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Dicloneus
61
Aug 1, 2017
can't we all have the mindset of "enjoying the sound" like what the product's primary intention is, rather than starting pissing contests of price-to-performance ratios, what driver it uses, etc.?
many companies have released products with specs undisclosed: Unique Melody's Macbeth, Noble Audio's Savant (until someone went as far as deconstructing it to reveal the drivers), a number of FitEar products like the Aya, fitear, and so on. based around the idea of: "stop adhering to specs, and just purely enjoy the sound"
and with a prominent company like HiFiMan, predominantly leading the market for planar magnetics along with Audeze, it's a no-brainer they're not going to compromise in terms of sound quality.
Vigrith
4081
Aug 1, 2017
DicloneusThat's really not what's being discussed here though, that's almost straw man-esque.
Here's the thing - people want to know what they're buying. These are all new headphones and people will be investing their money into them (be it a lot or a little depending on how well off you are, that's irrelevant) so they want to know what to expect. What's the best way of figuring out what they sound like without actually hearing them, especially given the lack of reviews? Knowing what kinda driver they use and looking at measurements.
I don't like measurements either, I like a lot of headphones that measure poorly, I don't care much for graphs and specs but you NEED to know what you're buying. Can you blindly purchase a pair of headphones? Of course, especially when they're affordable, but what's affordable to some may not be affordable to others.
Can you guarantee Joe over there is gonna like the way these sound? You can't, but if you could tell him "okay these are slightly modified 400S drivers and they'll sound more/less x or y or z" then he can more accurately judge what he's getting into. I agree with what you stated regarding HFM's reputation but I also sympathise with those who don't aren't as keen on buying blind.
ProfessorPat
380
Aug 2, 2017
DicloneusYou could get a he-400i for $250 a while back, the he-400 wasn't much different for old stock. Nothing in the 4 series is particularly different in that regard. I don't think people are as concerned about what it is for pricing and value as they are for sound. However, all of these have pretty different sounds. It's not like the hd-6xx, which claimed to be essentially a 650, or the k7xx, which is a modified 702. It's a mystery, born of the tech that comprises 4 different sounds.
At this price, I am curious enough that I may end up with a pair, even going in blind like this, however, I fully appreciate the curiosity of it all. Having something to compare to, something that you know, or have gathered enough varying opinions on, is greatly beneficial in the subjective world of audio reproduction.
Jimmybuckets
91
Aug 2, 2017
VigrithI think the basic idea of putting the frequency response chart that overlays the HD650 is trying to show it will have a similar sound signiture.
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