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johndempsey
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Jun 1, 2018
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slugabedI got mine day before yesterday. Sounded quite good. Left them connected overnight to white noise on iPad. They sounded better yesterday. They need breaking-in. Hifiman suggests at least 100 hours. I very much like the percussion sound but I think all of these need a decent break-in period before they hit their stride.
Caiz
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Oct 24, 2018
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slugabedFirstly i'd like to write something even though i don't have the MDR-V6, if that's okay., Hmm, i'd try comparing them with a good headphone amp. How much power in milliwatts and voltage does the hifiman need for proper driving? The cans are alot more power hungry then your akg's at least, im pretty sure./ 93db @ 32ohm according to the poorly written hifiman site,. i would guess they mean it's 93dbpsl/v, so pretty power hungry cans... However, that said according to innerfildelity the frequency response, when properly driven, is pretty accurate, but yes it's perhaps in some ways less "easy" and representative in treble then your MDR, at least to 10,000hz. The mdr has been measured and found to have a nice gradual lift to the treble, however the hifiman just something of a jump, if you have sufficient power, however, i feel the hifiman will have much better(more accurate) lower bass and sub bass but yeah the sloping rise of the mdr is nicer then the jump on the hifiman at least something, however, the mdr also over represents the treble more then the hifiman does, at least to 10,000hz, that said a sloping rise would seem more natural then even a smaller jump, in the representation of a sound. these difference in response might account for your experience. keep listening and give it a bit of time, but I'd keep an eye on the exchange terms. someone else here who wrote a critical review of the hifiman also prefers his mdr-v6 to these... take a look at the raw measurements, not the compensated to see what I'm referencing https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MassdropHiFiMANHE4XX.pdf https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDRV6.pdf frequency would mean the tone of the sound, the higher from 0 the higher the pitch, amplitude means how loud in volume that frequency is reproduced at in this reference test. ideally; all frequencies would be reproduced at the same amplitude. so a bass sound recorded at 90 decibels volume would be reproduced at 90 decibels and that a treble sound also recorded at 90 decibels would be reproduced by the headphone also at 90 decibels, so to speak.,, so if the line is flat than there can be a proper representation of the recorded materials.., that's said were dealing with imperfect instruments for reproduction. limited by today's technology and market offerings.., ;-) So yes, the hifiman phone has a bit of a "jump" in the treble region, which is not nice, however, it doesn't over represent the upper treble region as much as the sony phone does, at the test configuration, and the mdr has a relatively "good treble" to 3500hz, which is nice, but it over represents after that; so if your used to listening to an over represented treble from your tracks, or have materials to 3000hz or 4000hz that might account for your feelings. most of the from a tambourine is scoped up to 4000hz i understand, so yes a recorded tambourines sound signature is probably overall better represented with the mdr-v6, i'd say.., Straight line for response is ideal i say, and that a gradual rise is preferable to any jumps, generally speaking.. if you have an equalizer, you might find some happiness in tuning. Perhaps if you have a graphic equalizer add a +4 decibel boost at 2000hz for the hifiman might help but 0db setting around 1000ish and see if that helps the hifiman.., i think nobody naturally wants to eq', but the point of it (proper) is to compensate for the shortcomings in reproduction of today's hardware.. yeah some treble may be "nicer"on the mdr-6, but i wouldn't call that prefect either, but i can see how you might find it preferable.. Sorry if i wasn't the type of responder you were looking for, but i thought you might like some support in the issue. I can see a basis for that.
http://www.ovnilab.com/articles/eqtypes.shtml <--- equalizer information.
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So. I'm not crazy about the sound of these headphones. I've run them on a Yamaha solid state amp, a small device with a 12ax7 line stage and op-amp drive, and the headphone outputs of two different DC-powered CD players. The source material was a couple of CD's I'm very familiar with. With the exception of the Yamaha amp (which sounded more horrible on the HE4XX's) all of the devices yielded the same results: a reference pair of Sony MDR-V6 phones sounded far more dynamic and detailed than the HE4XX headphones. Tympani on the Sony's sounded like tympani, and on the HE4's they sounded like someone dropped a cardboard box on a wooden floor, with none of characteristic ring of the kettle. Vocal sibilants were muffled, with little air around the sound. Massed violins sounded like someone had taken a pallet knife to the texture - I couldn't pick out an individual instrument or color the way I could on the Sony's. Bass was slow to arrive and light in the ass when it got there.
Really disappointing so far, given the expectations I had for the technology. I'll test it against the AD700's, but I won't waste my testing it against the Stax.
If anyone else out there is still using their MDR-V6 cans, would you weigh in with a comparison? I'd love to hear a second opinion on this. Thanks.