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Massdrop x MEE audio Planamic In-Ear Monitors

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Nov 13, 2018

These have such an uneven sound to them. It's like someone is shouting directly into my ears.

Nov 13, 2018

rofflemywafflePlay them for 50 hours, they should improve!

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Nov 13, 2018

rofflemywaffleI'm not hearing the same problem. Every frequency sounds very clear and even to me

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Nov 13, 2018

JWolters @JWolters , what tips are you using? I noticed that the default silicone ones had a very shallow stem that made it by default a super deep insert for me. Changing the tips helped a bit, but the overall tonality is still way too shouty for me.

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Nov 13, 2018

rofflemywafflelargest foam tips, which still don't feel large enough. I am not getting a great seal with them but once they expand it's good enough. Sound is very tight....I think I am not noticing any emphasized bass because of my problem with the tips. I ordered some Large Comply tips and hope that fixes the fit issue. I feel like they are not getting deep enough.

Nov 13, 2018

rofflemywaffleAlso, I recall seeing that these respond very well to some EQ"ing. I have a Radsone EarStudio tiny bluetooth amp that has an accompanying app that has a great EQ. I highly recommend it

Nov 13, 2018

rofflemywaffleI hear the same yelling, but on a lower volume setting they sound ok... I have mine playing through my iPhone now to try and settle them some. I will switch to an amp for pink noise tomorrow. ill let you know how it turns out!!

Nov 14, 2018

rofflemywaffleIt's not you. There's an awful peak somewhere. I had to stop listening to a song it was so bad. I'm looking at the charts now to try and see what the deal is.

tinyman392

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditThere's a 4k peak in the provided measurements (both compensated and uncompensated).

Nov 14, 2018

tinyman392I think it's the huge rolloff after 4kHz that's getting to me. I didn't think it would be that bad looking at the charts but the FR sounds uneven as hell on some songs and some notes in the lower treble region are over pronounced and glaring. I'm also not getting this visceral bass I keep reading about either. But, they're new so trying to give them more time before I come to any firm conclusion.

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tinyman392

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditI never expected the signature to sound even. I was imagining more of a V-shaped signature like the V-Moda M-100 or something along those lines. The extremely forward vocals kind of caught me off guard, but I'm also a sucker for extremely sweet vocals. I'll admit there is a slight misbalance to them, that dip in the treble after 4k kind of does kill it too. The headphones seem to be set up to boost bass and vocals which adds on upper midrange as well. Despite that, I don't get a sense of warmth to them. In many ways, they are very polar to what sorts of headphones have been popular lately (many geared towards the Harman curve). Edit: in response to the bass comment, try different tips (even ones that didn't come with them) to get a better fit. Also the genre of music will make a difference as well. More mainstream songs tend to have a strong thump that hits in a more visceral fashion.

Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditI had the same experience as you: some songs just sound horrible with these. Every now and then a song comes on with vocals that pierce my eardrum which is not a pleasant experience at all. It doesn't seem like any amount of burning in or tip rolling will fix that for me.

Nov 14, 2018

tinyman392Just so you know, I owned the Campfire Vega and currently own the Atlas. So, when I hear people say visceral bass, I was expecting something to their level. The planamic has pretty good bass but it is definitely lacking in the sub-bass region and overall sounds very bloomy. For some genres this sin't that big of a deal but on some tracks is comes off as cloudy and incoherent. It could be my expectations were so high after reading about the quality of bass but oh well. I think the Atlas has just spoiled me. I'm going to try and give these some more time but otherwise I'm going to get rid of them.

Nov 14, 2018

rofflemywaffleThat's where I'm at too. I was running them balanced out of the THX 789 and that still didn't help them. I have to listen at such a low volume for that peak to not bother me that I can't even enjoy the music. I own a lot of gear and this is the first time I have legitimately felt letdown by a product. And the P1/PX has a weird tuning and some weird spikes but not like this.

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditI am not getting visceral bass either....I think they sound good generally though. Very clean. I have other tips arriving tomorrow that will hopefully give a better seal and improve deep bass response...

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditplus I hate this stupid cable.

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Nov 14, 2018

JWoltersYeah, I think it's just another case of people overstating how good the bass is. It's not bad, just a boomy and lacking tightness and control. The Atlas sounds just like my subwoofers in my home theater setup. The bass sounds very "one note" to my ears on a lot of songs. I have used all my Comply tips (SmartCore comfort and sport), Final E tips, Spinfits, random silicones I had, triple flange from the PX, etc. Nothing has worked for me. I've swapped cabled, ran them balanced and unbalanced from an iFi nano BL and the THX 789 and I am not getting this visceral bass and can't mitigate that weird 4 kHz edginess. I dunno. This is the first time I am unhappy with the performance of an IEM.

