Kizer), s110v held up a bit better but still developed chips (spyderco para2), s30v didn't chip and was sharp but not real suharp and it had a roll (kershaw blur), sleipner Was sharp and no blade damage, but not the sharpest (lionsteel sr2), D2 was about the same as sleipner ( we 703), the 2 that did the best were elmax (ZT 0566) and m390 ( four Ritter griptilian). These 2 made it through multiple users, 10 plus days of hard use and would still cut newsprint/phone book paper (admittedly neither glided thru but there were no chips or rolls and they came back to full on sharpness with stropping. All knives were sharpened on the wicked edge, all were set at bevels from 13-16 on a side. I know some may be asking why I would loan novices knives that range from $80 -$300 (my titanium handled para2 is worth over $300 as is my custom set handled Doug Ritter grip), well none of my knives are safe queens, and I use all of them. This was an opportunity in my mind to put all these knives to a true real world stress test.

K.T.N

1264

Jun 19, 2017

JackfantomNice. That's really putting your knives to good use.
I have the both the Elmax ZT 0566 and the Ritter M390 Griptilian as well.
M390 really is one of my favorite steels, but I have not put it to the trials that you have. So it's good to hear it holds up well. I also have the Benchmade Grip and mini-Grip in 20CV (which I understand it the same as M390), and boy, those are among my favorite knives.
Elmax is one of my favorite steels ever since I got into knives. Funny, because of all the sexy new steels that have become the rage since Elmax was hip (M390, 3V, etc), a lot of folks consider Elmax to be yesterday's news. So it's really nice to hear that it came out one of the top performers in your real world trial.
To me, S30V is a great steel, but I don't like the fact that it doesn't keep a razor edge for long. I've read over and over again that S30V loses its razor edge quite quickly, but maintains a good working edge for a very long time. I also find that to be the case. I like my knives to be pretty sharp, so as good a workhorse as S30V is, there are other steels that I prefer.
I have a Spyderco FRN Manix in s110v. Yes, it does feel delicate and brittle. But it does keep an edge for a long, long time. I use it as my work knife, but am careful not to abuse it. It's nice to have a blade that doesn't require frequent sharpening. Especially when the days are full and there's little time to tend to it.
I am looking forward to the Crux in S35VN. I think it is a fine choice for EDC tasks.

salehonasi

Jun 19, 2017

JackfantomAs far as chipping, S35VN usually does at least as well as, oftentimes better than S30V - in your case, it's worth noting the blade you were using was a Blur. Kershaw actually runs their S30V slightly softer than other manufacturers (~58 HRC)to avoid chipping issues (since they have a broader audience than the enthusiast crowd, they tend to lean towards softer heat treats as they know their blades are likely to be abused.)

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