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TiresomeToe933
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Oct 31, 2018
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It is a bit too late to ask... Since the drop is ending soon. But 6XX or This?
Oct 31, 2018
Radamaster3000
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Oct 31, 2018
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TiresomeToe933i would say these.
Oct 31, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Oct 31, 2018
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Radamaster3000Ok, thanks!
Oct 31, 2018
djfluffkins
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Oct 31, 2018
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TiresomeToe933Is the question you're really asking, what's the best I can get for $600 to suit my use case? Obviously the gut instinct is to pay more, but you haven't really talked about how you're going to use them. The difference in being able to power 6XXs and these is pretty extreme... (in terms of getting the value you're putting in)
Oct 31, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Nov 1, 2018
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djfluffkinsI plan to get a DAC. The bellow will sounds stupid as you're probably gonna suggest Audeze after I say my use case, don't suggest them to me, I cannot afford them. I would like to use them for listening and enjoying music in general plus video and music production so I want the headphone out of the two to have the flattest  FR. I do plan to get decent DACs and AMPs so... The requirement to power them isn't the issue. Thanks!
Nov 1, 2018
Helpbot
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Nov 1, 2018
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TiresomeToe933for the record, you can get used lcd2, and 2c for about $500, also the lcd2c goes on sale for $600 occasionally.
Nov 1, 2018
aman1420
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Nov 1, 2018
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TiresomeToe933Get a pair of Shure SRH840s and call it a day. Throwing money at audio when you don't have a lot of experience with it will do you no favors.
Nov 1, 2018
Helpbot
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aman1420No experience with the Shure's but i definitely agree. Unfortunately I must say I heard the same thing about the 6xx and i ended up disliking that headphone. Have a hd600 on the way though.
Nov 1, 2018
aman1420
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Nov 1, 2018
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HelpbotI wouldn't be surprised if there was a small difference in them - massdrop executions don't seem to be 100% faithful to the source product (how can they for the price? Not a dig against them, just the nature of the beast). Let us know what you think!
Nov 1, 2018
Jodet
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Nov 1, 2018
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TiresomeToe933Well the 6XX ships immediately and this ships in half a year. The 6XX is a known commodity at one third the price. I was going to order these but six months? Forget it. Just ordered the 6XX's.
Nov 1, 2018
djfluffkins
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Nov 1, 2018
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JodetI think everyone who chimed in is pretty on point. Glad I wasn't the only one who saw a question that shouldn't be a yes/no question. (even though I didn't read the power specs of these before I opened my mouth)
Nov 1, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Nov 2, 2018
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aman1420Ok, will do! But will they last a long while? I know the boundaries and technologies of audio will constant evolve and the next product will always be better than the last one. I want to make sure that I don't have to replace them in 2-3 years... But if these do actually perform to my need, then gee thats 1 year of waiting, comparing, waiting some more and studying audio for nothing..... What a waste of time.
Nov 2, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Nov 2, 2018
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HelpbotOk, thanks! I will look out for them then. What I'll do is I'l compare aman1420 recommendation of the Shure SRH840s and compare the FR of them as well as (TL:DR Everything) Ear Cup Breathability, Raw FR (which I am learning to read), Bass, Mids and Treble Response, Deviation and Soundstage. Do I know what those mean, yes. As aman1420 noted, do I have any experience.... No! So rtings.com will be my helper right now. However, with considering advice from aman1420, do these need DACs or Amps? He has a good point, if he can tell that I have never touched an Op-Amp, DAC or Amp. Should I even be considering anything else bar the Shure SRH840s? Thanks Again! -Liaw
Nov 2, 2018
Helpbot
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Nov 2, 2018
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aman1420Wasn't sure if you were asking of my opinion on the hd600, but I'll try to make this quick. I discounted the hd600 after reading so many reviews about the hd600 being more analytical than the 650, I thought to myself "that doesn't sound enjoyable at all", I was wrong. I already demo'd the hd600 with a recording of an orchestra concert I had just performed in on via audio engineer (summit-fi+) gear against some other headphones in the studio. Just that impression has me thinking I will sell the hd700 i impulsively bought and wasted money on shipping pads back for after pad rolling. It was not only extremely realistic but it was very enjoyable to listen to. My opinion is if you have a dedicated amp/dac, try the entire 600 series, even the 58x which i have admittedly never tried.
