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Massdrop x Granite Gear Crown X60
labbits
20
Jul 7, 2018
what raincover would you recommend for this backpack?
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549
Jul 8, 2018
labbitsProbably would recommend a liner instead of a cover (trash compactor bag, cuben liner, etc) because that's better insurance...water will almost always seep into the seams around the pack suspension somewhere and get into the pack rather quickly if the rain more than light and brief. For covers, I think the Osprey and ULA models are the best lightweight ones although the Sea To Summit are decent and there are cuben models available as well. Size medium in those three brands works for this pack unless you have a lot of junk attached to the outside. Those are all light thin materials but there are heavier ones out there if you like. With a cover you'll still need to put critical gear in dry sacks (not a bad idea with a liner but usually less risk there).
Seanneves
94
Jul 17, 2018
StepbystepI think a combo of cover and pack liner is best after hundreds of walking days in the rain. The cover keeps the exterior more dry so it doesn't absorb water. When a pack gets wet it can gain a pound or more, negating any weight savings of skipping a cover. Also keep exterior pockets and tied on items drier. I use a pack cover that I had custom made that folds out flat and can be used as a small tarp for dual use. Weighs 3 oz.
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549
Jul 18, 2018
SeannevesCould go any way. The pack fabric on this particular pack (and the standard Crown2 models) hardly absorbs anything at all. It's the parts that a cover does not protect that gain the water weight (belt/strap padding primarily and on this pack the foam panel does not absorb water at all). I've had my Crown2 in a couple of long rains sans cover and the water gain felt negligible to me compared to several other packs. My old Ohm would gain quite a bit more especially the foam back panel. For most ultralight backpackers, the concept of redundancy is the first thing to go in order to reach lower weights, so a liner plus a cover doesn't make much sense, and with low weights a little temporary water weight gain is no big deal. Years ago with thicker cordura fabrics and all of the thick cushy belts and straps, yeah it was easy to notice the +/- 2lbs of added water weight and that took longer to dry for sure.
icmaten3
0
Jul 22, 2018
labbits...Get a light weight poncho, which serves as pack cover, ground sheet, shelter and rain gear.
Rehwyn
13
Jul 22, 2018
StepbystepPersonally, I think this is the right approach with this pack. The material is already pretty water resistant, and it comes DWR treated, so my main concern is keeping my gear dry inside rather than preventing water weight.
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