Click to view our Accessibility Statement or contact us with accessibility-related questions
Drop Refurbished
Like-new products you can trustDrop Rewards
Get $5 for every 500 points you earn! Learn more
Drop Keyboard Club
Become a member and expand your keycap collectionCollaborate With Us
For Brands & DesignersFollow Drop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGw7DalOeCM
I agree the stock is a bit thick. If the designers know what they're doing (which my impression is they do) then the geometry of the primary bevel should alleviate this. I would also prefer a full flat grind, but the belly of this blade has such a high grind I think it will suffice.
Otherwise your concerns, while legitimate, are either personal preference or actually about Massdrop (warranty, reviews, lack of answers, etc.) and not the knife. I certainly won't hold your decision to not join against you.
The usable blade figure was from FFKW; I suspect more like 2.3 or 2.4 inches but I suppose I shouldn't doubt the designers. Personally I have quite a few larger blades and am actually looking for something smaller, and will also be picking up a Dragonfly 2 in the near future, so I guess whatever one makes most sense in hand will win my pocket in the end :P
Seems like it'd be easiest to list each question and answer it in-line. These are the questions from this post: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-ferrum-forge-falcon/talk/1659907 which seems like the most structured post, but let me know if there are other questions
1. What is the actual thickness behind the edge? I'll defer to @FerrumForgeKnifeWorks for the measurement.
2. What does the knife look like in hand when held without using the choil? Rather than describe it, I'll take a picture tomorrow once I'm back in the office.
3. Any hot spots? Not that I've noticed. The clip (most common source of hotspots for me) is sufficiently small and positioned toward the bottom of the knife so between size, positioning, and the curved edges on all sides of the clip it's not a hot spot for me anyway.
4. Is the pivot free spinning or captivated on one side (i.e. can I disassemble the pivot from one side)? I'll defer to @FerrumForgeKnifeWorks
5. Is there a warranty since Massdrop is actually "producing" this? Yup, all knives WE produces carry a lifetime guarantee against materials and manufacturing defects. In the event you have a materials or manufacturing defect, you'd reach out to Massdrop, we'd work with WE to qualify the issue, and move to a replacement/repair depending on the issue. We'll add a note on the warranty to the product page for clarification.
These are the two sentences you wrote that made me answer right now instead of waiting for tomorrow morning: "This is an enthusiast community where these type of questions should be expected. Just because I don't personally like a design doesn't make this a bad knife. " You're right that these questions should be expected, they are, just takes a while to sift through the discussion so we appreciate your patience.
Let me know if there's anything I missed, thanks for your questions!
As FlyinF suggested, at this point you're better off staying out of the drop. Once these knives hit the street, there'll be lots of reviews, in-use pictures and opinions. You're better off waiting to read up on all of those various viewpoints and make an informed purchase with the feedback you need.
Personally, I don't place much stock in knife reviews. What works for you may not work for me and some internet talking points dude and vice versa. Know your hand, trust your instincts and buy what you like. If you buy what you like you'll find you like what you buy. I'm not sure you like this knife enough to take the plunge.
Here are a couple pics showing how it fits in my hand without using the finger choil. I'm 6'2, 215lbs for reference. Hand proportions are a little odd, my fingers are on the short side relative to the size of my palms. Can never find gloves that fit.
When you hold it without using the finger choil, your pinkie fits against the flat side of the bottom of the handle.
The blade is short, but I didn't have any tasks it wasn't up to. What would you use it for that would require a longer blade? Maybe food... like an apple would be a disaster... but the thickness would lend to that issue as well. The choil isn't a selling point for me but it also isn't reason to avoid IMO. I love my CRKT Wrinkle but there is another 3/4" of length over the Falcon when closed so not the best comparison.
I'm finishing my review and will have it up shortly if you want my full take on it.
There is a lifetime warranty on materials and workmanship which is listed in the specs section of the drop. You might have missed it?
Regarding your comment about making a knife that is a user... I agree it's to be a workhorse... the blade is thick enough that it could handle a beating.... it doesn't *NEED* to be that thick... but the mass isn't unpleasant. I see the virtue in a much lighter knife... but I have no significant complaints with this blade. If it's to be a workhorse, I'd probably change it to a convex edge.
The biggest trouble of creating a folder on an enthusiast site is that so many enthusiasts have a different view of what the "ideal" folder is. This is a bit of a Frankenstein-ish beast... but that's not saying it's not worth $125.
You made some statements I want to clarify on: "People are throwing away $130 like it's nothing. " To me, $130 is something I spend on a "toy", gadget, or other thing that looks fun. No, it's not "nothing", but it's not something I have to save up for. In my opinion, if someone needs to save up for a $130 knife, there are some other priorities they should be focusing on.
"A lot of design errors went into this knife..." What "errors" are you referring to? I can see how someone would have made different "decisions" but that would be just designing another knife. Technically speaking, I didn't have any complaints when I made these claims, and I still don't after having used it for months as a daily carry.
"...it's pretty plain looking to begin with." That's what I wanted. I love the look of titanium. It's a softer metal so it will scuff and get some "character" the longer I own [use] it.
"Just a generic basic knife worth about $70." Where did $70 come from? Cost of materials? Can we agree that not every knife manufacturer's labor is equal in quality or cost?
I sincerely hope you reply and look forward to the discussion.