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditAre you able to use EQ at all? They respond very nicely to it. Supposedly because of the low distortion drivers.

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Nov 14, 2018

JWoltersEQ isn't going to solve the issue I'm having. I am apparently sensitive in that region to this peak. Which is odd as this is the first time I have ever been this bothered by an FR peak. Things can get sibilant or a bit hot to my ears every now and then but these are physically causing me pain/discomfort on certain tracks where that peak and roll-off is emphasized. I am not exaggerating when I say I have to change the track it's so bad. For me, why bother with EQ when I have nicer IEMs that don't require any EQ to sound amazing? I was really just interested in the tech and figured for the cost I could do a lot worst. Oh well. I guess when I get to selling them, someone is going to get a good deal.

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditGood point. i hope you can sell them for a good price. Better hope buyers aren’t reading this forum, lol

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tinyman392

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Nov 14, 2018

jaydunndidditI'm not getting very boomy or uncontrolled in any setting. The sub-bass is rolled off but still holds presence for me but isn't as forward as the mid-bass is. I get a strong tight impact with an average decay, but nothing that I'd call boomy. I do get a little bit of veiling between within the bass itself that results in a loss of separation; it borderline hits muddy. I'd describe this as cloudy or incoherent (as you did), though I haven't been able to hear this in too many songs. It seems to occur when there is complex bass passages within a song. I would expect it to be dirtier than something like the Vega (measurements show it starting the bass boost at 500Hz while the Planamic starts around 800Hz). Also keep in mind price here though. A lot of the impressions on the midrange I'm hearing reminds me a lot of how I heard the MEE A151p midrange. The A151 (first gen) is known to be a darker headphone. The midrange had a piercingly hard harshness to it that made them unlistenable for me. Same results, I had to listen to them at extremely low volumes to not have that effect. This was most likely due to fitment issues rather than the headphones themselves as no one else that had those headphones at the time (and even now) had this particular issue. I feel like this was due to a resonance around the 3k region within my ear canal rather than a flaw of the headphone itself since it was well outside what anyone else was hearing. Does this carry over with the Planamic? I don't know, there's a possibility that this could be whats happening, but there is also a possibility that the headphone is to blame or a combination of the two (maybe I'm missing another external factor). We do know there is a spike at 4k, and if the shape of your ear in conjunction with the shape of the Planamic just happens to create a 4k resonance, you're not going to have a good time. Similar to how my ear and the shape of the A151p probably created a 3k resonance that created an extremely harsh midrange and vocals. If this does turn out to be the case, I'm really sorry to hear that :( I've been there and it sucks. Also note that I'm coming from listening to sound signatures that are more warm over neutral. Mainly planar dynamic headphones (iSine, Sine, HE-560, HE-400S, HE-400i, PM3, Mobius, etc.). Granted none of these are in the same remote price range as the Planamic. It could describe why I feel they are more visceral. The closest IEM I have to these would be the HiFiMan RE-1000 CIEM (which I still need to A-B). Right now I'm running mainly from the AAW Capri cable since the noise floor isn't too high (lots of headphones seems sensitive to it, this one isn't for whatever reason), but also have used the stock cable (remote + mic) with the supplied Apple adapter. Song quality is Apple Music 256 AAC. Not the best and highest quality, but good enough.

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Nov 14, 2018

IdontevenknowdudeMy first brief listen while burning the in. The voices have stop the shouting and have smoothed over significantly! Now the treble is extremely sibilant. I will give it more time to see how it settles in; in a few hours!

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Nov 15, 2018

IdontevenknowdudeThree hours later, the sibilance has reduced. Even being played at the highest volume, wayyy less tooth shattering treble! The iem in total still sounds a bit muddy, however, it sounds thirty percent better than its first impression.

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cwelton17

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Nov 15, 2018

JWoltersAny sellers feel free to slide in my DMs lol

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Nov 16, 2018

IdontevenknowdudeYeah no, not for me. They still sound like something stabbing my ear after burning them in over an entire day.

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Nov 16, 2018

rofflemywaffleDefinitely inferior sounding iems, I just gave those away... LOL! Eq, cable switch and all after burn in, nothing could help them!

jeffri

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Nov 19, 2018

rofflemywaffleJust got mine... My first impression reflect yours, this is so uneven and hardly coherent. Man, I don't get their tuning for this. The mid bass to lower mid sounds good, but they had to mess up with the rest of the frequency. Like I can see the potential of the driver... but this is just borderline unbearable. I hope burn in can do something to it, but I wouldn't count on it.

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