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TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 3, 2017
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Redbaaron
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Dec 3, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideIs the sound improvement really worth looking ridiculous while wearing them? 😝
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 3, 2017
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Redbaaronwell.......
I tend to only listen to them alone at home, except for the terriers.
Who are pretty okay with :ridiculous";
Actually, when they are on, you don't really see that.
okay, you can see the tape.....
but..... in answer to your question......
YES.
LOL.
I tend to only listen to them alone at home, except for the terriers.
Who are pretty okay with :ridiculous";
Actually, when they are on, you don't really see that.
okay, you can see the tape.....
but..... in answer to your question......
YES.
LOL.
Redbaaron
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Dec 3, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideI see your genius!
BTW Zeiss lens wipes are the BEST. I buy them in bulk. Now I have another use for the box.
BTW Zeiss lens wipes are the BEST. I buy them in bulk. Now I have another use for the box.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 3, 2017
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RedbaaronCORRECT.
Amazon BULK buy of the Zeiss. That, and Kimwipes for delicate surfaces, like glass.
It's tricky getting the Kimwipes box to fit a terrier head..... ...still working on that one.
Amazon BULK buy of the Zeiss. That, and Kimwipes for delicate surfaces, like glass.
It's tricky getting the Kimwipes box to fit a terrier head..... ...still working on that one.
Redbaaron
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Dec 3, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideThat would certainly require a lot of silk tape.
Redbaaron
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Dec 4, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideSince we're already grossly off topic and I had some spare time today...
EniGmA1987
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Dec 5, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideSo you moved the headphones physically farther away from your head, and it made the sound stage seem more spread out and farther apart. Imagine that, physics doing what it always has. ;)
ok, lol. Im done making fun. Doing real things makes real things happen, that is how it works. I just thought it seemed funny how the mod sounded as you typed it when it is a basic 1+1=2 things.
Good job modding them to your enjoyment though, so few people have no grasp that they can make modifications to alter the sound to better fit their liking.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 5, 2017
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EniGmA1987thanks....
been doing little simple-minded mods since my first quarter mod of a Grado set, then on to the more adventurous world of Fostex TRP50's a la HeadFi years ago.
yeah, sounds stupidly easy. sorry. It's just that the most important part of your comment is actually quite correct; people don't realize that they can do schtuff themselves to make things better and they worry a LOT about doing damage to something they saved, maybe for a year, or months, to buy.... I thought I'd chip up something easy and kind of funny, and that wouldn't harm the gear.
;)
been doing little simple-minded mods since my first quarter mod of a Grado set, then on to the more adventurous world of Fostex TRP50's a la HeadFi years ago.
yeah, sounds stupidly easy. sorry. It's just that the most important part of your comment is actually quite correct; people don't realize that they can do schtuff themselves to make things better and they worry a LOT about doing damage to something they saved, maybe for a year, or months, to buy.... I thought I'd chip up something easy and kind of funny, and that wouldn't harm the gear.
;)
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 5, 2017
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RedbaaronI honestly think you could just put the entire dog inside the box.
Maybe little cut-outs for the legs to go through....
but see? They clearly LOVE it. There's more to this than people know.
but see? They clearly LOVE it. There's more to this than people know.
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideNice mod, I guess you don't like bass at all.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyWhat?
I like bass just fine.
But you can improve stage a tad without removing all bass.
It's just as if they have a bit less padding, that's all.
Really simple minded. Give it a whirl, see how it sounds to you. I just find myself liking improved stage maybe more than lotta bass. If I have to choose,(which I don't, since they invented the EQ), I'd pick better stage and a bit more air than a claustrophobic but very present bass.
Not to fear; these little bits of foam don't rob the bass.
...or are you talking about how much better the lens wipe boxes sound after slight modification by inserting a dogs head?
