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Massdrop x HIFIMAN HE4XX Planar Magnetic Headphones

Massdrop x HIFIMAN HE4XX Planar Magnetic Headphones

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Stickied
Hello friends, welcome to our latest Massdrop collaboration announcement! From our first conversation with Fang, we wanted to work on an accessible priced, open back, planar driver headphone, based on the HE-400 line (HE-4, HE-400, HE-400i, HE-400S, etc). Initially, the conversation wasn’t going anywhere, but following the success of the HE-350 and RE-00, we started to make progress. In the year since those launches, we’ve worked closely with the team at HIFIMAN to develop the 4XX, based on the related Massdrop community activity. Here are some of the parts I’m most excited about:
HIFIMAN Planar Drivers - This is the tech that put HIFIMAN on the map. When reviewing planar magnetic headphones, most people talk about the speed of the driver and the low frequency “slam”. Speed (as a subjective term) generally creates a greater sense of realism; after you reach the point of diminishing returns on resolution, speed is (imo) going to have a huge impact on your experience. Through our collaboration, this technology is available at an all time low cost of $169.99. Focus-A Earpads - Earpads have a massive impact on the sound, and an even bigger impact on the comfort of the headphone. Unfortunately, we often have to compromise here, choosing a less comfortable earpad because it results in better acoustic performance. Focus-A pads are universally regarded as incredibly comfortable. Soft velour is the only material that contacts your skin, and the foam inside is soft to match.
New Headband + Colorway - Where HiFiMAN’s original headband design had some structural challenges (heavy materials, small contact points), they had a stylistic elegance few would debate (unless you’re a Float fan, then you get to complain). In working on this collaboration, we were able to bring back the original headband structure, while solving the construction problems cited in Massdrop discussions. The colorway is new as well, featuring midnight blue earcups with black accents throughout. Thanks for your interest and feel free to respond here with questions. That said, if the answer to your question is clearly stated in the description, I will apply a 10 day shipping delay to your next Massdrop order (jk but please read, our team spends tons of time making the descriptions as useful as possible).
This has been a great project and we’re excited to finally make the announcement : )
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Ok thought it was directed at me. You sure do hate those 6 series Sennheiser cans. The HE 4XX are good.
Assimilator702
We're all friends here.
Stickied
Hey Everyone, Thank you all for making the HE-4XX a huge success! It’s been great to see comments and reviews of the headphones start to come in as people receive them. The remainder of 4XX orders are on the way to all purchasers. And the reviews have been great so far! A few select quotes from members in the discussion below: “Probably the best product I’ve bought on Massdrop. These headphones are absolute heaven. “ @Sense
“The highs are high the lows are low, the sound is sparkling and crisp. Well rounded notes like a fine wine. For the money, you can't get any better!” @fisherman58
“Wow.... Just got mine a moment ago, plugged it into my Note 8, and they literally blew me away.” @Zaren Knowing that all of the original drop headphones have been delivered or are on their way, we have another exciting update for anyone who missed out on the previous round. We’re pleased to announce the 4XX is dropping again starting today! These units are from a different production batch, but HiFiMAN was able to deliver them ahead of schedule. After shipping out our units to members in the original drop, our team was able to finish QC of the new batch and is ready for them to be added to our ‘Massdrop Made’ collection as an in-stock drop with 1,900 units available. Thank you all for being a part of this drop. We’re excited to be able to have even more members get their hands on a HE-4XX.
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What are you using for an amp?
VBar
S.M.S.L. Sanskrit 6 into a Schiit Vali 2
take it with a grain of salt though as I literally opened the box 30 min ago, and its just a first impression.
Stickied
This update is for members who joined the drop in March (3/2 - 3/3): Updated 5/21: The Massdrop x HIFIMAN HE4XX Planar Magnetic Headphones have arrived at the warehouse and the team is wrapping up quality control checks. The headphones are starting to ship and we expect all units to ship by tomorrow (May 22).
