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Aug 2, 2016

Hi , I would like to use one with my hammock. Do you think it is rigid enough to avoid some of the banana shape of a hennesy hammock ?

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lesovik

Aug 2, 2016

VizdrumI tried Static V2 on my company's hammocks (single layer, gather end, non-asym but sleeping diagonal) - works nice, gives unbelievable level of comfort, but does not help you stay flat due to "dynamic V shape" which basically means is flexes almost as the hammomck itself - which in fact is great thing. Addidtionally, when wrapped around your back and shoulders it DOES NOT isolate your arms - they stay outside the pad, Static V2 is too narrow (I'm 186 cm / 92 kg, regular-athletic type). I would recommend Stativ V2 for summer hammock camping for comfort and warmth, I'm waiting for autumn to test it combined with some light UQ.

Vizdrum

Aug 3, 2016

lesovikWould you have for now a recommendation for under quilt ? Thank you for the super nice hammock review !

lesovik

Aug 3, 2016

VizdrumDo you mean what UQ do I recommend? Since there's only one manufaturer of hammock UQs in Poland - which happens to be my company - I use my own products. Climashield Apex 4.0, 1.2 oz outer and inner layer fabric with DWR, 750g / 26.5 oz total, temp. range -10/+10 C. For obvious reasons I'm not giving any names or links, but my nickname might give you a hint.
In warmer conditions I temporarily use modified US Army poncho liner, but that's only untill next summer season.

tyjonboy

Aug 3, 2016

VizdrumI use the static V lite in my hammock, and I think it works really well.

ElectronicVices

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Aug 3, 2016

tyjonboyI use the insulated light version in my hammock + a cheap snugpak underquilt during my winter trips and have been sleeping like a baby (into the high teens/20's). As mentioned previously this won't help the "banana" effect due to it's V-design. For that I would suggest playing with your hang distance/ridge line to get a better angle on the sag.

Vizdrum

Aug 3, 2016

lesovikNice underquilt you have ! and LONG ^^, you are not interested in putting it in the underquilts poll ?

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Vizdrum

Aug 3, 2016

ElectronicVicesThank you all for your input. I finally made my choice for the wider one. I would have gone with the one from Massdrop if at least it was longer (1.90m) , but being the same length as their opriginal model and narrower (albeit much lighter) made me go for a refurbished one from klymit. Had I been below 1.80 m I would have chosen this ultralight Massdrop model for sure. So here goes my cry for next models : STOP MAKING EQUIPMENT NOT FIT FOR TALL PEOPLE ! MAKE A 1.90m OR EVEN 1.95m PAD !

ComfortablyNumb

Aug 4, 2016

VizdrumI'm 6'4" tall and I prefer regular sized sleeping pads. You can put some clothes or your pack underneath your feet but having my feet an inch or so lower than the rest of my body really isn't an issue nor do I feel longer pads are worth the weight.
However, the narrow width is a deal breaker for mean. I'd purchase a 25" wide version if it's available in the future.

hawkerbabe

Aug 4, 2016

VizdrumI used the Static V Lite insulated in my hammock with no problems.

DannyMilks

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Aug 4, 2016

ComfortablyNumbThanks for the comment and your idea has been noted. Most of the requests I've had from the community are for a short pad, to save weight, @Vizdrume . And like @ComfortablyNumb pointed out, it's easy to put a few things at your feet, or use a pillow for your head, to make any pad 'longer.'
Seems like top three requests are a wider pad (really wide, like 25"), a torso pad, and for flat valves. @HubeyDoobyDoo is spot-on that I am taking note of all your suggestions on ways to improve the pad or make a different one. FYI, I read every single comment that is posted in all UL drops and polls.

Vizdrum

Aug 4, 2016

DannyMilksThanks Danny, For me the length of the pad matters becausse I intend to use it in a hammock. In a tent I would add a pillow and gain a good ten inches, but doing so in a hammock doesn't work as well, at least in my experience (I end up with the "pillow" all over my face). If anyone has tips on making the pad longer in a hammock, I'm interested. Also for the width I would say that 21" is alright (but not perfect either), but then again I am an asparagus. I think that the best way to measure the MAX width needed for the pad would be the distance in between your elbows when your hands are on your stomach. And a last thought (for now), what about making the pad slightly narrower at the head to gain some weight ?

Newguy

Aug 8, 2016

DannyMilksThanks, Danny! I think a huge miss in the market, as I previously stated, is a 25" wide pad that's only 72" long. With or without a taper. Beyond manufacturing challenges, I seriously can't understand why more vendors don't offer this setup.

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DannyMilks

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Aug 8, 2016

Newguy @Newguy - Besides the weight and pack size, another disadvantage of a wider pad is that it would necessitate a larger tent or bivy to accommodate the additional width. Most shelters are designed around the 20" standard pad width.

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Newguy

Aug 9, 2016

DannyMilksYea, a bivy could be an issue. But, I don't think any tent would be. Popular examples, Solomid innernet - 27"W; Zpacks Solplex - 30"W; Tarptent Notch - 32"W. ON the contrary, two people sleeping in a two man tent (Zpacks Duplex - 45"W) would indeed have an issue. These days with crazy light shelter weights, though, I think a lot of duos are using three man tents and it seems that there are way more solo hikers than duos. FWIW...

DannyMilks

4557

Aug 9, 2016

Newguy @Newguy - I think you're right, most 1P shelters would accommodate a wider pad, but 2P shelters would be a squeeze. And like you said, a lot of people 'size up' because many shelters are not so spacious.

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