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yanfali
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Jul 14, 2018
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I'm pretty annoyed. I ordered fairly early on and people are already flipping their sets on r/mm and mine hasn't even shipped. Good job MD. Next time ship in order. Not scalpers first.
Jul 14, 2018
areid
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Jul 14, 2018
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yanfaliWhat mechmarket are you looking at? There is a single set for trade. They said shipping would be in waves so just calm down.
Jul 14, 2018
BlueCrowned
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Jul 14, 2018
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yanfaliHow do you know the person selling it didn't order before you?
Jul 14, 2018
LevelSteam
Jul 14, 2018
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yanfaliI get being frustrated but it's not like Massdrop knows who's planning on flipping their sets and who isn't.
Also seems like shipping order is pretty arbitrary overall.
Jul 14, 2018
yanfali
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Jul 14, 2018
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LevelSteamIt does. Lottery would have been nice. Then you know which group you're going in.
Jul 14, 2018
yanfali
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Jul 14, 2018
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BlueCrownedI don't. Even after they ship that's another week of FedEx. Like I said annoyed.
Jul 14, 2018
yanfali
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Jul 14, 2018
Xaniphon
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Jul 15, 2018
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yanfaliHow is it scalping if there's essentially an unlimited amount that will be produced? Anyone who wants the set can order it, that's the point of a group buy...
Jul 15, 2018
yanfali
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Jul 15, 2018
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XaniphonSorry, don't follow? GB has been over for better part of a year. Maybe scalpers was the wrong word. Speculators? Though scalper does seem to be appropriate. From urban dictionary.
Scalper Someone who purchases large quantities of goods (usually tickets) early with the sole intention of re-selling them at a higher price at a later date (closer to the event).
Jul 15, 2018
BlueCrowned
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Jul 15, 2018
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XaniphonHow is it unlimited at all? The buy has ended. You can't get any more. That sounds pretty limited to me.
Jul 15, 2018
LevelSteam
Jul 15, 2018
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BlueCrownedI think they meant when the group buy was going on.
I mean, if I wanted to be a jerk I could have bought a bunch of the most popular sets during the sale period and then put the squeeze on people for them later, but that's not something I'd want to do.
Overall though there's no way for Massdrop to know who's buying kits to use or gift, and who's buying kits to resell later, so it seems sort of futile to expect them to prioritize shipping accordingly.
Jul 15, 2018
Metaldrake
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Jul 16, 2018
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yanfaliScalper isn't truly inappropriate, but I wouldn't put it in the same category. Flippers?
Scalpers are way more annoying because they take away from a resource (like concert tickets, with limited seats) but in this case if the flippers didn't buy sets then lower MOQs would be reached and the total number of sets would be even more limited.
Jul 16, 2018
Xaniphon
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Jul 16, 2018
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yanfaliWhen you say "scalper" I'm sure the majority of people would agree that this term applies to people who take/buy from a limited quantity of items, creating an artificial scarcity of them (usually this term applies for things like concert tickets, sports games etc.) I wouldn't use that term here because the potential quantity of these GMK sets is (virtually) unlimited. Anyone who wished to purchase a set 10(?) months ago could purchase a set.
Now of course this is 10 months ago, obviously the buy is closed and if a new person wished to purchase a set now they couldn't, this is the nature of custom made, high quality, professionally manufactured items, they can't just be made in small quantities, made to demand. I guess I just don't understand the problem people have with "speculators" buying sets to resell them.
I think it's quite a smart investment tbh and if I had enough spare cash I'd be doing it. These people inflate the buy numbers meaning we hit price drops quicker, the quantities are higher which incentivises GMK, SA or whoever to improve their production facilities and shows to them that these products are popular. Whilst they do inflate the prices (which is fair because they've invested thousands of dollars over almost a year), they do provide a way for people who really want this set but missed the buy a way to purchase these caps, if they really want them. If people don't like the price then they dont have to buy the caps, because at the end of the day they're purely cosmetic
Jul 16, 2018
yanfali
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Jul 16, 2018
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XaniphonFair. I think I'm more upset at the opaque staged shipping. This is the first time they've used this system in a GB I've been involved in. Before it was a couple of days after the arrival and it was shipping. Carbon which sold equally as well as this buy didn't have this problem. As always with MD communication is lacking. Instead it looks like it could be up to a 2 week shipping window with a week of transport. That's pretty terrible especially as the buy is already 2 months late. Anyway, thanks for your insight, I understand it benefits us overall and obviously big vendors do it all the time; oco and kbdfans with Nautilus.
Jul 16, 2018
Xaniphon
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Jul 16, 2018
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yanfaliBelieve me I'm not happy about the shipping either haha mine still hasn't shipped, and I'm from Australia so I can expect a long ass delivery time on top of these delays :P
This will be my first gmk set and I wanted to see how I liked the profile before deciding on whether to buy sa green screen or not since I quite like SA profile. Guess I'll just have to order that then and then sell it (I know...) if I like gmk that much more
Jul 16, 2018
yanfali
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XaniphonHopefully you should love GMK. It's a lovely profile. We're kind of spoiled for new profiles of late.
Jul 16, 2018
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