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WoodyBalto
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Oct 30, 2018
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I got in on the 1st drop and have this in Copper. The fact that the blade does not lock in the open position is a major fail for me. When you combine that with the fact that the slide button is on the side, makes for an awkward experience when you try to use this.
WoodyBalto
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Oct 30, 2018
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JeepFreakI made that assumption too. If you read comments in the original drop you will see that nearly everyone was surprised by this.
KennyS
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Oct 31, 2018
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WoodyBaltoDoesn’t lock!? Assume it just stays in place with friction?
WoodyBalto
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Oct 31, 2018
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KennySI wish it did. In reality the blade is under spring tension to keep it closed so you must hold the small button that is fighting you to return to the retracted position while you try to cut things.
ponagathos
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Nov 1, 2018
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WoodyBaltoThat reminds me of the little plastic ones we used to use at work for opening boxes. They were good for that use because the auto retraction meant there was never an open blade lying around for someone to accidentally cut themselves. That said, we were probably paying fifty cents for them in bulk and they were essentially disposable, although you could technically open them up to replace the blade.
The RUK looks nice but not sure how useful it would be on a keychain compared to other, much less expensive options.
T.willy
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Nov 1, 2018
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WoodyBaltoThat was what I thought when I first saw this design. Like someone said it seems more like a novelty then anything else. 😕
highbob
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Nov 7, 2018
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SpeyGot one sitting on my bench right here beside me--$5.60 from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-10-049-Pocket-Knife-Rotating/dp/B00002X201/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1541558188&sr=1-1&keywords=stanley+10-049
This looks like a fun little knife, but fifty bucks for a utility knife isn't doing it for me--not if it won't lock open. Looks fun, though.
Spey
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Nov 7, 2018
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highbobGreat reply ;-)
Just last night I picked up a Milwakee Fastback to give some of the 'new technology' a go 'round for $15. Also picked up a new 10-449 (as I lost the blades-swap button on one of my backup 10-499) for $5.
I typically carry a 10-049 for when I need a little extra depth of cut (rigid insulation, etc.). It'salso a nice fit in change pocket of 501's.
The current 10-449 (HomeDepo version at least) is now silver (looks non-painted) vs. the dark gray they have been for past few decades. Looks really 'cheap' (aka cheesey), but after running the blade out a few times smoothed out and appears to be like old-times.
I 'assumed' the Fastback was going to be spring loaded (push the button and it opens, but no. I had to use the nail-nick with 2nd hand the first few openings, then realized I needed to push the button and give it a agressive wrist flick. I can just imagine standing 3/4 up on a 3-section extension ladder and one-hand wrist-flicking ... and that little fucker is gonna get the ladder oscillating on me. The after a few days use sawdust or ... Clogging up the action and no more Coolio wrist ficking that f'r until a disassembly cleaning.
Well, can you guess which one wound up going into my tool pouch this morning ...?
If ya can't guess, I put my name on my tools (picture). That Fastback will be returned, or perhaps traded for a hundo pack of blades ;-)
DogFort
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Nov 7, 2018
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SpeyI was eying a Browning Speed Load Knife as a more medium grade folding razor blade holder.
Source: https://www.browning.com/content/browning/en/products/knives/speed-load-knives/speed-load-hunting.html
Spey
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Nov 7, 2018
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DogFortInteresting consideration with all those options in replaceable blades. My thoughts ..., it all really depends on the specifics related to intended application (what you intend to do with the tool, and your level of expectation).
If I am not mistaken those blades are ALL
420J2 stainless steel at 52 Rockwell Hardness. So for me that would mean I would expect to be replacing blades FREQUENTLY.
A few years ago I skinned a beaver with similar replacement blade knife. It was REDICULOUS how quickly that blade steel lost its edge (needed numerous blades for that job, even with stropping).
To me, this type of steel is VERY disposable requiring user to keep/carry replacements (what makes the 10-499 so nice, replacement blades stored in handle to allow replacement or trade in edge geometry).
The main reason for using a razor knife is that the spine thickness is very thin providing little resistance once the modulus of rupture is broken on what you are cutting. There are alternate blade steel compositions for razor knives these days though (provide longer in-field usage before dulling to the point of needing sharpening if replacement), but I do not know if those alternte blade steels are compatible with the model you mentioned, but believe if so that they will be limited in blade shape to the more standard razor-knife style).
The 10-049 and 10-499 are the only 'razor' knives I have found any usage applications for (jobsite usage applications where disposable blades are billed to the job). Otherwise (pocket knives) I prefer tradition type blades that I sharpen that hold an edge for more than a day before needing maintenance.
