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Coolhandlukeboy
5
Dec 5, 2017
Just received mine. I really like it. It has very good layering and very good soundstage. The highs are a little harsh and a tiny bit of sibilance if I don't equalize. It's not horrid though and I am sensitive to that. The bass impact is definitely there for an open headphone... I wasn't as impressed with the bass like I thought I'd be. I was hoping for more impact... but it is tight and extends low enough.
Other than that, these feel well made... I really dig the headphones and they are very comfortable. I could see someone with a tall head not liking them for fit. I have a big head, but not a tall head and these are more comfortable than my Audio Technica AD700x and AD900x.
CoolhandlukeboyAfter substantial burn-in, that high harshness/sibilance should go away. If you use a proper headphone amp for them, you will be amazed at what is revealed in the way of detail and balance of lows and mids against that high range. The lows will extend and become more apparent without being overwhelming. Planarmags like a decent amp to be driven adequately.
Coolhandlukeboy
5
Dec 6, 2017
TiffanyPoodleslideI have a few amps, and yes they do well with an amp. There is still a slight sibilance on some treble, but it did mellow out and isn’t much of an issue.
These are are definitely worth the purchase. Only thing that annoys me is a slight distortion sometimes.
I use my Xonar DX DAC to equalize and without equalizing these are far superior to any headphone in that price range I’ve tried.
What amp amp do you use?
CoolhandlukeboyFor my planar mags,(these, Audeze LCD2 and 3), I use The Schiit Lyr and Bifrost combo and the JDS Labs amps, preferred,(of the JDS), being The Element. I use the O2 in the bedroom for drifty relaxed on my back listening. The JDS devices handle the HE4xx amply, but I still really think that the Schiit Lyr is rather the golden pairing for planar mags.
When I am listening to my HD600's, it's pretty much tube amps all the way, as I love how tubes impart an organicity and "liquidy" ambience to the somewhat clinical,(but not unhappily so), HD600s. These planar magnetics also sound very very nice on a tube amp, but they are already more organic and more "mellow", so don't NEED to be tempered by a tube amp. I feel like the Schiit is a best of both worlds amp because it's a hybrid set up.
I think,(and hope for you), that you will find that the distortions should fade away as the "film" diaphragm of these gets a bit more excercise. By definition of how planar mags are made and the drivers operate, they should be essentially free of distortion. If I am hearing distortion on a planar magnetic, I start to examine my source and amp. I start looking for artifact, or I examine what I am doing with volume control. For instance, on my JDS gear, I will choose the lower gain setting,(rule of thumb for any gear is the lower the gain, the better),which absolutely results in a cleaner, more pure and beutifully lucid sound, especially in how the highs are driven.
The Magni is also a very nice pairing with this set of headphones, I use the Magni/Modi combo on my desk at the hospital where I practice. It's a combo that is easily portable enough to drag back and forth in my kit. As is the O2 rig. So, there's that.... it all depends on the application for me.
If you check out my reviews, I have a list of gear used to power the 'phones I am reviewing at the time. There's one here in this thread somewhere....
:)
Coolhandlukeboy
5
Dec 6, 2017
TiffanyPoodleslideHey thanks for the reply. I have a Schiit Magni 3 and these headphones are definitely tightening up a bit. Bass is extending over the past two days too.
Distortion is still there. It isn't overwhelming and isn't omnipresent... just on some things. I don't have this problem with other headphones, like my audio technicas and 6xx I borowed from a friend to test out. It's definitely not a habitual issue with my source, unless these are different. It isn't a deal breaker for me... but I will say this. If I can remove the distortion, these are going to be flawless for that price range for my ears. I love them.
I was thinking of picking up the O2 here since it's on the drop... sounds like you recommend it for the price. My problem is I always buy around $100 amps... so I have three of them, but I probably should just bite the bullet and get a good one around $300
CoolhandlukeboyForgot to mention that I also have a Schiit Valhalla in my spare room. Very nice amp for almost anything I toss on it. :)
Here's the dealio in making your price-point decision,(okay, MY take on it); spend what it takes to get the amp that will carry you, and your gear, into the future. It helps to know just what you preference is in headphones. I sort of start THERE when I am deciding on bigger money gear that will support the future. Unless you are hugely eclectic in your headphones likes and purchases, finding the DAC/amp rig that suits your particular "flavour" in cans isn't terribly difficult, if you spend enough,(and with a very good gear builder), to get something that will last you for some years. Some of my Schiit gear is what some would call OLD, but it still gets the job done sweetly. Comparing the sound of the newer version vs the older version, in many cases, isn't resulting in new being "the winner", and, sometimes, there's an Upgrade/Update tweek that can be managed, like changing out an opamp....
Check out listings on HeadFi and ebay. Sometimes you will find exactly what you want for a really good price. Or here. I think the biggest caveat to buying Massdrop is that you have to have patience for shipping and, sometimes, be willing to wait it out to get a sweet deal.
Remembering that the O2 is at a nice, discount price here helps, I think. A SS amp is a nice choice for these headphones. Again... it's all about taste and what YOU like, what makes YOU happy.
A truth about the Lyr is that you get SS and Tube, all in a single package, from a reputable builder of gear. HeadFi, for the most part, loves Schiit. And we're a picky lot over there. If it were me, at what sounds like a bit of a crossroads, I would probably try to get ahold of one of Schiits hybrid amps like the Lyr. It's more pricey going in, and you will need a decent DAC for it,(the Magni should work for 100 bux), but it will take you down the road NICELY and handle about any headphone,including IEMs, that you plug into it.
I don't have any fiscal interest in Schiit, btw. I just like their gear, and have done for years and years. The only "brand " I prefer to Schiit is Woo.... but that's not where you want to go if you want the supreme flexibility you can get with Schiit, and LOTTA more bux to buy Woo.
:)
Coolhandlukeboy
5
Dec 6, 2017
TiffanyPoodleslideReally appreciate the responses. I'm still a beginner in all this (money, money, money, lol). I can definitely save up for a good OTL. Would the Magni or O2 actually power the HD6xx? Or would I really need a good OTL to avoid distortion?
I was looking at the DarkVoice 336se and am very likely to get it at the price it is on Massdrop. My experience with Schiit is that their amps are brighter than most and I'm leaning toward a warmer sound.
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