We apologize for the slight delay, and we’re looking forward to you receiving the Massdrop x HIFIMAN HE4XX Planar Magnetic Headphones!
Updated 5/10: Hi everyone, We have an update on the Massdrop x HIFIMAN HE4XX Planar Magnetic Headphones. There was a slight delay in production, and we now estimate that the headphones will ship at the end of the month (by May 31). The headphones are currently wrapping up production and they’re expected to arrive at our warehouse in about a week. Once they arrive they will go through the receiving and quality control check process. We’ll provide an update at this time with the latest information. We apologize for this delay and can you assure the team is doing the best they can to get the headphones prepared for shipment in a timely manner. If you don’t want to wait the additional time, you can cancel your order via the transactions page: https://www.massdrop.com/transactions
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Makes it even harder when zeos just released a review of these 2 days ago. Got me that much more hyped up for next week
AveryC
Well I've waited this long, things happen and QC is important, do it right! Thanks for the update, anticipation grows...
Hi... Just got my set today, and after a couple of hours of play the right ear has a buzzing at certain pitches. Will it go away or it's faulty?
Just received my pair. The gimbal on the right earcup is too tight, and the screws arent threaded properly so I can't loosen it.
This makes two pairs of defective headphones that I've received from Massdrop in the span of one week (other pair was AKG K7XX, also with a defect in the right ear up)
Needless to say I won't be ordering from Massdrop any longer.
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Gotcha, I was under the impression they would just send a replacement
Acoulte
Well yeah, it's a replacement, not a bonus pair. I ship the defective one back.
Can't wait to receive my hi fimans 😊
Hi two questions while i what for shiping. !:would a tube amp work on these or not as much since the impedance is low. 2: the jacks on thee cut them selves are they 2.5 or 3.5 as iv seen people say 2.5 but with new orders saying 3.5.
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thanks for the replys hopfaly it goes fine being in canada i dont want to deal with the retern fee and recharge of shippping if it goes bad, just curuous teee do u use a balance casble i was thinking of making one for these but being low impeedence not sure if its nessasry to use such an amp. as im thinking of either the jotunheim or the tube amp schiit sells.
vamdolly
Hi, I've heard that Massdrop treats customers well on returns so you probably shouldn't have a problem if it goes bad. I just ordered a balanced aftermarket cable from Amazon with the dual 3.5mms. I'll post how it goes with that. As far as amps, even though the impedance is fairly low, because it has that low sensitivity @93 dB you should probably be amping them to get the best sound. I have a Schitt Magni2U that does well, especially on hi-gain and also a Q1Mk2 and Cayin C5 that both do well with the 4XX on their hi-gain settings. I think they sound the best on the Schitt but my experience is very limited in the amp area.
I wasn't "sold" on these ... until I EQ'd to the "harman curve".
If you're using Peace/APO, load this up, leave preamp at -12.1dB and if your source is clipping lower your source volume and turn your amp up.
Click the download button and rename the extension from .txt to .peace https://pastebin.com/TkB60Aig
source I used: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/654wxtmhlq0dhqa/AAAKT-RIbEKpsl-JW7mOnu_9a?preview=Hifiman+HE4XX.pdf
this, hd6xx or hd58x jubilee?
Dpes anybody know what the original detachable cables from the he-400i were? I just need to know to know what kind of replace ment cables I need. I am talking about the screw in ones.
Ilikedifferentthings
The screw-in connectors are SMC connectors.
Welp great my headset has been sitting longer in the netherlands where i live, than that it took for my package to go from the usa to germany. I am very curious why this is taking so long while its already in the country of destination. I guess i will have some more patience. Ehhhh
If anyone is interested, I have mine for sale for $145, only used once and wasn’t a fan of it. Everything original That comes with it is there and everything is like new. message me here or my email Kennyrawr808@yahoo.com
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Nenky808
Where do you live?
Nenky808
$100 and you've got a deal.