Ghostinrags
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Nov 7, 2018
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SpeyI don't know, bub; I've rocked a Fastback for years through mud, drywall, sawdust, steel industry, you name it. No "aggressive" wrist flick, just a little twist while pushing the button. I can pull, open, cut, and close to pocket faster than the guys with spring assisted blades can, and the shape of the Milwaukee offers me better control than a normal utility knife. But, no spare blades on board which kind of stinks. If I had to rely on a knife for my business, I think I'd go your way too, but I tell ya, the Fastback is your EDC buddy. Plus, the "click snap" of an easy deployment gets people's attention. Take care, keep working!
Spey
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Nov 8, 2018
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GhostinragsThank you for your comments. Having run the Fastback for the time you stated, I am assuming you have gone through a number of them. Question for you.
RE: my comments about opening requiring an agressive wrist flick and your comments related to "No "aggressive" wrist flick, just a little twist while pushing the button."
Is it typical that NIB Fastbacks require some period if break-in to reduce the opening friction the one I bought has?
Yes, I agree with your comment "the shape of the Milwaukee offers me better control than a normal utility knife.", plus the secondary open position providing an agressive angle to spine is very nice in-use option.
RE: " But, no spare blades on board which kind of stinks."
Perhaps we are not talking same Fastback. If you look at the photo I posted, you will see a spare-blades-storage hinge-door similar to the other two razor knives in same photo.
RE: "If I had to rely on a knife for my business, I think I'd go your way too, but I tell ya, the Fastback is your EDC buddy."
Interesting ..., so you agree a 10-499 makes a better work-blade, but you are saying you EDC (public carry ?) a Fastback ...? That would be illegal in my state (per RCW 9.41.250 - Dangerous Weapons Penatly) - No Bueno!!
grahamthegray
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Nov 9, 2018
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Speydifferent fastback. Milwaukee offers 3 versions, if i remember
Ghostinrags
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Nov 9, 2018
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SpeyThat's terrible you can't carry a darn box cutter because of laws. Glad you didn't take any offense, I didn't mean any by my words, I sometimes come off as edgy but don't try. You're right, the little buggers are tight at first - I forget since it's a part of my arm most days. I tried the extra blade model myself once, but couldn't deal with the shape change. I'm way too picky and get into a habit with what I use. You are correct in your choice for work, though, indeed. There's a reason that every professional carries a Stanley like yours - because they work. Now if only your laws would stop being goofy... Take care, amigo. Happy upcoming holidays to you and yours!
DogFort
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Nov 9, 2018
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SpeyWhile I'm sure the bundled blades are going to be crap, it is advertised as taking any standard utility blade. If that's the case I think it bridges the gap pretty well between box-cutter and folding pocket knife. I'd likely put the factory blades away unless I need a skinning knife in a pinch.
Spey
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Nov 9, 2018
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GhostinragsAbsolutely "no offense taken" or presumed in any way! I do understand your though, as many of my comments are misconstrued as you refereced. ;-)
To be clear (about legal carry issue mentioned and your comment related to not being able to carry a box-cutter);
The issue with the Fastback is not that it's a razor knife, it is because the blade can be deployed with a centrifical motion (wrist-flick, gravity, etc.) after being released by the button (RWC 9.41.250). Specifically the release from closed position must only be able to be done through physical contact with the blade. This law changed to current a few years ago basically to allow "assisted" (aka spring loaded) knives, but yet still make illigal gravity knives, switch-over, etc. So now assisted knives that are deployed by physical pressure to the blade are legal to own, carry, use, and manufacture. My feeling is the State was lobbied to allow manufacturing in State (approved a taxation revenue source), to counter all the assisted knives imported from Oregon manufactures o er the past decades.
Yes! we have some pretty dumb laws here in WA State, but at least there has been a trend of law revision (improvent in recent years :-) We are moving slowing forward at the current rate of room temperature molasses (our State politicians are Mole-Asses i.m.h.o.).
OMG we (WA State) just (mid-terms) passed the most stupid firearms law where if someone steals a gun from your house the owner is potentially guilty of a Class C Felony for improper storage (including potential $10,000 fine), also potentially libal for the gun after it is stolen (Initiative I-1639). They even include a newly made up term "semi-automatuc-assult-rifle" which effectively makes my Marlin 60 tube feeding .22LR an assalt rifle from a legal perspective. Seriously crazy stuff going on!!
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