There Are Pandas, and Then There Are Pandas.
And this isn't either of them! The Pandas we're talking about here, are watches, not bears. And what got me thinking about them (again) was a link posted this morning by @cm.rook who pointed a few of us to the very attractive (and not terribly priced) Yema "Rallygraph" Panda which, in it's most traditional arrangement, looks like the one on the left, but can also be had in the version on the right: The model on the left is a true Panda, while the model on the right is called a reverse Panda. The reason for that distinction is clear--Panda bears, only come in the first arrangement. Now at this point, everyone should be thinking about the most well-know Panda, The Rolex Panda, which is actually a Daytona, and among Rolex Daytonas, the most famous of which is the Paul Newman Daytona, which was famous first, because it was Paul's, and second because it sold at auction for $17.8 million (US Dollars). The story of that auction is well-known so I'll only...
Nov 8, 2019
Brad, who I have gotten products from for years now, has always been fast, reliable, made excellent products, and gone the extra mile like doing custom anodized color when I asked (and gone above and beyond, like refinishing and anodizing titanium stuff from other makers for me when he had the time). Given the previous TacticalKeychains offerings on Massdrop, releasing something so close to a TUKK strikes me in poor taste. Profitable perhaps, but not a good look. I think I will stick to supporting the guy I know, the one who is feeding his family by making cool things he dreams up in his garage in Iowa.
Plus he has videos showing the whole process which are fascinating to watch.
The narrative that either product is superior or inferior does not help anyone. Everyone is to judge for themselves and make their own assessment.
I've never heard of, andI don't know how much the "TUKK" one is, but I'd rather give someone in the U.S. that makes it $50 or $60.
I'm sorry, this is cool, but not for a $40 Chinese made item. The U.S. has GOT TO STOP manufacturing almost EVERYTHING in China. Cheers All, and Happy Mothers Day to those Ladies!
One of the posters mentioned that both Chinese and U.S. markets serve different needs, which I can appreciate. However, if it's $10 that makes you are breaks you, you shouldn't be buying something like this to begin with. You need to be spending that money on the $2 menu at McDonald's to feed your family. Just my honest humble opinion.
Cheers!
It doesn't have the same ergonomic panache as the RUK, for another. Personally I think that a tiny cutting tool should probably not just be a smooth-sided rectangular box, and I like the way the RUK is shaped.
It doesn't allow as much blade to be exposed and used as the RUK, for thirds. Since these are disposable knives using tiny, standardized blades, losing half of the useful edge of each blade is a significant downside for the TUKK.
The TUKK is 25% more expensive for the same materials, and appears that interesting materials like titanium aren't readily available, so there's not much advantage from the multiple material offerings.
Also, the TUKK maker is acting like an enormously entitled child, claiming that his disposable blade utility knife is the first of its kind and that this is some knockoff of his product, when it is clearly a completely different (and better) design that only shares rough dimensional commonality and blade compatibility with the TUKK.
Personally I wouldn't support someone who throws a massive public temper tantrum because an outlet and design partnership that didn't include him is selling a competing product.
Elliot Williamson had a little bit of a PR incident a couple of months back, but I think he recovered very well from it and I also think that if his kerfuffle had been an instance of him raging against Massdrop and Bob Terzuola or TJ Schwarz for doing knife collaborations together, I would have to think hard about buying more of the FFKW collaborations. None of these designers have any right to expect a sole partnership in bringing cool new products to market with Massdrop, and all of them should be excited about the chance to deliver WE-quality production offerings of their designs to people who can't justify spending $600-$1000+ to try their designs.
The guy who makes the TUKK has done nothing but slam the hood of a car shut on his own dick. He should have reacted to this drop by designing a revamped TUKK and sending a proposal to Massdrop to bring that to market as well. Rather than identify where the opportunity lies and getting on the ball, he is choosing to be a little tiny baby and pitch a fit that they didn't work with him on their first utility knife collaboration.
It is only his own fault that there is no more opportunity for him to work with Massdrop, and he is dead wrong to complain that this completely different utility knife is just a knock off of his own less appealing product.
And by the way, there's no reason to keep chanting the 'made in China should cost $4' mantra, it's nonsense and so far removed from the reality of the world we live in that it is just boring to read and refute at this point. If you have never handled a gadget made by WE Knife Co, you really shouldn't be disparaging them. Their work is generally flawless and they are never the most expensive offering for a given materials-fit-finish combination. Their high-end knives are basically midtechs that would cost much more if they were made by other companies.
It is also pretty shitty of you to act like there is some inherent benefit to a US-made item that means anyone buying a Chinese-made item is doing so for a lack of buying power. This is obviously a different product that is clearly superior in a couple of very important ways, there is no need to accuse people who buy this over the temper tantrum TUKK of being cheap.
"It is also pretty shitty of you to act like there is some inherent benefit to a US-made item that means anyone buying a Chinese-made item is doing so for a lack of buying power."
First of all, there is absolute benefit in buying from our own country as opposed to foreign markets. Trade imbalances for example. This isn't an economics class so I'm not getting into that. It is a grossly ridiculous argument about box cutters.......for the most part.
Secondly, millions of Americans are ".....buying Chinese-made item is doing so for lack of buying power." This is exactly what is occurring. See Walmart. However, I was never disparaging or putting people down that buy Chinese. I never said that nor insinuated at all that I was disparaging American's for buying Chinese.
Remember, this is about a roughly $45 Chinese made box cutter (with shipping and 9/2018 arrival) as opposed to a $53 dollar U.S. made box cutter. (not counting all of the negative stuff that "Brad" has said.) Not my comments about him; others. I truthfully don't know what he has said/done. And of course, the improvements that you note to the Chinese made box cutter.
I am out of these debates, but have enjoyed the civility amongst the Massdrop community.
Cheers and enjoy your weekend, Omniseed