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Hatuletoh
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Jul 31, 2018
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***I never write anything sort but this one is particularly egregiously long. Dont read it if you dont want to, it's a post for myself as much as anyone; sometimes by detailing a conundrum out loud or in writing, one finds the answer was actually clear the whole time, the arguments just needed to be voiced to really perceive their relative merits. That, uh, did not really happen here. I'm just as stuck, so if you do read this before tomorrow, feel free to chime in with your two cents.***
The color/style options for this knife are just the matter-of-opinion, multiple variable, no-right-answer sorts of choices that short out my processors like I'm a self-aware punchcard computer arguing with Bill Shatner.
As a rule, I like knives with color and interesting texture, which would argue for the aqua pelagic, esp since its the same +$20 as the big eye, but weighs less and looks better. I think so anyhow, and judging by the comments I'm not alone.
Also, I usually prefer a satin to a stonewashed finish blade, so it seems like a no-brainer, but...
...taken as a whole, the grey models look really good, and I think I like the plain version best of all, esp considering it's cheaper. Except...
...if the backspacer has that same texturing on all three versions, which I think it does, wouldn't it really look better to get the grey big eye--then the handles and backspacer would all have similar texture, preserving the monochromatic, homogeneous style that is the whole point of the grey. So it seems that there are really only two top-tier options, however...
...knife pics often lie. I dont quite understand what the trouble is, but very frequently I find the pics posted of a knife by the entity selling it, whom youd think would be motivated to display the knife as favorably as possible, fail to capture something fundamental and/or cool about a particular knife. Sometimes it's just colors: for example, I recently picked up an exclusive kwaiken with micarta scales and brass bolsters. It looked kind of off-kilter and homely in the pics, but the actual knife is BEAUTIFUL. Literally a work of art, and the colors compliment each other perfectly. So maybe with the Thresher here, the brass colored version is actually the most attractive. I'd bet it looks the most high-end, custom-like of the three color options, even if the pics dont show it. Plus, I like getting the knife no one else has (or far fewer have; I'm sure some ppl like the brass color right off). But if we're going for "sophisticated", the question of which model presents the same problem as with the grey versions. So if a case can be made for all three colors...
...maybe my first instinct is right? But that seems to be the instinct of everyone else, which is both a point for and against it...and this is my mental hell. Around and around for days on this question, like its life or death, but the very fact it's not is partly the problem. The more difficult and impactful q decision the easier I find it is to make. Its the easy ones I cant do, like picking out a tie or an entree off a menu. Girls who are into astrology always guess my sign the first time we are in restaurant together because when they ask me, "so what do you think you're going to order?" they get a dissertation like the proceeding. Which isnt the worst thing in the world, because the window into my psyche will either horrify them or fascinate them. And either way, I no longer need worry that I'm being sufficiently charming, and I focus on the truly difficult issues, like dessert.
Jul 31, 2018
GavkoKnives
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Mike Gavac
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Hatuletohdeep thinking :) my very shallow answer would be just to get one of each you like :) your thinking is very much like mine. i absolutely love the uniform look of grey sharkskin except im a big fan of the palegic milling, but i do have to say the bronze ano and satin blades they do is spectacular for a production knife...
Jul 31, 2018
GavkoKnives
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Mike Gavac
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Hatuletohbtw, i did end up ordering pelagic sharkskin myself :)
Jul 31, 2018
Hatuletoh
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Jul 31, 2018
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GavkoKnivesI dont know why it posted the way it did, but this reply appeared before the longer one above it, and I'm glad it did because after a little sleep I woke up and thought, "quit thinking about it so much and just pick the style you like best and the color you like best," so I did. And ended up with the grey pelagic Then I read this reply and felt good about my choice; it wasnt until later I read your other comments saying how good the satin blade, and anodized colors looked, etc. Glad I encountered those thoughts in the sequence I did. I would have liked to have just bought two or three and avoided choosing, but I'm committed to a few high-value knife purchases in the next cpl weeks, that will total...well, a lot more than I should be spending. But I told the knife shop owners, yes, please hold that piece for me, and there is no way I'm not coming through for the owners willing to do that for me. My kid is pretty used to eating ramon noodles in the dark by now, it will be fine.