Nov 2, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Nov 2, 2018
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HelpbotOk Ok, Thanks A lot! However, aman1420 has suggested that I buy the Shure SRH840s, don't know how he picked up how I have 0% experience with DACs, Amps, Op-Amps and such... However he is either an A. Magician or B. Knows his hardware so well he can tell apart that I have no experience.... No offence, I 100% agree with you, seeing that your praises for the HD600 are similar with other people... But if this guy/girl can figure out that I have 0% experience, he can probably recommend me a headphone off the top of his head. So, I'm probably going to stick with his advice... Still, I'll continue to look around, keep comparing the Shure SRH840s with the HD600 (and possibly the HiFi Man Edition XX)... But until then, I'll just keep saving up and waiting for the "perfect" Headphones, Liquid Carbon X (on its own) or the THX AAA 789 Linear Amplifier or the Alex Cavali's Hybrid Amp with the Airist Audio R-2R DAC. Off-Topic: I'n not sure if they are actually wired together or it is for show, but in one of the pictures of the Liquid Carbon X, they have the Hybrid Amp being stacked on top one another. Even in the description it says "the Liquid Carbon X is designed to stack with the CTH tube hybrid amp..." and in the Airist product page there is a a picture of the AAA 789, the Hybrid Amp with the Airist in between. It says in the description "is designed to pair well with the Cavalli Tube Hybrid, Liquid Carbon X, and THX AAA™ 789." I'm don't have any DAC, Amp experience, but is that a bit too overkill? Thanks for answering soo quick by the way! -Liaw
Nov 2, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Nov 2, 2018
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HelpbotI had a 500 word essay on why I agree with you but why I'm not buying them. Because my #worlds-shitties-fucking-wifi, didn't send it. So now, I'm too fucked todo it.... Thx for the info....... kill me
Nov 2, 2018
TiresomeToe933
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Nov 2, 2018
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HelpbotHelpbot, thanks for helping me with understanding the headphones. So, I'll probably write my "essay" out, tomorrow.... Because I still want the valued opinion of experienced people like you to help me understand Audio and I still want to ask some tedious questions.... Thanks Mate! -Liaw
Nov 2, 2018
Helpbot
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Nov 2, 2018
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TiresomeToe933Hahaha, no worries I know the feeling. Quite a few memoirs of mine that never saw the light of day on massdrop because of that. Also I appreciate your response, however I was simply replying to aman's request for what I thought about the hd600. I keep hearing great things about Shure headphones, so I'm not offended by your decision at all. If you get the Shure 840, let us know what you think of them. I have the sdac+cth which just arrived two weeks ago. Depending on the headphones /iem, I prefer the Modi multibit and Magni 3 some of the time. I only enjoy the modi multibit and CTH pairing with my hd700 because that combo is very smooth and warm and hd700 can still retrieve detail while being smooth. My other headphones kinda sound like they are swimming in sound with that combo. Imo the Modi multibit and magni 3 (both Schiit products) get my vote because all my headphones sound good with it even if some like the cth better. My advice would be don't get an amp/dac if you have a MacBook pro (they have quite decent dacs), or unless you need to drive headphones that don't play well with less than ideal gear, thats most cell phones, shitty laptops and pc's, old ipods. If you want an amp/dac you may want to look at the Fulla 2 which is the cheapest option on the market ($99) at the moment. If you want a more fulfilling system, i haven't heard it but the Modi 3 came out recently (as a succesor to the Modi 2 DAC), pair that with a Magni 3 ($199 together) and you'll probably be good to go with any headphone you ever buy.
Nov 2, 2018
aman1420
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Nov 5, 2018
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TiresomeToe933So I just returned to this thread after my initial comment - if you'd like, you can email me at amandeep1420 at gmail and I can give you a better recommendation - while the 840s are good headphones (and will certainly last you a good long time if treated properly), they are a neutral headphone with a flat frequency response that is true to the artist's original recording - if you email me, I can give a better recommendation if I know your musical preferences, use case, be stylistic choices. Only reason I say email me is because I'm honestly not on here much (this is evidence of that, lol).
Nov 5, 2018
aman1420
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Nov 5, 2018
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HelpbotI'm so glad to hear you like them - FWIW, I loved my 598s when I had them (TiresomeToe933: get yourself some HD598s!! I paid $180 for mine back in the day and thought that was a steal - you should be able to get the SE version for much less. They're amazing headphones that don't need an amp.) The 700s are honestly a serious black sheep for sennheiser, so I'm not surprised you enjoyed the change - very few enjoy the 700s sound sig and take to EQing it to their preferences instead (as they are still very capable sonically).
Nov 5, 2018
Helpbot
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Nov 5, 2018
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TiresomeToe933Quick heads up, think the Shure's are on sale rn on amazon $50 off.
Nov 5, 2018
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