Is there a place to get a good quality cable for these headphones without having to fork over $129 to Hifiman? My headphones have 3.5mm connectors on both ends.
rssarma
Periapt cables.
rssarma
Here's a link on Amazon for "Compatible with Hifiman HE4XX". Lists both single ended (SE) and balanced. It appears from my searching that the Beyerdynamic T1 Second Gen and T5p Second Gen also have the dual 3.5mms at the ear cups and these sellers are re-purposing these Beyer aftermarket cables towards the latest dual 3.5mm generation of the 4XX, 400i, and other newer HiFiMAN cans. Just read the descriptions carefully as, having the current shipping HE-4XX, you'll want to make sure you get the dual 3.5mm with what ever source end you need.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=Compatible+with+Hifiman+HE4XX
I just ordered this balanced cable for my new (received early Oct 18) HE-4XX with the dual 3.5mms. I have no idea of the quality but it seems like it'll be decent enough. I also have an aftermarket balanced cable for my HD58X, not this brand, but it has the uncovered wire and it sounds fine, can hear the improvement over SE. I like the uncovered wire as it has very little mass and kind of disappears when I'm wearing it. Hope this cable will behave similarly. And the price is right for me. I've also got the FiiO BL35 3.5mm Male to 2.5mm Female balanced adapter cable, so if this new cable works out I can just pop it on the end of the new cable and won't have to switch cables when I go to a 3.5mm SE source. That has been working well so far with my 58X balanced cable. Here's a link to the 4-XX balanced cable I just bought:
https://www.amazon.com/NewFantasia-Balanced-Compatible-Hifiman-Headphones/dp/B07F5XTBCP/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1538868711&sr=1-5&keywords=Compatible+with+Hifiman+HE4XX
Now I have the HE 4XX. It is good but I feel missing an appropriate amp. I don't think my FiiO Q1 MKII or FiiO A3 can produce enough power for it - specially for Bass. So, need to upgrade the AMP. My restriction is that I do not live in a fixed home and my power source varies from 100V-220V. So, I need either USB powered AMP or an amp with 100V-240V power support. It also have to be portable (not desktop size). Budget should be limited to USD250. Do anyone have any recommendation?
How is FiiO A5 and iFI iCan Nano?
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I am looking for a balanced cable for my HE4XX but can't seem to find a cable that terminates to 3.5mm at the cans. Wonder why HiFiMan changed the design from 2.5 to 3.5mm,
mannukiddo
Thats a tough one without rigging something up or getting them custom made. Really I only spent a few minutes on google though.
These are incredible with the centrance dacportable fyi... build quality on mine was somewhat suspect... (left ear adjustment is a bit loose compared to right and left outter grill is loose [not big enough compared to right]). Cable is also a bit short...
Looking for a 2.5mm balanced cable for these. Unfortunately mine are new ones that take 3.5mm cables into the speaker cups and I have not been able to find any balanced 2.5mm cable that ends at 3.5mm at the cups. All I find are the ones terminating at 2.5mm at the cups. Thanks in advance.
Finally figured out why the price is so low.
It's adjusted for the time and replacement parts you will need to invest immediately so that they don't turn into a pile of screws and plastic in 2 months.
Such a shame.
Received mine the other day and im kinda blown away! Sounds amazing through my Woo WA6 and Little Dot 1+. Very full sounding with great clarity.
Arrived today. For those concerned about build quality, they certainly feel to be of better construction quality than my Sr225s
Any improvement on build quality and QC? Way too many issues reported below.
Idk if it's just my unit but wow these headphones are sibilant. The hd 6xx were nice but with these, every time there's any type of treble in a song it makes me wince at how sibilant and clippy it is. EDIT: I've now tried them on a topping a30 and they're not sibilant anymore. May contact schiit about their magni 3 and what's going on with it.
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KTech
How does the A30 drive the HE4XX? Looking to get that amp instead of the Schitt Magni 3.
mannukiddo
Pretty well. Some songs require high gain but for the most part I leave it at 9db around half volume. Definitely less sibilant than the magni 3.
I'm selling mine for $132.50 shipped if anyone is interested. Wasn't a fan sadly.