So thanks for the assistance, and ultimate validation. A cpl things I was wondering: you have actually seen the finished prototypes from We, correct? It sounded like you had, but I wasnt completely certain. Secondly--this is a bit of a vulgar question, so forgive me--you dont have to pay for the production Thresher(s) you ordered from We/Massdrop, do you? The idea seems ludicrous to me, but I dont know how such arrangements normally work. If you were charged I'm taking up a collection from my fellow knife fiends here on MD and we'll be it/them. Leaving aside the fact you designed the damn thing, you deserve at least a $189.99 knife for being on this discussion board, answering questions (even the annoying ones), and regularly interacting. Very cool, thank you. So again, I hope a complimentary knife or three is part of your compensation, but if not, do please let me know and I'll make it a part of it.
Jul 31, 2018
GavkoKnives
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Mike Gavac
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Hatuletohthe roman noodle remark had me cracking big time :D :D :D awesome. I got 3 prototypes myself for few weeks now and love them. I did actually put one regular order in like everybody else just to get a random piece when they will stat shipping like everybody else will get.
Jul 31, 2018
DougFLA123
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Aug 1, 2018
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GavkoKnivesI would have liked the gray pelagic with the satin blade. I don’t know why that wasn’t an option. You just take a satin blade from over here, and attach it to a gray palegic handle over there! 🤓 I don’t know why all possible combinations weren’t available? 😧 Make no sense to me. 🤨
Aug 1, 2018
DougFLA123
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HatuletohWow, that was long! I am both horrified and fascinated! 😳😬
Aug 1, 2018
GavkoKnives
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Mike Gavac
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DougFLA123It creates too many SKUs, every combination is an individual item when they are ordered from WE and i think massdrop didnt want too many of them. Already this has far more available combinations than any other drop there is or was i think...
Aug 1, 2018
DougFLA123
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GavkoKnivesThanks for the explanation, Mike. It wasn’t an easy decision, but I did end up going with the Aqua Pelagic! 🙂
Aug 1, 2018
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Mike Gavac
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DougFLA123thank You very much!
Aug 1, 2018
Hatuletoh
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Aug 4, 2018
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GavkoKnivesI aim to entertain, despite spotty Internet connection, which leaves me replying to comments much too tardily.
But I wanted to say thank you again for ordering a Thresher like the rest of us to check out the "through-process", as we used to say in a previous life as a corporate drone [shudder].
W/o pointing any fingers or making unfair comparisons, it was very discouraging to receive a past Massdrop collaboration piece that had a feature...hmmm, how to put it?...the feature's design was solid, but the execution had clearly been done w/ the goal of keeping costs down at the expense of function. And indeed, the feature in question turned out to be a problem for many who ordered the knife. What was disheartening was that it was SO obvious--everybody saw the problem, even I saw it, and I dont know nothin' about nothin' so far as design, materials science, metallurgy, etc., goes. So surely the very talented designer would have seen the problem too...unless no attention was being paid to the project at that point by the designer. Either that, or it was a conscious decision to allow the manufacturer to cheap out, and either way, felt like the designer had no investment (and therefore no connection) to the finished product that I ultimately received. So thank you again for keeping an eye on the [sigh] "through-process", and finished product.
Also: I'm sure you've seen the knife, at least pics, that Mr. Ochs designed for a new Massdrop collaboration, correct? To be made by Reate--they do great work. I myself would not compare apples to oranges; however, one could interpret Mr. Ochs' design as a sort of challenge, if one looked at it that way. I dont know if a challenge was his intent, but he DID look rather self-satisfied in the pic, as if to say, "my design is the best of any produced for Massdrop, and no one will ever surpass it".
That's a highly subjective opinion, of course, and like I said, comparing such disparate knives is as futile as comparing disparate frui. But...it might be an enjoyable exercise to demonstrate to Mr. Ochs that he is gravely mistaken by working with Massdrop on another piece, something even more functional, finely made, perfectly designed and all around cooler than Mr. Ochs "Orca" with its MokuTi clip and satin finished, RWL-34 steel blade. No doubt you're busy with a million projects--and a new baby, I believe I read? Congratulations! May he or she be healthy and happy, and prefer to sleep through the night from the day s/he is born! Andd it's no good getting overworked, but if you have a min in the next few months, you might consider working with MD again. W/ Ferrum Forge gone off launching their own line of production knives SOMEONE will have a chance to fill the void...and babies are expensive...
Aug 4, 2018
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