There Are Pandas, and Then There Are Pandas.
And this isn't either of them! The Pandas we're talking about here, are watches, not bears. And what got me thinking about them (again) was a link posted this morning by @cm.rook who pointed a few of us to the very attractive (and not terribly priced) Yema "Rallygraph" Panda which, in it's most traditional arrangement, looks like the one on the left, but can also be had in the version on the right: The model on the left is a true Panda, while the model on the right is called a reverse Panda. The reason for that distinction is clear--Panda bears, only come in the first arrangement. Now at this point, everyone should be thinking about the most well-know Panda, The Rolex Panda, which is actually a Daytona, and among Rolex Daytonas, the most famous of which is the Paul Newman Daytona, which was famous first, because it was Paul's, and second because it sold at auction for $17.8 million (US Dollars). The story of that auction is well-known so I'll only...
Nov 8, 2019
I can go to the gun shop and pick up a really nice, very well made knife that's also push button auto, for $45 more. Like I said, I'm not trying to offend anyone or the knife snobs, but I'm not really wowed by the simple design and minimalist everything. Knives are meant to be used, not admired like art.
Can someone explain to me why this is a big deal?
1) your English suck. I hope you're drunk and just having a hard time finding the buttons. If not, get with Big Bird and he'll teach you everything he knows.
2) This knife offers nothing new. Every flea market and carnival offers a Chinese clone of this knife for like $5.
3) Every modern art museum can be described the same way as this knife (clean, simple, basic, and boring). This also describes most items Massdrop decides to get in the market of.
4) Reading all of the descriptions and long winded comments in the discussion from those involved, make it sound like there was a huge disconnection between the two groups. I feel like the designer had a vision and he kept getting told no by some desk jockeys back in San Francisco. I am happy that it's a small shop getting a big job and a huge shot out. I love it when an item is made in America.
5) Everything in a carefully curated EDC has to be chosen wisely and most items serve multiple purposes. This knife has only one purpose and that's not enough to make the cut in my opinion (pun intended). I need something more. Hell at least add more grip to the handle.
6) I can't remember what else I had written in my original comment that accidently vanished, but whatever. Like I said, it's a nice knife and clearly it's selling just fine. I'm sure most of the people buying it will never use it, but I guess that's the deal with art though, it just gets admired.
2) I mean sure, yeah there might already be clones of this knife but you won't find it for $5 and that's like saying "why buy an american made ZT when a Chinese clone is like $5". You're missing the whole point here.
3) On the contrary modern art isn't only clean, simple, basic, and boring, but if you are referring to popular modern design trends then yes that's where things are going. Modern art is actually more expressive and I'm sure a Jackson Pollock painting doesn't match your description.
4) I mean here you're just making assumptions. Also do you mean "huge shout* out?" Also you say you love it when things are made in the USA but earlier you promote Chinese clones? That doesn't seem right does it?
5) Actually knives serve one purpose, and that is to cut something. This knife is clearly not a multi-tool. Textured G10 is pretty grippy so I'm not sure what do you mean by adding more grip. Do you want rubber handle scales? Grip tape? Literal sandpaper?
6) Again, I cannot stress how much this isn't an artsy collector piece, but if you want one, MD is dropping a Tashi Bharucha Prism Folding Knife (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tashi-bharucha-prism) in about 4 hours. This knife was designed to be a beater, not a $600 Spyderco designed to sit in a display case.
Since it's for EDC purpose, they designed it that way: -small(<3.5") curved (easier to sharpen) blade -hollow grind (if resharpened-> clean and consistent edge, since your blade thickness won't increase, due to hollow grind, therefore, better performance) -G10 handles -> resistant and all those other words^^ -sturdy folder: "strongest and safest locking mechanism there is" -Nitro V: "nitrogen-enriched steel with excellent edge retention, high hardness, and extreme corrosion resistance"
And on another comment you said sth like: 'I need more grip to the handle'...Dude, this shit ain't for bush-craft...it's a damn edc folder...and btw, idk if it's meant to cut rope like a machete... --"
I won't carry on, because I got more useful stuff to do then quote the damn knife description. If you take only the steel used, that should already be worth the price IMO. Look for knives this good at this price range, and let us know if you find sth useful.
If I was to use your nickname, I'd say: (crash)test it then...
- Modern art IS boring to me and that's my point. - I earned my nickname in Afghanistan, where tools are more than just pretty and serve multiple purposes. - Chinese knockoff clones are bad, you know this and knew this when I said it, but you still wanted to be coy and write otherwise... got it. My point is that I'm happy to support a made in America product, however since this is nothing new, Chinese clones beat it to the market like 20 years ago... but I'm sure you knew that already. - That handle looks like if it got hit with a few drops of water, then chances out it would be slippery. I don't care what the handle is made out of, I'm sure you don't want to drop your pretty art piece. - Seriously, which one of you guys personally worked on this product? Clearly you're that but hurt.
If you would rather have a Chinese clone, feel free, Ganzo actually makes some really good ones for the price!
How well do you write in a language that is secondary to your native one? My guess is not very well since you are struggling to clearly articulate your points in your primary language.
I am glad you served our country and I am extremely appreciative. I would really value your input on this knife because of your experience. But you need to at least organize your thoughts first...
I really ought to 'pay you no nevermind' , but I am also am appreciative of folks who have the guts to speak on these boards when English is their secondary language, and I do not want to see them discouraged.
1) I think it's boring. If you like it, that's fine.
2) You can buy the same boring design for $5 with a "made in China" stamp. No, that doesn't mean that I would ever do that since I prefer to buy a quality product, but my point is that it's mass produced and there's nothing that this knife offers that the $5 one doesn't. Do you honestly need more clarification?
3) There's a difference between dropping a letter when typing from your phone, and having your entire sentence a jumbled group of words that doesn't make sense. Did you mash your head on the keyboard and hope for the best with autocorrect?
Buy the knife, don't buy the knife, I really don't care. I guess in some places like California, maybe that's as good as it gets for your personal protection? Whatever floats your boat. Now have fun and sail away.
Also, with all that is going on with knives the work at Millit has really impressed me as people who care about quality making superior durable instruments. That is relevant to my interests. Most of their work is priced way out of my range so when I saw a Millit knife for just over a hundred dollars that just happens to be exactly what I wanted anyway it was really just a matter of getting the money together.