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donutcat

182

Jan 17, 2017

I want to like this set, I really do. The first picture of the caps basically sealed the deal for me, but then I bothered to look closer. While I prefer centered legends for a uniform spherical profile, I can see the targeted aesthetic and appreciate that the look as a whole is good, reminding me of vintage Apple boards. Beige on grey is a welcome change from the light grey on grey that I see so often. The icon mods, while coming across as somewhat strange, do not feel bad. In fact, I believe that I would give them a chance over the text mods, if they weren't centered and contrasting with the alphas alignment. Looking at the F-row keys, I notice that a capital F is used for each key instead of a lowercase f, while every other text legend in the set uses a lowercase letter. I think it would have looked more like it belonged if lowercase f's were used instead. Including a centered stepped capslock key in the main kit feels odd, but the inclusion of an offcenter one in the Tsangan kit makes up for it, though since the rest of the text mods are all on a single line, I feel that changing the capslock key to simply read "caps" would better fit the feel of the set. Coming to the Bauhaus kit, I have a much stronger feeling of misgiving in that I feel that the addition of colored mods is really just due to the fact that every "granite wannabe" set happens to have them, and that I don't see a clear connection between including generic colored mods and bauhaus mentality. The Calculator kit feels complete with plenty of keys, but the fact that most of the modifier keys for this kit have their legends centered instead of corner aligned feels wrong. The corner alignment is what gives this set much of its look, but it feels like the numpad mods were given less thought than the main kits and just had a kit thrown together because it's not usually purchased as much. This lack of thought on some of the legends continues in the Ortholinear mods kit and the Ergodox kit. In each kit, the backspace key is the only text key that spills into two lines of text instead of one. This makes it feel quite different and constantly draws my eyes to it. I think this could be remedied by simply having it say "back" instead. Finally, my last and perhaps most serious complaint, the Mono kit. While every other alpha key in the set has their text corner aligned, the mono kit included centered legends. It's obvious that a lack of thought was involved in porting over this often used granite kit, and that it was added simply to be used along with the generic emblem/rune kit that is always included in granite-esque sets. I can understand wanting the two kits to be center aligned with one another to fit together, but it feels kinda half-assed that they're separate kits when they're pretty clearly made to complement each other. There is not a render of the mono kit with any of the other kits, and I am glad that I don't have to see that contrasting mishmash of alignment.
Overall, the look of the set is quite pleasing, and I may be coerced into buying some of it if the price is right, but I feel that it shines badly on the community when some of the half-thought out ideas in this set are meant to represent a finished product.

mtzgr

Jan 17, 2017

donutcattl;dr the set sucks

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MiTo

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MiTo

Jan 17, 2017

donutcatSometimes it can be hard to understand a design if you don't know where it's coming from. No arbitrary choices were made for this set, I can guarantee this. I really appreciate the input and feedback but you're looking at general things without taking into consideration the decisions behind it.
https://mitormk.wordpress.com/
> F-row upper case:
It's an AEK influence which I wanted to implement. Lower case f didn't look very good when immediately paired with numbers.
> Center/Top Left alignment:
Text is top left and icons are center, simple as that. The icons modifiers were designed specifically for the runic kit and this keyset is not supposed to be a mix and match between icons/text. My 2D mockups are mix and match for the sake of advertisement of the kits, but you can see that no 3D renders have icons in them. I created some "rules" that I didn't share, people were not supposed to mix icons/text like some of you are figuring out. It was a mistake from my part and bad advertisement by displaying icons/text mixed together on my mockups. You either go full text or you go runic + icons, unless you have a numpad - in which case you'll be forced to use some icons. Does that make sense?
BUT!
Here's the thing - We are still in the feedback phase and I believe we can turn things around.
There's only one way to bring our vision to reality - and it is by offering a very important kit that should have been included to begin with.
Update coming in the next minutes.

Makami

4237

Jan 17, 2017

mtzgrDisliked, that's no way what he said!

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donutcat

182

Jan 17, 2017

MiToYeah, I can definitely see the runes and the mono kits being meant to be together, just without being told that they were basically meant only to be used with one another there was no way to see that they were just there to be there. I'm personally not convinced on the uppercase F-row, but that's definitely something more up to opinion than absolute. And I still would like to see corner aligned legends for the numpad mods since they're stuck with the corner aligned alphas there.

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Vigrith

4081

Jan 17, 2017

donutcatIsn't that the whole point of the set though? Mix and match, figure out one or a few layouts/combinations you'd enjoy and buy the kits. "Meant to be together" just sounds silly, maybe someone wants to have Runes with regular number legends, maybe someone wants to run the normal kit with alphas text mods and mono number row. It's up to them, with all due respect your evaluation of what is "meant to be" is completely irrelevant asides when it comes to your own keyboard.
Feedback is extremely valuable and most of your post above was well composed and I do agree with parts of what was said, I just don't think you should encourage pigeonholing when this is meant to be a Canvas. I don't know why there'd be a need to be dealing in absolutes here.

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