Really simple minded. Give it a whirl, see how it sounds to you. I just find myself liking improved stage maybe more than lotta bass. If I have to choose,(which I don't, since they invented the EQ), I'd pick better stage and a bit more air than a claustrophobic but very present bass.
Not to fear; these little bits of foam don't rob the bass.
...or are you talking about how much better the lens wipe boxes sound after slight modification by inserting a dogs head?
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideNo no. Subbass. Must be gone with your mod.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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RedbaaronThis is true.
I'm trying to figure if we need to create little head-bands, or if friction alone will hold that in place.
hey. did harvey just call me a "Subbass"?
hey. did harvey just call me a "Subbass"?
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharvey(pssst! you DO realize that I had listened to these PLENTY before adding those little foam bits,which, btw, are about as permanent as dandelion fluff, right?)
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyummm.... these are OPEN-BACKED cans, dude?
sooooo..... what seal?
not like Fostex, dig?
.....or are you using some vacuum tech mod that I'm not aware of? Like, Seal A Meal down over the head, before each listen?
not like Fostex, dig?
.....or are you using some vacuum tech mod that I'm not aware of? Like, Seal A Meal down over the head, before each listen?
zhouharvey
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TiffanyPoodleslideThe poor little bass extension could be gone. I'll try it and see if that's the case soon.
Redbaaron
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideSomething about getting a good seal in the subbass...
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyI PROMISE.
It's fine.
The sound is still there. A couple tiny pieces of foam do not magically make sounds produced at the magnaplanar speakers disappear as though they never were. Maybe not as loud, but still present. I'm not a bass-head, this is true. But, if it's in the music, I DO, ABSOLUTELY, want the music to still be true to what was recorded.
It's why I have spent as much cash and WORK on my audio gear as I have. Because I am picky, and going after that most blissfully faithful repro of what got recorded is a passion that has me trying hundred of headphones and amps and dacs and source gear and re-building a room in my home for listening perfection and and and.... and I will probly still be at it when I'm hundred years old.
unless I'm completely deaf.
Then it will be about the prettiest Tube Combination for my Woo amps to offer the most visually appealing aesthetic possible in a darkened room. If that ever happens, I'll offer the foam mods to you FIRST. ;)
unless I'm completely deaf.
Then it will be about the prettiest Tube Combination for my Woo amps to offer the most visually appealing aesthetic possible in a darkened room. If that ever happens, I'll offer the foam mods to you FIRST. ;)
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideThen you're right. But no bass extension headphones I don't like.
Redbaaron
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideI'm on board with wanting more of an open sound with slightly reduced mid-bass. Have you tried the suede ZMF earpads? I keep eyeing them from across the aisle, wondering if they'll like me.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyIt's all good, man.
Personal preferences are AWESOME.
Which is why there are so very many varieties of headphones and gear sets to choose from.
Which gives us some WONDERFUL things to experience.
BTW.... while that little mod I did affected the sound stage just a bit... it's also a bit of creative humour. I enjoy trying different little things with a sense of fun at the same time. Something stupid like this doesn't even require courage with your money, as it's so not permanent.
I think the best way to think about what I was doing is like thinking about how different ear-tips affect the sound of IEMs. Or how differently on-ears present sound than in-ears. In ears with a good and correct seal nearly ALWAYS offer more bass-ness, yet on-ear offer better stage and are at less risk of detail loss due to muffling caused by anatomy and poor ear-tip choice.
Have you got your HE4XXers yet? Are you liking them lots and lots?
BTW.... while that little mod I did affected the sound stage just a bit... it's also a bit of creative humour. I enjoy trying different little things with a sense of fun at the same time. Something stupid like this doesn't even require courage with your money, as it's so not permanent.
I think the best way to think about what I was doing is like thinking about how different ear-tips affect the sound of IEMs. Or how differently on-ears present sound than in-ears. In ears with a good and correct seal nearly ALWAYS offer more bass-ness, yet on-ear offer better stage and are at less risk of detail loss due to muffling caused by anatomy and poor ear-tip choice.