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Sorry i just found a cheap he4xx in my country.
For everyone reading, the product is legit, i saw the photos and recommend the seller.
Thanks and sorry man.
Paulindss
Heya! Nah don’t worry bro, it’s all good
I so want to buy this right now, but having read so many people complaining about poor build quality i am apprehesive. i'm actually surprised why MD isn't doing anything about it even after so many people are complaining about it. I'm sure there are many others who are holding back for the same reason.This is truly heartbreaking.
Were these supposed to bring a set of cables? My box only had the headphones and nothing else. It's alright since I will probably buy separate cables considering what most people say about them here, but I was expecting to at least try the factory ones.
Eriol
Yeah, there should have been a set with your headphones.
i auditioned this headphone, good for vocals, bad for rock and edm
Okay this has obviously been asked before but I've come across so many differing opinions on this subject that I might as well ask.
How good is this headset when it comes to competitive gaming (Xbox) for games such as PUBG, Halo, Gears, CoD? I'm mostly into being able to hear where enemies are and positioning them. I would like a little bit of bass to kind of "feel" explosions but mostly concerned with pinpointing enemies in games.
My options are K7XX, HD58X, HD6XX, HE4XX
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Thanks for the reply, yeah I plan on getting a Optical DAC and Amp to power the headphones that I do choose.
newtohifi2
any reason why you haven't considered the PC37x?
hey guys really new here i just joined the drop for the he4xx. this is my first drop actually as im also new to this whole audio thing haha. got a question to throw out there though . i currently have a fiio q1mk2 i think its just good enough to power these well. question is basically whats a good dac and amp for these guys. preferably something $300 or less. ill go a bit more if its really worth it like i had my eye on the jds element because i heard it can pretty much power anything so that should last me a while you know. any and all recommendations are accepted thanks!!
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that aune x1s and x7s have a drop now im about to get that lmao i heard theyre great and can power anything I'll probably ever want
oh i just saw some people saying the x7s isnt actually balanced although it has an xlr output :/
What’s the turnaround like for screws coming out of the main housing(s)? Mine are barely holding on & I expect them to pop any day.
Are people mostly getting refunds or fixes?
They sound GREAT and are decently comfy. I’ve been babying them pretty obsessively, to have them start to come apart this early is not going to cut for me unfortunately...
phosfiend
Just got a replacement set for the exact same issue, so I can share the full replacement timeline:
Sep 06 - Original support ticket submitted Sep 09 - Received reply offering replacement set and asking for address confirmation for shipping Sep 10 - Replied back with address confirmation Sep 12 - Received confirmation that replacement set would be shipped, as well as return label for existing set Sep 13 - Received shipping confirmation and tracking number. Sep 19 - Package delivered to me in Canada (definitely a reasonable shipping time).
Very happy with the whole replacement experience overall. Getting the advanced replacement means I was able to get back to a working set of 4XX much faster. I also appreciate them correctly handling the customs paperwork to mark the item as a warranty replacement; occasionally smaller companies don't understand this when doing international shipping, so a few times I've had to pay the full customs charges on a warranty replacement product.
karmapopsicle
Thank You! Super thorough & useful. I’m in Canada as well, so this is doubly relevant.
Anyone who has the he4xx also in on the Verum one kick starter? any idea how they compare? The kickstarter ends in four days.
Davestef
Uhh, the Verum One's are only in production as of this date...
From what Zeos has said though, it seems like the HE-4XX will pale in comparison. They're two different tiers; Verum One's will be closer to the high end. Here's his thoughts: https://youtu.be/YXv2q7md0N4
Well, I plugged them in and the left driver doesn't even work. Tried it on 3 different systems, even tried 2 other cables. I opened them up and one of the wires wasn't soldered correctly and I don't have a soldering iron and I've tried way to hard to resolve the issue. I don't even know where else to take this, do I contact like support of some kind and request a new pair with a proof of purchase?
ndreed
If you bought them from this account, just contact support and describe the issue. They'll send you out a replacement set and a shipping label to return the defective set.