Have you got your HE4XXers yet? Are you liking them lots and lots?
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideNot yet. I might because I had hifiman's flagships before, but that old Hifiman look really grabbed me. Bought one already and it'll come this week.
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideBut I do have feeling that the 4xx will be more pleasing to me than the HD650s haha.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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RedbaaronI have a pair of them I got for another set of mags but never put on.
I think you should like them, as they reduce the potential for sweat that there is with the un-modded HE4XXers.
These could have been more premium-y in materiels, I guess,(as another poster observed), but I thought, especiallyat this price point, that they are pretty well built for a set of mags that don't weight 42 kg per ear.
It's easy enough to try cutting your own ring of fabric and trying it between your face and the can. My take on that, however, is that you can always do with another set of earpads.
Do you Grado?
Do you Grado?
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyI think that's quite possible.
But this is Apples and Oranges.
The way the drivers produce sound is quite different from each other.
I have found that I like these better for some musics, and my Senns better for other musics. I very much specialize which set of headphones and which rig I use to power them with each music type and listening situation. Just about striving for optimization of the experience, you know?
Which amp/rig will you be using to drive these?
I have found that I like these better for some musics, and my Senns better for other musics. I very much specialize which set of headphones and which rig I use to power them with each music type and listening situation. Just about striving for optimization of the experience, you know?
Which amp/rig will you be using to drive these?
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideProbably will use my woo audio 6 se to see tube matching. I have too many solid states. Probably see how it goes with my school magni 3.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyBoth choices will be good ones.
I like how these sound on both the Woo and the Schiit.
cheers!
cheers!
zhouharvey
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideWhat's roughly the dimentions of your foam cut? Will also try a ZMF pad that I have, very deep and angled, same idea as yours.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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zhouharveyokay, so I didn't cut anything away from the earpds.
I just cut a couple of sections of foam from a packing box,(that had held a set of headphones), equally sized for each ear, of course;
55mm long X 20mm X 20mm , with a very slight angle to the inside for conformity sake.
Side;
Length-wise;
End-on;
As you can see, the cans have sustained no damage from having put on the foam, removed when not in use;
And also- the separation is VERY discrete distance from your face. Because the foam compresses, there's only a very small air gap at your face below the ear. YOu may have to experiment with how thick yours need to be because it depends on how much clamping your headband does on your particular set of cans. Nice thing too; you can use these on other headphones. I think I want to work on a velcro version of these next. Not much knowledge about all things sewing though.... :(
Length-wise;
End-on;
As you can see, the cans have sustained no damage from having put on the foam, removed when not in use;
And also- the separation is VERY discrete distance from your face. Because the foam compresses, there's only a very small air gap at your face below the ear. YOu may have to experiment with how thick yours need to be because it depends on how much clamping your headband does on your particular set of cans. Nice thing too; you can use these on other headphones. I think I want to work on a velcro version of these next. Not much knowledge about all things sewing though.... :(
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Dec 19, 2017
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TiffanyPoodleslideWE HAVE A SEWING COMMUNITY!!!!
Wonder how many in there understand the nuances of Velcro?
next thing ya know..... TiffanyPoodleslide X Massdrop HeadFoam Mods!
*heads over to the Quilting Bee*
Wonder how many in there understand the nuances of Velcro?
next thing ya know..... TiffanyPoodleslide X Massdrop HeadFoam Mods!
*heads over to the Quilting Bee*
tmash
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Jan 19, 2018
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TiffanyPoodleslideI can't believe the difference it made, the farther the speaker from my ear, the more bass and treble and less mids. I think it could be that my DAC impedence is too high so the bass is around the driver not in the center, which is common in planars.
I discovered this by accident while listening to music and adjusting the headband. I recommend everyone just to stick their fingers in place of the foam to give it a try, the bass extends beautifully, treble will also be little more sibilant.
Redbaaron
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Apr 17, 2018
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TiffanyPoodleslideReviving this thread, so sorry.
It took me some time with Dekoni pleather pads tonight to notice a _significant_ loss in the lower bass extension when "sealed". Now I notice it more that I know what I was missing. There's almost a percussive feeling we're losing out on.
Did you ever find a permanent solution for your earpads?
I also tried Brainwavz perforated pleather (too much distance between ear and driver) and Shure velours (more airy in the treble, but everything else is more muddled). The difference in the bass isn't as noticeable than with straight up pleather. Aside from the bass issue, I liked the sound more with the Dekonis...so I'm disappointed. Back to the stock pads for the time being.
It took me some time with Dekoni pleather pads tonight to notice a _significant_ loss in the lower bass extension when "sealed". Now I notice it more that I know what I was missing. There's almost a percussive feeling we're losing out on.
Did you ever find a permanent solution for your earpads?
I also tried Brainwavz perforated pleather (too much distance between ear and driver) and Shure velours (more airy in the treble, but everything else is more muddled). The difference in the bass isn't as noticeable than with straight up pleather. Aside from the bass issue, I liked the sound more with the Dekonis...so I'm disappointed. Back to the stock pads for the time being.
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Apr 17, 2018
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RedbaaronWell.
What I wound up doing was to get some double sided tape for the foam wedgies that I had made.
(Couldn't find a quilting bee who were interested in the velcro dealie.....)
Easy enough to put in or take out, depending what I am listening to.
I really gotta say, I LIKE the way they sound with those stupidly cheap wedgies in there.
I wonder if you could just put the wedgies sort of permanently on the Dekonis and then switch pads depending on what you are listening to. Wonder what would happen if you chose an inexpensive pad and tried cutting a wedge out of the bottom of each pad- instead of a wedge distancing the cup from your head, you have a gap in the pad itself. Hmm. I may have to do an experiment here.
*goes in search of scissors and the parts box*
I wonder if you could just put the wedgies sort of permanently on the Dekonis and then switch pads depending on what you are listening to. Wonder what would happen if you chose an inexpensive pad and tried cutting a wedge out of the bottom of each pad- instead of a wedge distancing the cup from your head, you have a gap in the pad itself. Hmm. I may have to do an experiment here.
*goes in search of scissors and the parts box*
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Apr 17, 2018
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RedbaaronI wonder if Rogue there isn't just more of an IEM sorta dogue.....
RayF
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Apr 18, 2018
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TiffanyPoodleslideNext time the Sandpaper and Varnish community has a drop, jump on it--time to refinish that desk/table!
RayF
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TiffanyPoodleslideI'm fortunate enough to have a head that's already shaped like that--without the extra foam. Lucky me, no?
TiffanyPoodleslide
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Apr 18, 2018
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RayFnaaaahhhh.
It's distressed - just about character and the style of, oh, being a work table/bench.
Sandpaper and varnish would just ruin the ambience.
;)
Redbaaron
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Apr 19, 2018
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TiffanyPoodleslideAlright, I'm now more convinced than ever that the solution is venting the pads, not moving the cups farther apart. It's really bothering me right now...and I don't want to cut or tear up my spare pads :(
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Very non-destructive and simple...
so, after a lengthy listen on these HE4XXers, I found myself thinking that the stage could be improved just a tad. Lifting the bottoms of the cans ever so slightly from my jaw-line opened the sound BEAUTIFULLY. Grabbed a bit of the foam from a packing box, cut a couple of strips and mini-blocks from it, and, using some silk tape, which doesn't leave messy adhesive behind upon removal, attached the strips to the bottom rim of the pads. VOILÁ! Enough separation is achieved that the stage is improved dramatically. If it's not enough. one can shove the mini-blocks into position between the face and that taped-on strip. These clamp enough that the blocks don't just fall out during wear*.
* unless you are doing jumping jacks.....
:)